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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:37:22 PM EDT
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Just coming in to say hi
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:50:01 PM EDT
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Apparently, you still don't grasp the fact that your state-sponsored socialism doesn't accomplish what you think it does. How can you be so blind to the detrimental effects of price controls? Do you live in Texas? If so, it's also YOUR state sponsored socialism. 
I'm not blind to price controls........but this isn't the same as price controls. I worked in a grocery store in the '70's and am well aware of price freezes and control policies. (and that was a gift from Nixon, not someone that many would call a socialist) Prohibitions on price gouging during a disaster or emergency isn't the same and does not have the same intent. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:07:04 PM EDT
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It is the idiot neckbeards that cleaned out all the supplies after getting all jacked up by the media and the retards on the internet. The one place CTD really screwed up was on ELECTION night '08 pulling the sight down and going up the new prices..I was like yeah let's fan the flames!!  I thought it was more stupidity than gouging. That night NO ONE NEEDED a new P Mag! Wanta raise the price, then sit on them.
If there was a real panic, go to retail price and limit the buyer to 3-4 mags a week, that would stop the neckbeard from maxing out his credit card and cleaning out a supplier that may not get anymore supplies in for a couple of months. As far as real gouging, if I owned a gas station especially on say a hurricane evacuation route, it would be illegal to raise a gallon of gas from say $3 to $30 a gallon, but as I read the law I could limit everyone to say a 10 gallon purchase at $3 a gallon. That way 'everyone' has a chance at some gas. I never hated CTD, I bought if they had what I wanted at a price close to what I could buy it for elsewhere. Last year CTD was very generous at many of the big 3 gun matches, I got quite a few $50 gift cards of the prize table, I did appreciated that. In my opinion what happened was the stores especially the Round Rock store was in a pretty 'high rent' shopping center, and they spent a lot remodeling the insides for a very nice store, but playing the help, rent etc. is rough competing against internet 'stores' that are in a warehouse or some one's garage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Texas: I am disappoint. I was actually unaware we're pandering to morons and passed a law like that. 
Texas isn't the only state with such laws. They are geared more towards incidents like natural disasters and emergencies where people are in serious need of certain items. Would you like it if there was a disaster in your area to where there was no electricity and no drinking water and the local stores started charging prices so high for water and gas that you could no longer afford them for your family because you weren't as rich as some of the other people in town? Or how about plywood to board up your home for a hurricane that is coming? Should Home Depot/Lowes/McCoys start charging $500 per sheet of plywood because they know the demand has now skyrocketed? Sure, some rich people with expensive homes would pay that much if needed, but what about everyone else? In that case it's not an issue of there being a low supply, that would just be taking advantage of a serious need of local people. That kind of price gouging is much different than what some people allege against companies like CTD. Gun parts & ammo are things we may want, but not things we need, especially during buying sprees that were self inflicted by gun owners. It is the idiot neckbeards that cleaned out all the supplies after getting all jacked up by the media and the retards on the internet. The one place CTD really screwed up was on ELECTION night '08 pulling the sight down and going up the new prices..I was like yeah let's fan the flames!! I thought it was more stupidity than gouging. That night NO ONE NEEDED a new P Mag! Wanta raise the price, then sit on them.
If there was a real panic, go to retail price and limit the buyer to 3-4 mags a week, that would stop the neckbeard from maxing out his credit card and cleaning out a supplier that may not get anymore supplies in for a couple of months. As far as real gouging, if I owned a gas station especially on say a hurricane evacuation route, it would be illegal to raise a gallon of gas from say $3 to $30 a gallon, but as I read the law I could limit everyone to say a 10 gallon purchase at $3 a gallon. That way 'everyone' has a chance at some gas. I never hated CTD, I bought if they had what I wanted at a price close to what I could buy it for elsewhere. Last year CTD was very generous at many of the big 3 gun matches, I got quite a few $50 gift cards of the prize table, I did appreciated that. In my opinion what happened was the stores especially the Round Rock store was in a pretty 'high rent' shopping center, and they spent a lot remodeling the insides for a very nice store, but playing the help, rent etc. is rough competing against internet 'stores' that are in a warehouse or some one's garage. So basically, you can get a P-mag or 1/2 a P-mag?    
