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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:59:07 PM EDT
I thought Rob closing in Spanish was GREAT!
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:00:32 PM EDT
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Not one question about the SAFE ACT. Fucking bullshit. Libertarian candidate was a Cuomo lackey. Good debate but really, Cuomo was not called out on the SAFE ACT. Something smells here!
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:03:51 PM EDT
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Cuomo brought his usual decks of cards. Race, women's rights, abortion, etc..
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:05:12 PM EDT
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Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.
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Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.
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Not one question about the SAFE ACT. Fucking bullshit. Libertarian candidate was a Cuomo lackey. Good debate but really, Cuomo was not called out on the SAFE ACT. Something smells here!


Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.


No, Cuomo already has the libtards vote. I think the only way Cuomo was going to do a debate with Astorino is if all agreed that there would be no SAFE act questions during the debate. Just shows me that Cuomo is pissing his panties worried about the SAFE act for this election.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:11:13 PM EDT
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wth does that green party guy think the $15 per hour minimum wage is going to come from? thought Astorino did pretty good, at least he riled up andy boy some. lol
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:11:50 PM EDT
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No, Cuomo already has the libtards vote. I think the only way Cuomo was going to do a debate with Astorino is if all agreed that there would be no SAFE act questions during the debate. Just shows me that Cuomo is pissing his panties worried about the SAFE act for this election.
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Not one question about the SAFE ACT. Fucking bullshit. Libertarian candidate was a Cuomo lackey. Good debate but really, Cuomo was not called out on the SAFE ACT. Something smells here!


Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.


No, Cuomo already has the libtards vote. I think the only way Cuomo was going to do a debate with Astorino is if all agreed that there would be no SAFE act questions during the debate. Just shows me that Cuomo is pissing his panties worried about the SAFE act for this election.



I'd like to think you are right, however I heard a stat on the radio that not too many New Yorkers care about the SAFE Act.  I hope you're right.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:11:55 PM EDT
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They did ask about extreme conservatives and gun control but everyone avoided gun control.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:14:13 PM EDT
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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



FUAC
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No, they asked about Cuomo's statement about how these types of people were not welcome in NY. I did notice that the Libertarian lackey mentioned SAFE act II in his final statement. SAFE Act is a HUGE issue in NY-I am sure there was an agreement prior to the debate not to bring it up. Astorino has been hounding Cuomo for a while for a debate so this may have been the only way. It's curious!
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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



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I think he did,

Check here Buffalo News

Great job Buffalo News!

Bill
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:18:05 PM EDT
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We all know what a lying cock sucker Cumhole is,
but to claim that our state taxes are LOW & that there are more jobs in NY than ever before is really stretching it, even for a commie prick like Cumhole!
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:20:46 PM EDT
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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



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Exactly. He is a Cuomo shill trying to steal votes from Astorino.

We saw this work in VA with the "libertarian" candidate.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:21:01 PM EDT
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No, they asked about Cuomo's statement about how these types of people were not welcome in NY. I did notice that the Libertarian lackey mentioned SAFE act II in his final statement. SAFE Act is a HUGE issue in NY-I am sure there was an agreement prior to the debate not to bring it up. Astorino has been hounding Cuomo for a while for a debate so this may have been the only way. It's curious!
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No, they asked about Cuomo's statement about how these types of people were not welcome in NY. I did notice that the Libertarian lackey mentioned SAFE act II in his final statement. SAFE Act is a HUGE issue in NY-I am sure there was an agreement prior to the debate not to bring it up. Astorino has been hounding Cuomo for a while for a debate so this may have been the only way. It's curious!




She very specifically asked that if they believe that people with anti gun control beliefs belong in NY.

No one addressed this.
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Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.
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Not one question about the SAFE ACT. Fucking bullshit. Libertarian candidate was a Cuomo lackey. Good debate but really, Cuomo was not called out on the SAFE ACT. Something smells here!


Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.


Yes. Astorino mentioned it, but to dwell on it will only scare long islanders and make us feel good while doing more harm than good.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:22:23 PM EDT
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Exactly. He is a Cuomo shill trying to steal votes from Astorino.

We saw this work in VA with the "libertarian" candidate.
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I agree with this, but he did say if you dont like SAFE ACT vote for him.



