Article - Facebook Password for Permit


The government is not supposed to search your property or effects without having probable cause.

So making the exercise of the Second Amendment depend on waiving the protections of the Fourth Amendment is an illegal maneuver.

The Watervliet, N.Y., Police Department has decided to ignore and violate the U.S. Constitution.

The reason we know about this, thanks to Inforwars.com, is because the police department sent an applicant a form that requested his Facebook username and password. Naturally, once he got over the shock, he asked about this request. The reply is horrible: The police said they didn’t mean to send that request because they use it for the personal interview later in the process. Thanks to misplaced paperwork the proof of what they were doing has been revealed.

“It is… a common practice to view social media as a means to identify and determine character of a pistol permit applicant, in addition to other investigatory methods,” the department’s spokesperson told the applicant. “Typically all we ask is that an applicant access their account during an interview.”

But if the police dept. gets the applicant’s login credentials as requested on the form, and the applicant does not change his password afterwards, the police and the court reviewing the application can theoretically access his Facebook account as much as they want.

“It is what it is,” the Chief of Police, Ron Boisvert, told gun rights advocate Robert Farago after Farago told him the request was unconstitutional.

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“…If you decline – such information is no doubt handed up to the judge deciding yes or no on your application,” reported nyfirearms.com. “The question remains – How many people actually gave into this blatant violation of their rights when applying for a pistol permit?”

In addition to being unconstitutional (since no one seems to care), this demand is illegal for Facebook users. The terms of service forbid giving other people your password.

I guess I should not be shocked and surprised that so-called “law enforcement” (which seems to be the term we use for systematic violation of the law) would spit on the constitution and blackmail people who want to exercise their right to bear arms, demanding they pay the price by giving them access to private data and communications. After all, the head of the FBI is treating Apple like a criminal conspirator for merely offering privacy to iPhone buyers

The idea seems to be that “law enforcement” should have open access to however much of our data that they want. This is the idea at the national level and we find it in local police departments. The Feds have even claimed the right to steal a person’s identity on Facebook.

Here is my advice:

   Consider not having a Facebook account, or
   Practice looking innocent and naive as you say, “Facebook? What’s that?”


Read more at http://politicaloutcast.com/2014/10/gun-permit-unless-give-facebook-password/#m6bU7gHUZkJwTbFD.99

What do they do for those of us with no presence on Facebook?

Facebook Password:  "ishotthesheriff"

No shit.  Never had a Facebook account.  Never will.  

I like to think of it more as a "manifesto"...

And somehow asking for ID to vote is against the law.

But if you want to practice your constitutional right to carry a firearm you better have ID, references, finger prints, multiple background checks and now a facebook account?  

I just don't get it.

tell them no and that giving it or asking for it are violations of facebook's terms
then report them to facebook and have their own page removed for violating the terms of usage

LOL Best answer so far.

 


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Is this for real? I can't help but think someone is going to get pee pee slapped over this...

Soon enough they will require your ARFCOM and NY Firearms id's and passwords too.

No account for me either, should I provide my bank log-in and password?





Let's make this part of ARFCOM Terms of Service to prevent the idea below!



Bill

Didn't some employer get in dutch for this a year or so ago? Courts ruled you couldn't force somebody to hand over the log in info because it violated the TOS.

Yes but that is a private business not the gubment which is free to do whatever it wants and damn the constitution.  The response of the Watervliet Police is priceless.



 

Single space typeset

Their next step will be to demand that you bring in your laptop or tablet so they can check your favorites and browsing history
The permit system needs to be updated

Revamped. Changed.

This is why 'may issue' is constitutional wrong.  

Lets fucking sue

Eliminated.

I'm now taking donations to send me to law school for Constitutional law.

Scrapped.

That's not going to happen. However, they should go9 to a shall issue, they most likely should eliminate the useless character references, the restrictive overstamps, etc

I think all listed options are equally likely.

FUCK Watervliet, and it's Police!