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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:08:04 PM
Personally , I would like to slap those idiots over at Century arms SIDEWAYS for allowing such a molestation of a finite number of gorgeous kits to happen . As an " event " in the industry it should be seen for what it is . Unforgivable .
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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:26:58 PM
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Personally , I would like to slap those idiots over at Century arms SIDEWAYS for allowing such a molestation of a finite number of gorgeous kits to happen . As an " event " in the industry it should be seen for what it is . Unforgivable .


What do you mean by "allowing" such a molestation to happen to kits?
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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:54:17 PM
Of the copies that I have seen , ( along w/ the stock of 15 or 16 Century built m76s that I asked to have checked (and were all found to be " substandard " for my uses )w/ accuracy being to most important . The wholesaler that we tried to work with could not find ONE m76 in their stock that had straight sights ( or weren't bent in some other way .) Now . . I'm not saying that there isn't a good Century M76 out there , . . . . . . . but from my personal experience . . . the odds are NOT good . The receivers that they have are very good . Not cosmetically perfect in a M76 sort of way,
but able to be made straight , and functional . Not like the ORF debacle of fame . One of the ones that I saw had the forged receiver bent a few degrees , behind where the barrel presses into it .
You could hold the rifle up and see the barrel make a left hand turn . This was sent out as a "new " rifle . I am still sick .
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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:57:09 PM
FYI for builders:

Clearview Investments has barreled AMD-65 kits in stock and lots of barreled Vz.58 kits. Just keep in mind the Vz.58 is a challenging kit to build up and will require a lot of work. The AMD-65 are original 12.5" and will need barrel extensions.

RGuns has barrel-less, unissued Russian Izhmash AK-47 kits that will work with Romanian barrels from APEX; also barrel-less Izhmash AK-74 kits, barrel-less Tula 5.45 krink kits (they sell 16" barrels for them too) and virgin M72 RPK kits in stock. Virgin RPK's require a lot of work as they've never been assembled. The trunnions haven't even been drilled for barrel pins. They have no serial numbers on any of the parts, just proof marks.

Blackthorne/AKPartsKits has virgin Yugoslavian M85 5.56 krink kits and virgin M92 krink kits in stock for decent prices. Can't really build them in NY, they're valuable and cool to have in case you move to a state where SBR's can be owned.

There are builders out there who will assemble your barrels and head space them ahead of time.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:01:07 PM
Originally Posted By thirsty:
FYI for builders:

Clearview Investments has barreled AMD-65 kits in stock and lots of barreled Vz.58 kits. Just keep in mind the Vz.58 is a challenging kit to build up and will require a lot of work. The AMD-65 are original 12.5" and will need barrel extensions.

RGuns has barrel-less, unissued Russian Izhmash AK-47 kits that will work with Romanian barrels from APEX; also barrel-less Izhmash AK-74 kits, barrel-less Tula 5.45 krink kits (they sell 16" barrels for them too) and virgin M72 RPK kits in stock. Virgin RPK's require a lot of work as they've never been assembled. The trunnions haven't even been drilled for barrel pins. They have no serial numbers on any of the parts, just proof marks.

Blackthorne/AKPartsKits has virgin Yugoslavian M85 5.56 krink kits and virgin M92 krink kits in stock for decent prices. Can't really build them in NY, they're valuable and cool to have in case you move to a state where SBR's can be owned.

There are builders out there who will assemble your barrels and head space them ahead of time.


Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:10:05 PM
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Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:11:48 PM
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Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:15:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Rich219:
Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!


I guess I'll be checking in frequently.

I'm waiting on the next group of M90/95 full size 5.56 rifle kits that will probably never come. There are a few out there as kits but prices are rapidly approaching $1,000 on those. If I'm going to spend that much money I'll just buy a Bulgarian AKS74U kit.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:17:54 PM
Originally Posted By thirsty:
FYI for builders:

Clearview Investments has barreled AMD-65 kits in stock and lots of barreled Vz.58 kits. Just keep in mind the Vz.58 is a challenging kit to build up and will require a lot of work. The AMD-65 are original 12.5" and will need barrel extensions.

RGuns has barrel-less, unissued Russian Izhmash AK-47 kits that will work with Romanian barrels from APEX; also barrel-less Izhmash AK-74 kits, barrel-less Tula 5.45 krink kits (they sell 16" barrels for them too) and virgin M72 RPK kits in stock. Virgin RPK's require a lot of work as they've never been assembled. The trunnions haven't even been drilled for barrel pins. They have no serial numbers on any of the parts, just proof marks.

Blackthorne/AKPartsKits has virgin Yugoslavian M85 5.56 krink kits and virgin M92 krink kits in stock for decent prices. Can't really build them in NY, they're valuable and cool to have in case you move to a state where SBR's can be owned.