FUAC


Exactly. He is a Cuomo shill trying to steal votes from Astorino.

We saw this work in VA with the "libertarian" candidate.


He even said "THANKS" to Cumholio for inviting him to the debate!!! LACKEY
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He even said "THANKS" to Cumholio for inviting him to the debate!!! LACKEY
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I consider myself to be somewhat libertarian in my beliefs. That guy was a terrible representation of the libertarian platform. He spent half his time agreeing with Cuomo.

"If you want to stop SAFE act part II, vote libertarian!"

Really? How will that stop it, exactly?
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:33:22 PM EDT
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The green party and Libertarian were clearly there to distract people from Astorino and get him less camera time. I have to say, Rob looked good. There was one question regarding guns coupled with the "extreme conservative" question, though Cuomo deflected it.
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I consider myself to be somewhat libertarian in my beliefs. That guy was a terrible representation of the libertarian platform. He spent half his time agreeing with Cuomo.

"If you want to stop SAFE act part II, vote libertarian!"

Really? How will that stop it, exactly?
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He even said "THANKS" to Cumholio for inviting him to the debate!!! LACKEY


I consider myself to be somewhat libertarian in my beliefs. That guy was a terrible representation of the libertarian platform. He spent half his time agreeing with Cuomo.

"If you want to stop SAFE act part II, vote libertarian!"

Really? How will that stop it, exactly?


Not to mention the guy is virtually unknown. Let's hope Hawkins gets the democrat youth vote on our campuses for his pro weed philosophy.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 9:42:01 PM EDT
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No softball questions tonight!  Cuomo continues to talk down to people like a tyrant.  Rob was very solid and on-point.  The spanish closing was awesome!

Gee, wonder if the polls move at all?  Oh, and who has a link to Preet's conference today?  That was the first I had heard of it.
Link Posted: 10/22/2014 11:29:40 PM EDT
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SAFE ACT is not a huge issue in NY. If you're a gun owner, you're a minority.
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No, Cuomo already has the libtards vote. I think the only way Cuomo was going to do a debate with Astorino is if all agreed that there would be no SAFE act questions during the debate. Just shows me that Cuomo is pissing his panties worried about the SAFE act for this election.
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Not one question about the SAFE ACT. Fucking bullshit. Libertarian candidate was a Cuomo lackey. Good debate but really, Cuomo was not called out on the SAFE ACT. Something smells here!


Rob already has the anti-SAFE vote.  Talking about it will just rile up the downstate anti-NRA libtards and play into Cuomo's "ultra conservative" TV ads.


No, Cuomo already has the libtards vote. I think the only way Cuomo was going to do a debate with Astorino is if all agreed that there would be no SAFE act questions during the debate. Just shows me that Cuomo is pissing his panties worried about the SAFE act for this election.

Actually, he doesn't.  40% of Democrats voted AGAINST Cuomo in the primary.  And the Green Party (socialist) candidate is polling with at least 9% of the vote, which is the highest in NY history.  There are a lot of liberals dissatisfied with Cuomo, and them voting for third party or staying home actually helps Astorino.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 1:22:31 AM EDT
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Listening to Cuomo makes me sick.

Howie Hawkins is a goof.

I appreciate certain Libertarian views, or values, but that guy does not inspire me.

Rob Astorino does inspire me.  His message comes across clear, and he sounds genuine.  I can't wait to vote for him.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 4:53:17 AM EDT
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I didn't see this thread before. Here is my response to the other debate thread:

Astorino ripped through the tyrant like wet tissue. I loved the Spanish at the end and asking him to swear he wasn't subpoenaed. Rob was clearly the most well spoken person there. Cuomo looked like the babbling crony idiot he is. Hawkins seemed like an honest man who is passionate about his stances which I can respect. Although I didn't agree with most things he had to say, I didn't hate hearing him out. Plus his bashing of Cuomo was excellent.

And then there is McDermott...this know nothing ass kisser is an embarrassment to libertarians everywhere. It literally makes me hesitant to call myself one until his name is forgotten. His entire presence was a joke. He only took Cuomo's cock out of his mouth to say he agreed with him or that he didn't know what the fuck was going on. He pissed me off more than listening to Cuomo which is really saying something. I wouldn't be surprised if he voted for Cuomo instead of himself on election day. Oh and nothing says desperate like literally begging for votes at the end. "Vote libertarian this one time. What do you have to lose!?" x12... REALLY!? A whole fucking lot should the asshole he shares a doubled-sided dildo with get re-elected. Simple fuck.

