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So they have a policy against it but it's not posted at the entrances?

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Kroger corp policy is to follow local laws and they allow the legal carry of firearms in all stores.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/25/kroger-cfo-we-reject-moms-demand-actions-push-to-disarm-our-customers/


If you complain up the chain someone might lose their job.

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First it might be best to talk to the GM of the store and see what he says. If he mirrors what the manager you spoke to said then I would take that to the corporate office.

Even if that store is a franchise they are more than likely going to have to stick with the wishing of the corporate office.

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I had a couple of items to pick up at the grocery store last night, and happened to be carrying openly with my shirt tucked in.  The Kroger on El Camino and Seafoam is close to my house and I've OC'd there before with no issues.  They are not posted with either 30.06 or 30.07 signs, or even the useless gunbuster signs.  



This time, another customer apparently saw me carrying and went off to ask one of the employees if they allowed people to carry guns in the store.  The customer then came to find me, and said that an employee had told him that carry was not allowed (I did not witness this exchange myself).  After confirming that he was just another customer and not someone with apparent authority to act for the store owner, I politely thanked him for letting me know, told him that I was licensed to carry and that carrying openly was perfectly legal, but that I would ask the manager, and went on my way.  



After putting my bag of groceries in the car, I did just that - found the manager, told her what had transpired, and asked her whether the other customer was correct.  She confirmed that that particular store has a policy against customers legally carrying firearms, whether concealed or openly, but that they also tell their employees not to ask anybody to leave, but instead to call the constable and have him tell them to leave.  She told me that this policy was because seeing a gun "scares people."  After thanking her the clarification, I reassured her that licensees are some of the most law-abiding people in the country and very un-scary, told her that I could not shop at her store anymore, and left.  The constable never did show up.  



This whole encounter surprised me a bit, given that Kroger's corporate policy has always been to defer to state laws and not to try to enforce politics on their customers.  This is the right way to deal with it, IMO, and it's one reason why I shop at Kroger.  This store is evidently diverging from that policy and blazing their own trail.  



So, for any arfcommers with LTC's, I suggest avoiding the Kroger on El Camino and taking your money to another store.  If enough people do, and tell them why, maybe the policy will be changed.  I'm also going to try to get in touch with Kroger corporate and make them aware that this store is not following the corporate policy and is costing them customers.

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Kroger corp policy is to follow local laws and they allow the legal carry of firearms in all stores.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/25/kroger-cfo-we-reject-moms-demand-actions-push-to-disarm-our-customers/


If you complain up the chain someone might lose their job.

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The Kroger on El Camino and Seafoam is close to my house and I've OC'd there before with no issues.  They are not posted with either 30.06 or 30.07 signs, or even the useless gunbuster signs.  

After putting my bag of groceries in the car, I did just that - found the manager, told her what had transpired, and asked her whether the other customer was correct. She confirmed that that particular store has a policy against customers legally carrying firearms, whether concealed or openly, but that they also tell their employees not to ask anybody to leave, but instead to call the constable and have him tell them to leave. .

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Interesting. 30.06/07 is only valid if:

(b)  For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.

While I am sure the Constable will think they manager has authority, in ALL places I have worked, managers do NOT have authority to override corporate policy.

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I open carry in a few Krogers in the DFW area with zero issues. And I know I've been seen doing it, a few weeks ago a woman had a seizure in the pharmacy and sadly I was the only person that made any effort to help her. (she's okay and even sent me a thank you card )

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Employees can be wrong.  This happened at a McDonald's a couple of weeks ago when I was picking up breakfast. I have open carried here dozens of times and half the time cops and a manager are there and no me batted an eye. There is no sign up either.

The same cashier who has served my orders for months asks me.


Cashier: is that a gun?
Me: yes
Cashier: you can't bring that in here.
Me: yes I can. I'll have an egg white delight


She paused and continued to ring it up. I have been back since and no issues again.
 

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I had a couple of items to pick up at the grocery store last night, and happened to be carrying openly with my shirt tucked in.  The Kroger on El Camino and Seafoam is close to my house and I've OC'd there before with no issues.  They are not posted with either 30.06 or 30.07 signs, or even the useless gunbuster signs.  

This time, another customer apparently saw me carrying and went off to ask one of the employees if they allowed people to carry guns in the store.  The customer then came to find me, and said that an employee had told him that carry was not allowed (I did not witness this exchange myself).  After confirming that he was just another customer and not someone with apparent authority to act for the store owner, I politely thanked him for letting me know, told him that I was licensed to carry and that carrying openly was perfectly legal, but that I would ask the manager, and went on my way.  

After putting my bag of groceries in the car, I did just that - found the manager, told her what had transpired, and asked her whether the other customer was correct.  She confirmed that that particular store has a policy against customers legally carrying firearms, whether concealed or openly, but that they also tell their employees not to ask anybody to leave, but instead to call the constable and have him tell them to leave.  She told me that this policy was because seeing a gun "scares people."  After thanking her the clarification, I reassured her that licensees are some of the most law-abiding people in the country and very un-scary, told her that I could not shop at her store anymore, and left.  The constable never did show up.  

This whole encounter surprised me a bit, given that Kroger's corporate policy has always been to defer to state laws and not to try to enforce politics on their customers.  This is the right way to deal with it, IMO, and it's one reason why I shop at Kroger.  This store is evidently diverging from that policy and blazing their own trail.  

So, for any arfcommers with LTC's, I suggest avoiding the Kroger on El Camino and taking your money to another store.  If enough people do, and tell them why, maybe the policy will be changed.  I'm also going to try to get in touch with Kroger corporate and make them aware that this store is not following the corporate policy and is costing them customers.

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This is why you don't ask.  Until you sought out the manager, you were not given notice.  

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UPDATE: I was able to talk with the store general manager today, and she confirmed that the manager-on-duty that I spoke to Thursday was acting on her own and making stuff up.  The store policy mirrors Kroger's corporate policy of deferring to state and local laws - there is no prohibition against licensees lawfully carrying handguns in the store.  



The GM apologized for the other manager's actions and promised to talk with her about it.  She also said that she will hold a staff meeting to reinforce to all employees that it is not a cause for concern to see a person merely carrying a holstered pistol, and not to call the police or have the person removed unless there is some actual threat involved.

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UPDATE: I was able to talk with the store general manager today, and she confirmed that the manager-on-duty that I spoke to Thursday was acting on her own and making stuff up.  The store policy mirrors Kroger's corporate policy of deferring to state and local laws - there is no prohibition against licensees lawfully carrying handguns in the store.  

The GM apologized for the other manager's actions and promised to talk with her about it.  She also said that she will hold a staff meeting to reinforce to all employees that it is not a cause for concern to see a person merely carrying a holstered pistol, and not to call the police or have the person removed unless there is some actual threat involved.