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you live in Texas? If so, it's also YOUR state sponsored socialism. I'm not blind to price controls........but this isn't the same as price controls. I worked in a grocery store in the '70's and am well aware of price freezes and control policies. (and that was a gift from Nixon, not someone that many would call a socialist) Prohibitions on price gouging during a disaster or emergency isn't the same and does not have the same intent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Apparently, you still don't grasp the fact that your state-sponsored socialism doesn't accomplish what you think it does. How can you be so blind to the detrimental effects of price controls? Do you live in Texas? If so, it's also YOUR state sponsored socialism. I'm not blind to price controls........but this isn't the same as price controls. I worked in a grocery store in the '70's and am well aware of price freezes and control policies. (and that was a gift from Nixon, not someone that many would call a socialist) Prohibitions on price gouging during a disaster or emergency isn't the same and does not have the same intent. Yes, it is my state sponsoring socialism. I already lamented the fact. And yes: Price controls during a disaster are just as stupid as they are at any other time. PLEASE tell me you at least read the article I posted and watched the video. It explains very clearly why those controls are a bad idea during an emergency. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:13:57 PM EDT
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I can see that CTD-gouging-or-not-gouging debate will be forever be in arfcom history as debates of chili-beans-no-beans, 45 vs. 9mm, and Ford vs. Chevy. Frankly, I enjoy reading them than debating them since it's endless and go nowhere. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:38:11 PM EDT
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Yes, it is my state sponsoring socialism. I already lamented the fact. And yes: Price controls during a disaster are just as stupid as they are at any other time. PLEASE tell me you at least read the article I posted and watched the video. It explains very clearly why those controls are a bad idea during an emergency. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Apparently, you still don't grasp the fact that your state-sponsored socialism doesn't accomplish what you think it does. How can you be so blind to the detrimental effects of price controls? Do you live in Texas? If so, it's also YOUR state sponsored socialism.
I'm not blind to price controls........but this isn't the same as price controls. I worked in a grocery store in the '70's and am well aware of price freezes and control policies. (and that was a gift from Nixon, not someone that many would call a socialist) Prohibitions on price gouging during a disaster or emergency isn't the same and does not have the same intent. Yes, it is my state sponsoring socialism. I already lamented the fact. And yes: Price controls during a disaster are just as stupid as they are at any other time. PLEASE tell me you at least read the article I posted and watched the video. It explains very clearly why those controls are a bad idea during an emergency. Yes, I read the article and watched the video. I don't agree with the author. I'm sure you can explain to our Gulf Coast members why it's really a good idea to pay $1300 for an $800 generator. or $20 for a gallon of water. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I read the article and watched the video. I don't agree with the author. I'm sure you can explain to our Gulf Coast members why it's really a good idea to pay $1300 for an $800 generator. or $20 for a gallon of water. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, it is my state sponsoring socialism. I already lamented the fact. And yes: Price controls during a disaster are just as stupid as they are at any other time. PLEASE tell me you at least read the article I posted and watched the video. It explains very clearly why those controls are a bad idea during an emergency. Yes, I read the article and watched the video. I don't agree with the author. I'm sure you can explain to our Gulf Coast members why it's really a good idea to pay $1300 for an $800 generator. or $20 for a gallon of water. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A $800 GENERATOR ANYMORE. Clearly you didn't read the article or watch the video or you wouldn't be asking such basic questions. [ETA] Just because you disagree doesn't mean that you're right. The law of supply and demand are still in effect during a natural disaster. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:06:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:22:30 PM EDT
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BECAUSE IT'S NOT A $800 GENERATOR ANYMORE. Clearly you didn't read the article or watch the video or you wouldn't be asking such basic questions. [ETA] Just because you disagree doesn't mean that you're right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, it is my state sponsoring socialism. I already lamented the fact. And yes: Price controls during a disaster are just as stupid as they are at any other time. PLEASE tell me you at least read the article I posted and watched the video. It explains very clearly why those controls are a bad idea during an emergency. Yes, I read the article and watched the video. I don't agree with the author. I'm sure you can explain to our Gulf Coast members why it's really a good idea to pay $1300 for an $800 generator. or $20 for a gallon of water. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A $800 GENERATOR ANYMORE. Clearly you didn't read the article or watch the video or you wouldn't be asking such basic questions. [ETA] Just because you disagree doesn't mean that you're right. Where the fuck did I ask you a question much less a "basic question"? Clearly you do not understand basic Engrish. The law of supply and demand are still in effect during a natural disaster. No shit?
