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Posted: 2/20/2015 9:45:15 AM EDT
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Good I hope the succeed. Fuck you Andy boy.
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Posted: 2/20/2015 10:26:59 AM EDT
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Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era?
I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 10:36:37 AM EDT
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They might have a chance. Downstate doesn't want the burden, the Congress is controlled by the Republicans that don't like NY and PA would love additional revenue from gas production. It's a win-win.
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Posted: 2/20/2015 10:58:19 AM EDT
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Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era? I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. Since the frontier era as in late 1700s? I know that county and town lines were still in flux in the early 19th century in my county I doubt that NYS has lost any towns to another state at anytime in the last 200 years |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:17:52 AM EDT
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Since the frontier era as in late 1700s? I know that county and town lines were still in flux in the early 19th century in my county I doubt that NYS has lost any towns to another state at anytime in the last 200 years Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era? I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. Since the frontier era as in late 1700s? I know that county and town lines were still in flux in the early 19th century in my county I doubt that NYS has lost any towns to another state at anytime in the last 200 years I'd be interested to know what the state could actually do? If PA was somehow willing to accept the town's, what is the state going to do? Withhold state funding for schools? I'm guessing that this would have to go all the way up the chain where it would be shot down in the USSC where they would come up with some bogus reasoning all the while knowing that the precedent it would set would absolutely destroy the democratic base in red states when the blue state conservatives join a purple states voting populous. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:38:04 AM EDT
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They might have a chance. Downstate doesn't want the burden, the Congress is controlled by the Republicans that don't like NY and PA would love additional revenue from gas production. It's a win-win. Only if none of NYCs drinking water comes from those towns. If any of their water comes through that area, expect the state to fight it tooth and nail, since we all know Cuomo and the Assembly don't give a crap about upstate, and the Senate barely pretends to. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:44:50 AM EDT
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But wouldn't something like this need to be approved by congress or something? Changing the make-up / shape of a state?
I honestly have no idea...but it sounds impossible. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:57:00 AM EDT
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How can we facilitate it? I'm willing to donate, demonstrate, make calls, write letters, whatever it takes.
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:58:26 AM EDT
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Well if nothing else that would put the PA border that much closer to many of you for border hopping ammo shopping
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Posted: 2/20/2015 12:49:47 PM EDT
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Technically Town Line, NY (a teeny town between Lancaster and Alden) seceded from the Union during the Civil War, and was not technically re-admitted until 1945 I think....
But good on 'em, hope they succeed in seceding! |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:30:54 PM EDT
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Technically Town Line, NY (a teeny town between Lancaster and Alden) seceded from the Union during the Civil War, and was not technically re-admitted until 1945 I think.... But good on 'em, hope they succeed in seceding! Yes.........that is fact.........why they are called "The last of the rebels"........the entire town lancaster came within a few votes of seceding as well |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:31:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Hopefully this will catch on
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Posted: 2/20/2015 5:05:50 PM EDT
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I hope my family property in Sullivan makes it into Pa. My whole view of the future would change.
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Posted: 2/20/2015 5:57:07 PM EDT
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Hopefully this will catch on I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 6:15:16 PM EDT
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I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully this will catch on I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. I will contact them on Monday to see what can be done to help. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 6:53:13 PM EDT
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I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully this will catch on I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. Yep |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 7:17:18 PM EDT
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I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully this will catch on I would love to see a true concerted effort for all of upstate to secede. FNYC. +1.......imagine the ability to start from scratch and model our state after one like South Carolina, or Montana, or Wyoming.......I can almost taste it |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 8:14:01 PM EDT
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New reporter: "Governor Cuomo, what have you to say about the Southern Tier Towns trying to secede from NYS?"
Cuomo: "They're not trying to secede, why would anyone want to leave this glorious State?" NR: "What about hydro-fracking?" Cuomo: Frack-schmack, nobody's getting drilling permits without the proper tributes er, permits, besides it'll contaminate the water." |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:08:59 AM EDT
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Dear god, please take Cortland County too...I'll pay taxes, I promise.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 7:03:48 AM EDT
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What is the legal process for making NYC a district like DC? I've always thought that made the most sense since it wouldn't change the national flag. No new state lines need to be drawn or commemorative quarters minted lol. I'd be willing to bet NYC residents would probably be for it to for their own reasons.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 7:21:01 AM EDT
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What is the legal process for making NYC a district like DC? I've always thought that made the most sense since it wouldn't change the national flag. No new state lines need to be drawn or commemorative quarters minted lol. I'd be willing to bet NYC residents would probably be for it to for their own reasons. I think NYC residents would think of that as a downgrade in their status. They see themselves as the heart of the state and Upstate as a bunch of hicks who barely deserve to be called NYers |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 9:43:18 AM EDT
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It's ironic the mentality of the Statist, the Liberals of NYC who think they are so much smarter, so much more elite, and any Laws or conditions they impose for the betterment of society must revolve around themselves as they have a denser population, but divorce us they will not. You see to substantiate your position of superiority you must have someone to reflect it against. Those in control KNOW where their food, water, and money comes from, know where the Prisons for their sub-standard human excrement must be sent, know where the Landfills are or rather are not.
