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Posted: 8/18/2014 2:53:14 PM EDT
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Ares Defense announced the exciting new SCR — the Sport Configurable Rifle, a “featureless” rifle that’s part AR-15 and part traditional hunting rifle — earlier this year to a welcoming audience. This gun is legal to own in all 50 states and is now shipping to dealers. Just the same the rifles are priced to move with an MSRP of just $865, meaning real-world prices are likely to be $700 or less, at least once the excitement dies down. With products like these, it’s not uncommon for demand to keep prices a little higher around launch. View Quote |
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I need 1 or 3 of these.
Maybe getting one and going to the range will get me out of my gun funk. |
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For those of you who think this is dumb...this is a big FU to Cuomo and the gun grabbers.
This IS an AR-15 to the gun grabbers...and it IS legal and unSAFE act approved. If they try to ban this...the will have to ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags...which is essentially the same as banning ALL modern handguns...which WILL go too far (as if the unSAFE act didn't already). This is the modern M1 Carbine... |
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I hope they are serious about production. For as cheap as they say I'll take 3 ASAP! Lets see how they try to ban these next year.
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SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. |
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SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that noise. Why's that? SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. Gotcha. To each their own. I am more about function. While I enjoy shooting, I don't see my firearms as toys, but as tools. A "evil" looking AR with a fixed mag is more or less an expensive single use rifle in a real use situation. Like DaveMP said, it's a modern M1 carbine. |
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Here's why I see this as a valuable gun to have in your arsenal (er... I mean, "collection.")
This is a gun that, with 10 round mags, you can enjoy at the range without worry, can confront the "bump in the night" without fear of prosecution if something goes bad, and can keep sighted in for ready at a moment's notice for who-knows-what (ferguson riots situation?) Because the operation is the same as a proper AR-15, you can retain your muscle memory on how to run an AR. (You know, the one at the bottom of the lake near your house that you can go get if you need to). Also, if shit really goes down (a WOROL situation), god-willing a few loaded 30 round mags that you "forgot you had underneath your sofa cushion when you attempted to comply with the safe act by shipping all your magazines to your in-laws in Georgia for safe keeping" will fit and feed flawlessly into this weapon. I'm definately in for one. |
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SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that noise. Why's that? SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). |
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I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that noise. Why's that? SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). Excellent summation. Now I'd like to see someone make a more angled rifle stock for it ala the Magpul SGA |
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A new stock will just need to take into consideration the angled action / bolt buffer tube. But yeah. Would be great.
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I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that noise. Why's that? SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). CA does a fine job banning semi handguns... pick your favorite model and check if it's on CA's approved list. Hope it has a magazine disconnect, because that's mandatory. Microstamping requirements will effectively shut off all new handgun sales. |
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So glocks are not allowed in CA? They don't have a mag disconnect.
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CA does a fine job banning semi handguns... pick your favorite model and check if it's on CA's approved list. Hope it has a magazine disconnect, because that's mandatory. Microstamping requirements will effectively shut off all new handgun sales. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that noise. Why's that? SAFE was always about looks, not function. If you're going to blow money on a compliant AR, build an evil-as-fuck bolt action or fixed mag rifle. A Mini14/Browning BAR looking gun isn't going to make libtards pee their pants or JBT's out themselves. I think you have it backwards. The gun grabbers have always wanted to ban all SEMI autos...they knew they couldn't, so they just banned as many features common on semi autos as possible...hoping it would ban as many defensive guns as possible. But if we remove all the evil ergonomic features from our evil semi autos, or create semi autos that don't NEED those features (like how the SCR doesn't NEED a pistol grip)...it spits right in the face of the gun grabbers and the unSAFE act. Now we will have a class of functional semi auto defensive guns that they CAN'T ban unless they outright ban ALL semi autos with detachable mags (essentially the same as all modern handguns). Which will NEVER happen. Mark my words. Never. All they've been able to get away with are stupid feature bans...which yes are very unconstitutional and very inconvenient...but we CAN work around them...and we WILL prevail...ingenuity always does. These guns also prove that banning features and parts is arbitrary and capricious (aka unconstitutional). CA does a fine job banning semi handguns... pick your favorite model and check if it's on CA's approved list. Hope it has a magazine disconnect, because that's mandatory. Microstamping requirements will effectively shut off all new handgun sales. Lets not forget, in this shitty state you also need to jump through hoops to buy a handgun. I personally wont be wasting anymore money on shit to make this state happy. I lost thousands of dollars in pre ban mags playing by their rules for them to just change the rules. Make no mistake semi autos are next, evil features or not. |
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Wow, this is nice. I am torn though, I know this will accept any upper but the Troy PAR is a nice looking weapon too. Very torn. I wonder if they will sell just the lower to this. It migjt be a nice thing to just be able to buy just a lower. NY Sucks, I can't wait to Move to Indiana.