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:32:06 PM EDT
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You are a perfect example of "equal rights for all, but special privileges for me."
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:57:33 PM EDT
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You are a perfect example of "equal rights for all, but special privileges for me." You know you are talking to a wall, right? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:05:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit? Quote HistoryQuoted: The law of supply and demand are still in effect during a natural disaster. No shit? No shit, which is why the government arbitrarily setting prices doesn't help the situation. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:52:01 AM EDT
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You know you are talking to a wall, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You are a perfect example of "equal rights for all, but special privileges for me." You know you are talking to a wall, right? People with a God complex dont care. Everyone else says there point of view and moves on, and might debate it a bit with someone. This one here tries to change your point of view to his. Must be a staff thing because i see it alot. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:37:05 AM EDT
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I don't give a shit if CTD prices a Pmag at $100. I do care if someone is trying to sell me a $20 bottle of water. You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:06:48 AM EDT
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You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't give a shit if CTD prices a Pmag at $100. I do care if someone is trying to sell me a $20 bottle of water. You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. No, he (and some others) would rather have the water convenient and available at a price that he thinks/believes is reasonable, no matter what the sellers cost to have it on hand or replace it is. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:11:19 AM EDT
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It was too bad the Mckinney store closed as more gun stores are always better. Of course I can apply logic and reason to make a purchase based on cost and availability versus irrational emotional impulses. That is the definition of butthurt (for those that do not know) |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:23:42 AM EDT
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No, he (and some others) would rather have the water convenient and available at a price that he thinks/believes is reasonable, no matter what the sellers cost to have it on hand or replace it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't give a shit if CTD prices a Pmag at $100. I do care if someone is trying to sell me a $20 bottle of water. You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. No, he (and some others) would rather have the water convenient and available at a price that he thinks/believes is reasonable, no matter what the sellers cost to have it on hand or replace it is. You would be wrong. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 4:53:41 PM EDT
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They had small parts which is what I actually liked about the store. No one else around here seems to stock the small parts that I may need/want to pick up on the weekend. Quantico Tactical works if I'm in Killeen for some reason - but that's not often. It was good place for this, or for killing time while the SO was shopping elsewhere in the shopping center. I had planned to take my son there while he was in town just to check out the inventory. I never let the $100 Pmag thing bother me because I never put myself in the situation that I needed to pay those prices. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:10:01 PM EDT
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The purse swinging is epic...as is the butthurt.
This argument / debate / conversation isn't best at extremes...sort of like any disagreement with a spouse.