There are builders out there who will assemble your barrels and head space them ahead of time.


Would love to do a Russian AK-47 kit but as per Rich's requirements, they need to be barreled kits.

If anyone has a line on complete kit for Russian AK or Yugo M76, drop me a dime.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:23:07 PM
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Originally Posted By thirsty:
FYI for builders:

Clearview Investments has barreled AMD-65 kits in stock and lots of barreled Vz.58 kits. Just keep in mind the Vz.58 is a challenging kit to build up and will require a lot of work. The AMD-65 are original 12.5" and will need barrel extensions.

RGuns has barrel-less, unissued Russian Izhmash AK-47 kits that will work with Romanian barrels from APEX; also barrel-less Izhmash AK-74 kits, barrel-less Tula 5.45 krink kits (they sell 16" barrels for them too) and virgin M72 RPK kits in stock. Virgin RPK's require a lot of work as they've never been assembled. The trunnions haven't even been drilled for barrel pins. They have no serial numbers on any of the parts, just proof marks.

Blackthorne/AKPartsKits has virgin Yugoslavian M85 5.56 krink kits and virgin M92 krink kits in stock for decent prices. Can't really build them in NY, they're valuable and cool to have in case you move to a state where SBR's can be owned.

There are builders out there who will assemble your barrels and head space them ahead of time.


Would love to do a Russian AK-47 kit but as per Rich's requirements, they need to be barreled kits.

If anyone has a line on complete kit for Russian AK or Yugo M76, drop me a dime.


You could always get the barrel installed in the kit before the build party, I think there are a few companies that can do this for you.

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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:25:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Rich219:
Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!


I guess I'll be checking in frequently.

I'm waiting on the next group of M90/95 full size 5.56 rifle kits that will probably never come. There are a few out there as kits but prices are rapidly approaching $1,000 on those. If I'm going to spend that much money I'll just buy a Bulgarian AKS74U kit.


Those Tula AKS-74U kits have been calling me for a few months, I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out on grabbing one.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:26:01 PM
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Originally Posted By thirsty:
FYI for builders:

Clearview Investments has barreled AMD-65 kits in stock and lots of barreled Vz.58 kits. Just keep in mind the Vz.58 is a challenging kit to build up and will require a lot of work. The AMD-65 are original 12.5" and will need barrel extensions.

RGuns has barrel-less, unissued Russian Izhmash AK-47 kits that will work with Romanian barrels from APEX; also barrel-less Izhmash AK-74 kits, barrel-less Tula 5.45 krink kits (they sell 16" barrels for them too) and virgin M72 RPK kits in stock. Virgin RPK's require a lot of work as they've never been assembled. The trunnions haven't even been drilled for barrel pins. They have no serial numbers on any of the parts, just proof marks.

Blackthorne/AKPartsKits has virgin Yugoslavian M85 5.56 krink kits and virgin M92 krink kits in stock for decent prices. Can't really build them in NY, they're valuable and cool to have in case you move to a state where SBR's can be owned.

There are builders out there who will assemble your barrels and head space them ahead of time.


Would love to do a Russian AK-47 kit but as per Rich's requirements, they need to be barreled kits.

If anyone has a line on complete kit for Russian AK or Yugo M76, drop me a dime.


You could always get the barrel installed in the kit before the build party, I think there are a few companies that can do this for you.



Will look into it.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 12:10:13 AM
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Just wait a gosh darn minute here. Let me try and get this right; The guy who's username is "free beer" is going to show up with salsa and pickles? I vote that in keeping with the spirit of your handle, you bring the beer.


Shut your whore mouth, I'm bringing you a case of Beast (light... You're getting kind tubby and starting to look like me )


Hmmm. The freebeer guy just PM'ed me and said that he would be bringing me a 12 pack of Dogfish head 120 minute IPA if I help him build his. Being the guy that I am, I will give you a chance to beat his offer


You know, it's a CoC violation to discuss beer deals without involving the guy who goes by "thirsty."


Take the 12 pack of Dogfish head 120 minute IPA. You will not regret it. Just do not start drinking it until after you are done with the build. It is 9.5% alcohol!


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Posted: 1/10/2012 6:44:00 AM
Being behind enemy lines what kits are available for US to build other than Romanian AK-47 kits?
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Posted: 1/10/2012 7:36:55 AM
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Being behind enemy lines what kits are available for US to build other than Romanian AK-47 kits?


All kits are ok to have. Building them knowing they aren't legal in certain configurations is not ok.

ETA: In the instance of the AMD-65, the original barrel length is 12.5" and it has a side folding stock. In NY the remedy is to replace the folding stock with a fixed unit or welding the folder open, and the barrel can be legally lengthened with a number of aftermarket barrel extenders/muzzle brakes.

