New from an out of state dealer? I think I want a dedicated .22 conversion glock.

Wait a couple months. No cobis. (fingers crossed)

New Glocks come with two fired shells anyway. At least the two I bought from out of state did.

No fired casing needed. FP has it right. I just purchased a Lonewolf Timberwolf frame to build a longslide 9mm on and there is no way to provide a casing. Even if they did ask for a casing, would you have someone from COBIS come to do the testing? Like SP10 said, hopefully this is no longer an issue to worry about.

This is exactly what I want to do.

Here's how it works:
You're surfing the 'net and see an ad for Glock frames from Bill-Bob's Gunshop in West BFE. Bill-Bob gets them from ABC Wholesale, and when they come in he enters the details into his bound book.

You call him up and make arrangements to buy it; where by your dealer send him a copy of his FFL, and ships the gun to your dealer. It is now a used handgun, and therefore exempt from CoBiS testing requirements.

IF you have your dealer order it direct from ABC Wholesale and it's a Frame/Other (no upper) then it's exempt from testing.

IF your dealer orders a new, complete pistol from ABC then it's going to have to be tested (unless samples are supplied with the handgun from the factory.)

Keep in mind this legislation is the product of the most dis-functional State Government in the history of this Country....and they say the South is ass-backwards.

More than a few NY FFLs were having "new" guns shipped in like this tested, with fees passed on the the buyer.

Sometimes it's a necessity: I know of one Dealer who's Distributor would not send TC frames to NY because they couldn't be CoBIS tested. The solution: order them from a dealer in FL
How many times have we been refused a sale because we live in NY?
Even when the law(s) are explained, and citation given, they still won't even chance it.

I learn something new every time I log on here.

You don't know the history of that handgun when it comes from another dealer.

I presume for my purposes that only guns from wholesalers are "new".

Yes they are; when a firearm is received it MUST be logged into a bound book, and when transferred to another dealer the firearm is logged out of the book and a 4473 is filled out with both dealers information and the guns information. (we also staple the FFL to the 4473)
Simply producing the handgun disposition book would clearly show where the handgun came from, and the law is clear about what constitutes a "used" handgun.
Ironically, the way the law is written and the way the NYSP utilized it are not the same: the Law says from the manufacturer, however few actually come direct from the maker, but rather from wholesalers or distributors.

"..engaged in the business of supplying pistols or revolvers to licensed dealers in firearms in this state."


The guy I buy my gun from off Gunbroker isn't engaged in the business of supplying pistols or revolvers to licensed dealers in firearms in this state. He's not getting any money from my FFL, he's making it from me.