Side 1 - "I don't like how CTD handled themselves during the panic, and that pisses me off enough to not shop there and trash them on the internet." Analysis - Okay, a customer is free to feel this way, spend this way, and speak this way. All is truly well, and rights are upheld on both sides of the equation. Side 2 - "CTD didn't break the law, and can do whatever the hell they want in a pure capitalistic society...freedom baby, I love it!" Analysis - Okay, true they certainly can make business decisions in this way, and the approving purchasing public is certainly right and vindicated in its choice to shop where they choose, and speak in support of CTD. So, this isn't about "gouging," or other unlawfulness, but it is about the purchasing public speaking and making purchases as they see fit...freedom. Some here have characterized those as making purchasing decision with "emotion" as having "butthurt." However, it's that person's right (and money) to choose how and why they choose. So, CTD can do as they've done, and some folks (like me), can choose to say "f*&k CTD" because that's what I want to say. Others can support them vehemently for whatever reason they choose. Beyond this, who gives a flying shit? In sum, and call me irrational if you like, but I say, "F*&k CTD." When you pay my bills then you can tell me how and where to spend MY money.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, CTD can do as they've done, and some folks (like me), can choose to say "f*&k CTD" because that's what I want to say. Others can support them vehemently for whatever reason they choose. Beyond this, who gives a flying shit? In sum, and call me irrational if you like, but I say, "F*&k CTD." When you pay my bills then you can tell me how and where to spend MY money. 1) I have never said that people can't spend their money however they want to. Don't like CTD's business decision and want to spend your money elsewhere? More power to you. 2) People yelling "gouging!!!!" are economically wrong. There is no such thing - only a price and someone willing (or not) to pay that price. Two separate issues. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 7:59:13 PM EDT
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1) I have never said that people can't spend their money however they want to. Don't like CTD's business decision and want to spend your money elsewhere? More power to you. 2) People yelling "gouging!!!!" are economically wrong. There is no such thing - only a price and someone willing (or not) to pay that price. Two separate issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, CTD can do as they've done, and some folks (like me), can choose to say "f*&k CTD" because that's what I want to say. Others can support them vehemently for whatever reason they choose. Beyond this, who gives a flying shit? In sum, and call me irrational if you like, but I say, "F*&k CTD." When you pay my bills then you can tell me how and where to spend MY money.
1) I have never said that people can't spend their money however they want to. Don't like CTD's business decision and want to spend your money elsewhere? More power to you. 2) People yelling "gouging!!!!" are economically wrong. There is no such thing - only a price and someone willing (or not) to pay that price. Two separate issues. I'll agree with you for the most part. However, there is such a thing as "gouging" as defined by our government. Right or wrong is debatable, but defined none the less. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:47:51 PM EDT
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I live on the Gulf Coast and have been through price hikes right before and after a hurricane. My solution is to buy an $800 generator before it becomes a $1300+ genarator, stock up on canned goods and other non-perishable items like bottled water, as well as damage control supplies like plywood. It's just something you do to be prepared when you live this close to the water. I'm not saying I agree with prices skyrocketing due to supply and demand but I also don't think it's right for the government to be able to control what once was a free market.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:17:24 PM EDT
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At one point, this was about C.T.D. folding up their stores.
Back to the topic... I remember when C.T.D. was just starting out and had a couple of Tables at the Old Austin Colusium at Town Lake ... I remember walking those old wooden floors wondering between the vendors. I remember the old guy who ran the tables was actually a pretty nice fellow and willing to put up with my noob questions. Sadly, I remember passing up $89 SKS No detachable mags, $139 MAC-90s (they were dorky with the thumbhole stock) and $89 cases of Chi-Com Copperwash Steel Core 7.62x39 on steel stripper clips (it was corrosive)... Oh hindsite, why so 20/20??? BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:34:27 PM EDT
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I live on the Gulf Coast and have been through price hikes right before and after a hurricane. My solution is to buy an $800 generator before it becomes a $1300+ genarator, stock up on canned goods and other non-perishable items like bottled water, as well as damage control supplies like plywood. It's just something you do to be prepared when you live this close to the water. I'm not saying I agree with prices skyrocketing due to supply and demand but I also don't think it's right for the government to be able to control what once was a free market. I grew up in earthquake country. At least with a hurricane you have a warning to get prepared. Earthquake no such luck. I carried a back pack with enough to get by for 2-3 days in my truck so if I had to walk home. At home I had enough supplies rotated in to last for 3 weeks if there was an issue with water and power getting back on. In the '89 quake I had just driven through the Cypress structure when it collapsed, scary thing to see in your rear view mirror. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:35:54 PM EDT
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Think too many people jumped into the gun industry the last several years to try to make some money with the Obama panic buying sprees. Now the market has bottomed out a bit and the market is flooded. Everyone and their mother makes AR's now and there seem to be a lot more gun stores now. I passed by a gun store today in Cedar Park and they had a guy out on the street holding one of those big arrow signs with "Gun Store" printed on it. Don't think I've ever seen a gun store go to that level to try to get customers in the door. He just opened up in that location, has done gun shows for years. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:38:09 PM EDT
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So basically, you can get a P-mag or 1/2 a P-mag?