You can have as many Krink kits as you like. They're not guns, just parts.
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I'm coming to this party but now the problem is finding a damn kit that I can not only own but build, LOL. Still looking for AK-74 barreled kits.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 7:50:38 AM
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I'm coming to this party but now the problem is finding a damn kit that I can not only own but build, LOL. Still looking for AK-74 barreled kits.


The next best thing is the original Bulgarian chrome-lined barrels for sale on Atlantic Firearms, and the 5.45 AK kit of your choice whether a, Izhmash kit from RGuns or one of the plentiful Bulgarian kits. For an additional $50-75 you can have a builder assemble and head space the barrel beforehand. AK-Builder does a great job. If it were me that's the route I'd take for an AK-74.

You guys are going to hate this, but back in the day the $99 barreled Romy G kits were the metric we used to measure the price of other kits back in 2006/2007. When looking at the Bulgarian AK-74 or Polish Wz.88 Tantal for instance, that both sold for around $200, we would exclaim, "$200 for a kit! Bullshit."
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:25:12 PM
Saturday the 28th will work for me for anyone who wants to bend flats. So far 4 people are planning on bending their own.
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What hotels are around ya?

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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:45:44 PM
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Originally Posted By KlingtonHtr:
I'm coming to this party but now the problem is finding a damn kit that I can not only own but build, LOL. Still looking for AK-74 barreled kits.


The next best thing is the original Bulgarian chrome-lined barrels for sale on Atlantic Firearms, and the 5.45 AK kit of your choice whether a, Izhmash kit from RGuns or one of the plentiful Bulgarian kits. For an additional $50-75 you can have a builder assemble and head space the barrel beforehand. AK-Builder does a great job. If it were me that's the route I'd take for an AK-74.

You guys are going to hate this, but back in the day the $99 barreled Romy G kits were the metric we used to measure the price of other kits back in 2006/2007. When looking at the Bulgarian AK-74 or Polish Wz.88 Tantal for instance, that both sold for around $200, we would exclaim, "$200 for a kit! Bullshit."


I paid $65 for a complete AMD kit

Still have it along with a Bulgy 74 kit and. Yugoslav 7.62 stamped kit
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:49:56 PM
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What hotels are around ya?



Hotel de Springwater.




Geneseo, Canandaigua, and Henrietta are the three closest towns that will have decent hotels.

Geneseo has a new hotel that was built over the summer. Henrietta has a ton of them. Canandaigua has a few hotels but I don't know how they are.

There isn't much in the way of hotels, etc. within 35 minutes + of my house.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 11:50:20 PM
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Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!


I guess I'll be checking in frequently.

I'm waiting on the next group of M90/95 full size 5.56 rifle kits that will probably never come. There are a few out there as kits but prices are rapidly approaching $1,000 on those. If I'm going to spend that much money I'll just buy a Bulgarian AKS74U kit.


Those Tula AKS-74U kits have been calling me for a few months, I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out on grabbing one.

Dont wait, just get one.
Building it was a bliss.



ETA. I have full set of shop tools and jigs for AK build. Can lend for this build party with condition it will be returned within a week or two in the same working order
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Posted: 1/10/2012 11:53:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Rich219:
Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!


I guess I'll be checking in frequently.

I'm waiting on the next group of M90/95 full size 5.56 rifle kits that will probably never come. There are a few out there as kits but prices are rapidly approaching $1,000 on those. If I'm going to spend that much money I'll just buy a Bulgarian AKS74U kit.


Those Tula AKS-74U kits have been calling me for a few months, I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out on grabbing one.

Dont wait, just get one.
Building it was a bliss.
http://images56.fotki.com/v362/photos/1/1220001/10064678/P1087896-vi.jpg


ETA. I have full set of shop tools and jigs for AK build. Can lend for this build party with condition it will be returned within a week or two in the same working order



Where are you located? A second set of jigs would be very handy. Even just a second riveting jig would save a ton of time.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 11:56:13 PM
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Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By Rich219:
Atlantic Firearms also just got in a batch on kits that will be available some time next week according to them.


Any idea what the kits are?


Not yet, they haven't said. They did say they have some yugo 5.56mm krink kits coming in though!


I guess I'll be checking in frequently.

I'm waiting on the next group of M90/95 full size 5.56 rifle kits that will probably never come. There are a few out there as kits but prices are rapidly approaching $1,000 on those. If I'm going to spend that much money I'll just buy a Bulgarian AKS74U kit.


Those Tula AKS-74U kits have been calling me for a few months, I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out on grabbing one.

Dont wait, just get one.
Building it was a bliss.
http://images56.fotki.com/v362/photos/1/1220001/10064678/P1087896-vi.jpg


ETA. I have full set of shop tools and jigs for AK build. Can lend for this build party with condition it will be returned within a week or two in the same working order



Where are you located? A second set of jigs would be very handy. Even just a second riveting jig would save a ton of time.


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