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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:27:52 PM

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My girlfriend's grandfather recently bought a new Polaris ATV and he asked a forest ranger if he was allowed to ride the ATV down the road at all and the ranger said no. The ATV is registered and I thought the law stated you were allowed 500 feet between trails/roads. Am I mistaken or was the ranger mistaken?
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Posted: 8/5/2012 7:51:21 PM

The Ranger is correct. There are exceptions in Lewis , Jefferson Co.'s and I am sure others. Roads have been opened by town boards
to connect legal trails. These roads usually have a sign designating atv open.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:08:16 PM
Now what would make you think that just because the NYS DMV forced you to pay to plate and register the thing, that they would also allow you any type of leaway in actually driving it on public roads? Tsk..tsk...
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:28:39 PM
What your going to have to do is get a ticket and or impound/ tow. Then you can set a trial date and then prove the ranger wrong. As I always say, the only thing the cops (rangers in your case) are taught is you are right. If they ever took the years needed to study the law in NY state there head would explode. I have a ATV club on my land so I do know the NY state law. You can drive a shot distance from trail to trail. Its usually 500 feet, just to have a limit in the law. Now maybe that little backwater town has some idiotic law that actually bans any ATV from any public highway. That is the only possibility.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:57:28 PM
Originally Posted By cetane:
What your going to have to do is get a ticket and or impound/ tow. Then you can set a trial date and then prove the ranger wrong. As I always say, the only thing the cops (rangers in your case) are taught is you are right. If they ever took the years needed to study the law in NY state there head would explode. I have a ATV club on my land so I do know the NY state law. You can drive a shot distance from trail to trail. Its usually 500 feet, just to have a limit in the law. Now maybe that little backwater town has some idiotic law that actually bans any ATV from any public highway. That is the only possibility.


Is there anyway you could point me to the literature that staes that? I'd love to print it out and give it to my girlfriend's grandfather to "test" the ranger's theory..

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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:28:34 PM
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Originally Posted By gunner-1:
Originally Posted By cetane:
What your going to have to do is get a ticket and or impound/ tow. Then you can set a trial date and then prove the ranger wrong. As I always say, the only thing the cops (rangers in your case) are taught is you are right. If they ever took the years needed to study the law in NY state there head would explode. I have a ATV club on my land so I do know the NY state law. You can drive a shot distance from trail to trail. Its usually 500 feet, just to have a limit in the law. Now maybe that little backwater town has some idiotic law that actually bans any ATV from any public highway. That is the only possibility.


Is there anyway you could point me to the literature that staes that? I'd love to print it out and give it to my girlfriend's grandfather to "test" the ranger's theory..



this?

http://www.dmv.ny.gov/broch/c29.htm
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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:31:31 PM
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Originally Posted By gunner-1:
Originally Posted By cetane:
What your going to have to do is get a ticket and or impound/ tow. Then you can set a trial date and then prove the ranger wrong. As I always say, the only thing the cops (rangers in your case) are taught is you are right. If they ever took the years needed to study the law in NY state there head would explode. I have a ATV club on my land so I do know the NY state law. You can drive a shot distance from trail to trail. Its usually 500 feet, just to have a limit in the law. Now maybe that little backwater town has some idiotic law that actually bans any ATV from any public highway. That is the only possibility.


Is there anyway you could point me to the literature that staes that? I'd love to print it out and give it to my girlfriend's grandfather to "test" the ranger's theory..



Unless its a dedicated farm ATV, it is subject to the VTL as already indicated in the thread . Relevant section is NYS VTL 2403 and 2407

nyfb.org/img/topic_pdfs/file_fouvvkimna.pdf

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/VAT/XI/48-C/2403
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Posted: 8/5/2012 10:49:45 PM
I always thought you could only cross the road or public highway but not travel on them. I don't really care anyways as I always travel miles between a trail on the back roads. Also i dont see why we cannot register for the road like overseas or a few small towns allow. I mean really if we allow those 3 wheel canam things then why cannot we ride the wheeler with proper tires? I mean they do 70+ now and get there quickly
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Posted: 8/5/2012 11:53:26 PM
I love it! Ive been doing this for years, and guys are saying its Illegal. (Not LEO) Just local people.
What about farm ATVs?
Under New York State law, ATVs used exclusively (100%) for farm purposes are exempt from operational
requirements. For example, much like tractors, farm ATVs may be driven on public roadways (except
interstates), provided it is in connection with the farm.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:57:35 PM
Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Now what would make you think that just because the NYS DMV forced you to pay to plate and register the thing, that they would also allow you any type of leaway in actually driving it on public roads? Tsk..tsk...


Why bother at all? What does it get you in return except for a lighter wallet and more big brother?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:17:04 PM
Originally Posted By Bandag:
Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Now what would make you think that just because the NYS DMV forced you to pay to plate and register the thing, that they would also allow you any type of leaway in actually driving it on public roads? Tsk..tsk...


Why bother at all? What does it get you in return except for a lighter wallet and more big brother?


Well if you get caught w/o it registered (couldn't get away fast enough) then they can impound your wheeler and then good luck getting it back.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 5:04:01 PM
Originally Posted By Wildman1024:
Originally Posted By Bandag:
Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Now what would make you think that just because the NYS DMV forced you to pay to plate and register the thing, that they would also allow you any type of leaway in actually driving it on public roads? Tsk..tsk...


Why bother at all? What does it get you in return except for a lighter wallet and more big brother?


Well if you get caught w/o it registered (couldn't get away fast enough) then they can impound your wheeler and then good luck getting it back.


Even with it on Pvt property? WTF?....
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Posted: 8/8/2012 5:47:00 PM
Originally Posted By Bandag:
Originally Posted By Wildman1024:
Originally Posted By Bandag:
Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Now what would make you think that just because the NYS DMV forced you to pay to plate and register the thing, that they would also allow you any type of leaway in actually driving it on public roads? Tsk..tsk...


Why bother at all? What does it get you in return except for a lighter wallet and more big brother?


Well if you get caught w/o it registered (couldn't get away fast enough) then they can impound your wheeler and then good luck getting it back.


Even with it on Pvt property? WTF?....


W/o permission? Yes, violation. Impoundment, not likely. Loss of possession for VTL violations? As long as "you" are the lawful owner of said ATV and can prove it, it is your private property and thus protected as such.

ATV law/regulations are actually quite simple if one wants to read them....