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Texas: I am disappoint. I was actually unaware we're pandering to morons and passed a law like that.
Texas isn't the only state with such laws. They are geared more towards incidents like natural disasters and emergencies where people are in serious need of certain items. Would you like it if there was a disaster in your area to where there was no electricity and no drinking water and the local stores started charging prices so high for water and gas that you could no longer afford them for your family because you weren't as rich as some of the other people in town? Or how about plywood to board up your home for a hurricane that is coming? Should Home Depot/Lowes/McCoys start charging $500 per sheet of plywood because they know the demand has now skyrocketed? Sure, some rich people with expensive homes would pay that much if needed, but what about everyone else? In that case it's not an issue of there being a low supply, that would just be taking advantage of a serious need of local people. That kind of price gouging is much different than what some people allege against companies like CTD. Gun parts & ammo are things we may want, but not things we need, especially during buying sprees that were self inflicted by gun owners. It is the idiot neckbeards that cleaned out all the supplies after getting all jacked up by the media and the retards on the internet. The one place CTD really screwed up was on ELECTION night '08 pulling the sight down and going up the new prices..I was like yeah let's fan the flames!! I thought it was more stupidity than gouging. That night NO ONE NEEDED a new P Mag! Wanta raise the price, then sit on them.
If there was a real panic, go to retail price and limit the buyer to 3-4 mags a week, that would stop the neckbeard from maxing out his credit card and cleaning out a supplier that may not get anymore supplies in for a couple of months. As far as real gouging, if I owned a gas station especially on say a hurricane evacuation route, it would be illegal to raise a gallon of gas from say $3 to $30 a gallon, but as I read the law I could limit everyone to say a 10 gallon purchase at $3 a gallon. That way 'everyone' has a chance at some gas. I never hated CTD, I bought if they had what I wanted at a price close to what I could buy it for elsewhere. Last year CTD was very generous at many of the big 3 gun matches, I got quite a few $50 gift cards of the prize table, I did appreciated that. In my opinion what happened was the stores especially the Round Rock store was in a pretty 'high rent' shopping center, and they spent a lot remodeling the insides for a very nice store, but playing the help, rent etc. is rough competing against internet 'stores' that are in a warehouse or some one's garage. So basically, you can get a P-mag or 1/2 a P-mag?