ETA: Screw that guy and his stupid Bills stadium question.  We get a single one hour long debate split between four candidates and the only thing on this asshat's mind is who will build a new stadium to fit his fat ass in.  Unbelievable.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:01:41 AM EDT
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Astorino should reconsider his position on weed.

Everyone does it. This "drugs are bad mkay" position is silly. Fuck fracking, legalize regulate and tax marijuana and hemp in NY and it would create jobs and tax revenue while shutting down the street gang monopoly.

Disclaimer - I don't smoke weed.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:03:03 AM EDT
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Andy is a total fuck up I poured $1 billion into the City of Buffalo. You poured $1 Billion ? who the fuck do you think you are raiding various public authorities money to buy votes you spineless piece of garbage. What an arrogant sack of shit . Did you see that face of guilt on Andy? Hands down Rob kicked the shit out of Andy especially with the HUD Housing. The other two candidates are a non-issues other then siphoning of votes from Rob. As far as the Unsafe Act, in away I'm glad it didn't come up. It would have only remind the douches people to vote for the Nazi bastard. FUAC

The guy with the Buffalo Bills question what a fucking idiot.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:47:01 AM EDT
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Overall,  I was impressed by Rob.  He touched on Unsafe act in his opening statement, but no questions about it and I understand, as others stated, Unsafe questions were not needed.

FUAC on the other hand refused to answer a few questions, trying to spin them off onto Rob.  
How can he say "The state has the lowest taxes in 50 years."  What kind of bullshit is that?  Does that mean I can pay my real estate taxes like the year my house was built and attach a note to the check "As per Andy Boy's opening statement."?  

Howie had his notes on his right hand side he kept referring to, was useless as tits on a bull.  I think Howie may forget who is in the booth to vote for.  

McDermott?  Andy's bitch? Yeah!  I wouldn't have been here if not for Andyboy asking for me to show!  How many calls did Andy boy make to the other two?  Yeah, he will take votes from Rob, but he may take some from Andyboy also with his Unsafe act II comments.

I am currently watching it question by question.  Thanks to Buffalo News

Bill
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:55:50 AM EDT
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Overall,  I was impressed by Rob.  He touched on Unsafe act in his opening statement, but no questions about it and I understand, as others stated, Unsafe questions were not needed.

FUAC on the other hand refused to answer a few questions, trying to spin them off onto Rob.  
How can he say "The state has the lowest taxes since 1953."  What kind of bullshit is that?  My house was built in 1953, does that mean I can pay my real estate taxes like the year my house was built and attach a note to the check "As per Andy Boy's opening statement."?  

Howie had his notes on his right hand side he kept referring to, was useless as tits on a bull.  I think Howie may forget who is in the booth to vote for.  

McDermott?  Andy's bitch? Yeah!  I wouldn't have been here if not for Andyboy asking for me to show!  How many calls did Andy boy make to the other two?  Yeah, he will take votes from Rob, but he may take some from Andyboy also with his Unsafe act II comments.  At least he spoke partially negatively on the "Fuck up New York" campaign.

I am currently watching it question by question.  Thanks to Buffalo News

Bill
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 9:45:30 AM EDT
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I think Rob did good too, I missed about the first 10 minutes, and watching the rest, SAFE never really came up, I figured they covered it first, but I guess not. I guess I understand the strategy of staying away from it...if you know what SAFE is, and oppose it, you are going to vote for Astorino in any case...why scare the fucking sheeple shitbags....

That Howie guy, what an asshole he is....mush mouthed socialist commie turd. He was a Marine??? Some DI should find him and smoke his ass until it sucks buttermilk. How does he figure he could raise the minimum wage to $15/hr and not decimate the work force, does the idiot think employers can just make more money out fo thin air to pay workers?? The only good thing about that turd is he will suck votes from Andy, I guess he is polling higher than any other Green Party guy, so that is good, you know he is siphoning off the hard left....