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Wow, this is nice. I am torn though, I know this will accept any upper but the Troy PAR is a nice looking weapon too. Very torn. I wonder if they will sell just the lower to this. It migjt be a nice thing to just be able to buy just a lower. NY Sucks, I can't wait to Move to Indiana. View Quote Pump action vs. semi-auto? There is a clear winner there. |
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Here's why I see this as a valuable gun to have in your arsenal (er... I mean, "collection.") This is a gun that, with 10 round mags, you can enjoy at the range without worry, can confront the "bump in the night" without fear of prosecution if something goes bad, and can keep sighted in for ready at a moment's notice for who-knows-what (ferguson riots situation?) Because the operation is the same as a proper AR-15, you can retain your muscle memory on how to run an AR. (You know, the one at the bottom of the lake near your house that you can go get if you need to). Also, if shit really goes down (a WOROL situation), god-willing a few loaded 30 round mags that you "forgot you had underneath your sofa cushion when you attempted to comply with the safe act by shipping all your magazines to your in-laws in Georgia for safe keeping" will fit and feed flawlessly into this weapon. I'm definately in for one. View Quote This. |
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Pump action vs. semi-auto? There is a clear winner there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow, this is nice. I am torn though, I know this will accept any upper but the Troy PAR is a nice looking weapon too. Very torn. I wonder if they will sell just the lower to this. It migjt be a nice thing to just be able to buy just a lower. NY Sucks, I can't wait to Move to Indiana. Pump action vs. semi-auto? There is a clear winner there. As an addition to semi auto the pump may be a good backup option. |
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Who carries these? View Quote I read something the other day that said they were filling existing pre-orders first, I assume via their authorized distributors. |
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I hope they crank out rifles with good QC, because they will have a lock on NY, CA, and to some extent CT
This is what the Mini-14 should be. |
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Coliseum Gun Traders on Long Island had 10 of them yesterday with all three available stocks. I think all but one were sold by mid-day today. They have another 10 on the way for next week. Not sure if they will have more coming but I'm guessing the next batch is going to sell out quick.
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Coliseum Gun Traders on Long Island had 10 of them yesterday with all three available stocks. I think all but one were sold by mid-day today. They have another 10 on the way for next week. Not sure if they will have more coming but I'm guessing the next batch is going to sell out quick. It's a nice little light weight rifle. View Quote Did you get to handle it? What was the price? |
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Coliseum Gun Traders on Long Island had 10 of them yesterday with all three available stocks. I think all but one were sold by mid-day today. They have another 10 on the way for next week. Not sure if they will have more coming but I'm guessing the next batch is going to sell out quick. It's a nice little light weight rifle. Did you get to handle it? What was the price? would like to see a range report also at some point. |
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The word is they have some for sale and he wouldnt quote me a price over the phone, so I asked him if it was close to MSRP, and he said "close". I am dropping off 24 tons of wood pellets on oser ave in Hauppauge on monday so I will have to check them out.
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Coliseum Gun Traders on Long Island had 10 of them yesterday with all three available stocks. I think all but one were sold by mid-day today. They have another 10 on the way for next week. Not sure if they will have more coming but I'm guessing the next batch is going to sell out quick. It's a nice little light weight rifle. Did you get to handle it? What was the price? I Handled two versions, short and standard stock. Very light and handy feeling rifles. The standard stock is nice but I prefer the shorter versions as I'm used to short stocks. They are priced at $850. I doubt any are left, but they have another small shipment coming in. |
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Quoted: Gotcha. To each their own. I am more about function. While I enjoy shooting, I don't see my firearms as toys, but as tools. A "evil" looking AR with a fixed mag is more or less an expensive single use rifle in a real use situation. Like DaveMP said, it's a modern M1 carbine. View Quote I'd be in for a lower and bolt carrier to put on one of my own uppers. |
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Here's the reply I got from Ares a couple weeks ago:
Jay,Someone asked about the gas block, I asked about spare parts (anything can break) availability, for any of the custom pieces they use. I should probably reply to the email eventually. |
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OK, I just went and looked at one.
First impressions: VERY IMPRESSED. It is short and light. With the standard stock it is shorter than a mini-14 Feels like it will handle beautifully. Accuracy won't be any issue since you can use any upper. It appears that a .22 conversion unit should work without issue (take THAT 10-22 fans!). It is like a .223 m-1 Carbine. IF the reliability is there (to be determined) I can see this being a very big Police/Military gun - I think you could chop off the buttstock like on a shotgun and basically have a pistol grip AR, maybe with a side folding wire stock. add a 10" barrel and what a neat assault weapon in selective fire. You could do stuff with this you can never do with an AR due to the gas buffer. I want to see the bolt hold open. That is big to me. Other than that, and the fact that someone needs to make a cheap bolt on iron sight or optic sight, this is a must have. It will sell like hotcakes, even in non ban (free) states. It is a light fast handling carbine. |
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Same here. I'd really like to know if the bolt hold open can be added to any SCR lower, or if the lowers with the bolt hold feature are machined differently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I want to see the bolt hold open. That is big to me. Same here. I'd really like to know if the bolt hold open can be added to any SCR lower, or if the lowers with the bolt hold feature are machined differently. There is a plug in the receiver and the dealer stated it can be retro fitted. |
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It is also designed to accept multiple calibers. 7.62X39 is coming, F U B O and your ban on Saiga.
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NY Hometown Groupbuy! +1. I'm really interest in seeing the insides of the gas system. It's an AR upper. There isn't anything different about the gas system. |
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NY Hometown Groupbuy! +1. I'm really interest in seeing the insides of the gas system. It's an AR upper. There isn't anything different about the gas system. If i read it right the bolt carrier is different but same bolt as a normal ar and system. Wish they had more detail about it for sure. |
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thanks for the pic.. Interesting ..
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I believe this is the bolt carrier. The spring system goes down into the stock at an angle. http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/04/ARES-bolt-carrier-1.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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NY Hometown Groupbuy! +1. I'm really interest in seeing the insides of the gas system. It's an AR upper. There isn't anything different about the gas system. If i read it right the bolt carrier is different but same bolt as a normal ar and system. Wish they had more detail about it for sure. I believe this is the bolt carrier. The spring system goes down into the stock at an angle. http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/04/ARES-bolt-carrier-1.jpg Would I be correct to assume that the bolt itself is the same, but the carrier is the only thing different (plus the buffer and spring, of course). |
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