As impossible as it seemed in the Movies, I'd gladly lay the first brick in the wall separating that shit-hold from the rest of the World. (Sorry to our brethren stuck down there, but you know how to survive and escape before it's sealed off) |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:10:10 AM EDT
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Is it Mohawk time yet?
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:25:06 AM EDT
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Is it Mohawk time yet? "Me last of Mohecans" "Me smell Mohecan burning" "Wait, if me last of Mehecans.....I must be on FIRE!" 
Old Loony-Toons Cartoon from a very long time ago....Episode of Bugs Bunny I think. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:30:04 PM EDT
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I hope my family property in Sullivan makes it into Pa. My whole view of the future would change. Same here, but Delaware County, if that was in PA.  
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:47:21 PM EDT
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Delaware County can't go - without SUNY there would be zero employment
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:12:26 PM EDT
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There was another split-state proposal that some group put out. New Amsterdam would become an autonomy within NYS and would have its own laws and Constitution. In return, NYS would collect 3% of taxes and revenues.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:34:20 PM EDT
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Delaware County can't go - without SUNY there would be zero employment A few of these would bring some jobs. 
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Posted: 2/21/2015 2:29:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was another split-state proposal that some group put out. New Amsterdam would become an autonomy within NYS and would have its own laws and Constitution. In return, NYS would collect 3% of taxes and revenues. at this point.. whimpering around like a beat dog, id pay more tax if it meant unilateral freedom where i currently live hands down no question... id even name my new SBR "Tax man" |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:10:39 PM EDT
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The question is, how badly do people want it? This movement will not gain momentum until someone takes a stand. Possibly Mohawk style - block the roads and bridges, not allow anyone in. It has to be supported by the local officials and sheriffs. This has to be on the news 24 hrs per day. Otherwise, nobody will do anything.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:31:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Good. The more local opposition to the criminal triumvirate ruling this state, the better.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:58:47 PM EDT
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The question is, how badly do people want it? This movement will not gain momentum until someone takes a stand. Possibly Mohawk style - block the roads and bridges, not allow anyone in. It has to be supported by the local officials and sheriffs. This has to be on the news 24 hrs per day. Otherwise, nobody will do anything. What is this a reference to? |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:14:07 PM EDT
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Well fuck, if that's what a fracking well looks like, just let me put some antennas on it!
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:26:54 PM EDT
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Currently vacationing in Johnson City, NY. I can practically smell the Mason-Dixon Line from here!
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:53:10 PM EDT
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Currently vacationing in Johnson City, NY. I can practically smell the Mason-Dixon Line from here! You're bad at vacation. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 6:56:40 PM EDT
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Well fuck, if that's what a fracking well looks like, just let me put some antennas on it! That's just while they're drilling. During production it only something like this. 
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Posted: 2/21/2015 7:06:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's just while they're drilling. During production it only something like this. http://cleantechnica.com/files/2014/07/Completed-natural-gas-wellhead-installation.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well fuck, if that's what a fracking well looks like, just let me put some antennas on it! That's just while they're drilling. During production it only something like this. http://cleantechnica.com/files/2014/07/Completed-natural-gas-wellhead-installation.png |
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Posted: 2/22/2015 4:05:20 AM EDT
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You're bad at vacation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Currently vacationing in Johnson City, NY. I can practically smell the Mason-Dixon Line from here! You're bad at vacation. Mebbe so. But me and five other swim dads just got back from a drunken festivity called "rock n bowl". Eat your heart out you ramen noodle eatin, dog snuggling muthatrucker! 
Wow, I don't usually post hammered. Bowling sure was a hoot though! |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 11:20:00 PM EDT
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Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era? I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. Vermont was part of New York at one time |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 8:19:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vermont was part of New York at one time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era? I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. Vermont was part of New York at one time |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:28:10 PM EDT
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Dear god, please take Cortland County too...I'll pay taxes, I promise. |
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Posted: 3/2/2015 4:34:14 PM EDT
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Vermont was part of New York at one time Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has something like this ever happened since, like, the frontier era? I doubt it...As much as I'd like to see it happen, I think we all know it won't. FUAC. Vermont was part of New York at one time I think there is a better chance of a green light for fracking AND the repeal of the Unsafe act before this attempt to secede happens. In the last line of the article below it says that both NY and PA have to agree along with a rubber stamp from the feds... http://nypost.com/2015/03/02/upstate-towns-threatening-to-secede-from-new-york/ |
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