The Macdermot guy, the Libertarian....where did they did this guy up from? Unless he is a total Dem shill plant....which is highly possible. I mean, really, you can't find someone a little more on the ball? He is why the Libertarian party goes nowhere....

I thought the Spanish at the end was good...that twinkle toed cocksucker sure tried pulling the race card enough on Rob....I think Rob should have ben more forceful on his rebuttals about that.

I didn't care for the way none of them answered the questions asked, or gave a short, perfunctory answer, then went off on another topic. But politicians always do that, but never cared for it.

I think Cumhole sounded like an ignorant bully, and a liar...but I am biased....
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Astorino should reconsider his position on weed.

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Does anyone one know how many NY gun owners there are vs registered Dems? I could look it up I know but I'm swamped at work today so my ARF time will be minimal.
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Astorino should reconsider his position on weed.

Everyone does it. This "drugs are bad mkay" position is silly. Fuck fracking, legalize regulate and tax marijuana and hemp in NY and it would create jobs and tax revenue while shutting down the street gang monopoly.

Disclaimer - I don't smoke weed.








You must be referring to the cigar guts as probable cause conversation?

If you want some of my pee to test my disclaimer I'll save you a jar.


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If you are asking if every gun owner voted for Astorino would he win in a landslide?

The answer is yes. That won't happen sadly.
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~6 million (legal) gun owners in NY.  
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 11:10:52 AM EDT
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I felt the entire thing wreaked of softball... but then again this isn't a presidential debate so it wasn't like there were 30 million people tuning in.
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why isnt Astorino hammering on the safe act?  ive yet to see 1 commercial about it....
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My guess is risk management. Like I said, if you know what the SAFE Act is, and you hate it, you are going to vote for Astorino. The sad fact is NY is populated by a huge amount of panty waste pieces of excrement who hate guns, and will not vote for a "gun nut". So if you avoiud the question, you will not raise the attention of the morons, and if he can get the morons to vote for him over Common Core, lower taxes, whatever, and not scare them away by them thinking he wants to arm toddlers, its more votes for him.

Unfortunate, but I think this is what it is...
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I really think the SAFE Act isn't going away unless the SCUSA rules on it...
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Why? Do you still need to be swayed to vote for him?

The lines are pretty well defined on unSAFE.

He has to try and get votes of people who care about things other than guns.
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Just need to be a louder minority.



Gay lesbian transgender baby seals are a smaller minority, but they're fucking loud and annoying and get their way.



 
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Is there anywhere that has the debate up, for those of us who missed it?
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~6 million (legal) gun owners in NY.  

Don't forget about the "unconvicted felon" group.  



 
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I find it odd that we have over 6 mil gun owners and less the 3 mil registered R's.
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In that case we need to be pushing the Atty General race as much as the governor. Schneiderman is running too, if we can get a pro-gun Atty Gen who refuses to defend or even joins the suit against the UNsafe, that's really our best bet.
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Here's a little secret: At least half of the gun owners who are registered are probably Democrats with a smaller percentage of Independents or blanks. And at least half of the registered Republicans do not own guns.
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https://www.nrapvf.org/VoteAstorino
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NRA sent Astorino 5g
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You must be referring to the cigar guts as probable cause conversation?

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Astorino should reconsider his position on weed.

Everyone does it. This "drugs are bad mkay" position is silly. Fuck fracking, legalize regulate and tax marijuana and hemp in NY and it would create jobs and tax revenue while shutting down the street gang monopoly.

Disclaimer - I don't smoke weed.








You must be referring to the cigar guts as probable cause conversation?

If you want some of my pee to test my disclaimer I'll save you a jar.




I'm all set.

http://www.leap.cc
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I'm all set.

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Astorino should reconsider his position on weed.

Everyone does it. This "drugs are bad mkay" position is silly. Fuck fracking, legalize regulate and tax marijuana and hemp in NY and it would create jobs and tax revenue while shutting down the street gang monopoly.

Disclaimer - I don't smoke weed.








You must be referring to the cigar guts as probable cause conversation?

If you want some of my pee to test my disclaimer I'll save you a jar.




I'm all set.

http://www.leap.cc


Every cop against prohibition got that way because they are sick of hearing hippies talk about legalization.
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5 grand But they spend 2 million against a guy who isn't holding or even running for office.

I live in my moms basement and donated over a hundred so far.
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