I bought a couple cases of the slugs I like.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live on the Gulf Coast and have been through price hikes right before and after a hurricane. My solution is to buy an $800 generator before it becomes a $1300+ genarator, stock up on canned goods and other non-perishable items like bottled water, as well as damage control supplies like plywood. It's just something you do to be prepared when you live this close to the water. I'm not saying I agree with prices skyrocketing due to supply and demand but I also don't think it's right for the government to be able to control what once was a free market. Preparation is for suckers. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:45:34 PM EDT
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I don't give a shit if CTD prices a Pmag at $100. I do care if someone is trying to sell me a $20 bottle of water. You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. No, he (and some others) would rather have the water convenient and available at a price that he thinks/believes is reasonable, no matter what the sellers cost to have it on hand or replace it is. You would be wrong. Then why do you care if someone tries to sell you a bottle of water for $20? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:49:44 PM EDT
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I don't give a shit if CTD prices a Pmag at $100. I do care if someone is trying to sell me a $20 bottle of water. You're thinking about this the wrong way. If you need water, would you rather that water not be available at any price? Because the alternative, to fix prices, means that there won't be a bottle of water for you to buy at all. History has been very clear about this in state controlled economies - when you do not inflate prices during scarcity or high demand, you have shortages. No, he (and some others) would rather have the water convenient and available at a price that he thinks/believes is reasonable, no matter what the sellers cost to have it on hand or replace it is. You would be wrong. Then why do you care if someone tries to sell you a bottle of water for $20? During hurricanes, Wal-Mart doesn't increase their prices at all and ships additional quantities of supplies before the storm hits. I don't think it cost Wal-Mart a penny more to ship supplies three days before a hurricane than it does any other day of the year. If you are happy paying $20 for a bottle of water then bless your heart. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:09:18 PM EDT
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I can only imagine the butt hurt that would result from wally world charging $20 for a bottle of water. It would be main stream news nationwide, odummer would make a statement about "price gouging", pass some new law regulating prices as well as how much you could buy and BOOM, we're full on communism.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During hurricanes, Wal-Mart doesn't increase their prices at all and ships additional quantities of supplies before the storm hits. I don't think it cost Wal-Mart a penny more to ship supplies three days before a hurricane than it does any other day of the year. If you are happy paying $20 for a bottle of water then bless your heart. Nobody is happy paying $20 for a bottle of water - unless they were too stupid to prep and it's the only bottle left. In that case, $20 might be a pretty good deal. Under your scenario, of course, there would be no more water because, gouging. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:05:01 PM EDT
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I can only imagine the butt hurt that would result from wally world charging $20 for a bottle of water.. This is one of the reasons nobody bothered to help the folks at the New Orleans Convention Center during Katrina. Easier to do nothing, then risk getting sued, arrested, ridiculed, whatever. Some died, too bad, so sad. Geraldo had water, Shep had water. But sell them water, NFW that is price gouging or cruel. FSA or die. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:39:33 PM EDT
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This sucks - they only opened in December and they closed in mid-July apparently. 
I know there's a lot of CTD hate here, but I enjoyed having more selection. If the prices are too high, I won't buy. The best thing is that their catalog prices for accessories were great, and you could order from the store and have it shipped to your home for FREE. This really sucks and I'm sad they're gone. The only thing I can figure is that corporate expanded too quickly and had money problems. The store in Lewisville closed a few months ago. Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This sucks - they only opened in December and they closed in mid-July apparently. I know there's a lot of CTD hate here, but I enjoyed having more selection. If the prices are too high, I won't buy. The best thing is that their catalog prices for accessories were great, and you could order from the store and have it shipped to your home for FREE. This really sucks and I'm sad they're gone. The only thing I can figure is that corporate expanded too quickly and had money problems. The store in Lewisville closed a few months ago. Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. Thanks for your well-thought out response. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:48:49 PM EDT
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Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This sucks - they only opened in December and they closed in mid-July apparently.
I know there's a lot of CTD hate here, but I enjoyed having more selection. If the prices are too high, I won't buy. The best thing is that their catalog prices for accessories were great, and you could order from the store and have it shipped to your home for FREE. This really sucks and I'm sad they're gone. The only thing I can figure is that corporate expanded too quickly and had money problems. The store in Lewisville closed a few months ago. Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. Have you read ANY of the posts in this thread? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:11:03 PM EDT
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Nobody is happy paying $20 for a bottle of water - unless they were too stupid to prep and it's the only bottle left. In that case, $20 might be a pretty good deal. Under your scenario, of course, there would be no more water because, gouging. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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During hurricanes, Wal-Mart doesn't increase their prices at all and ships additional quantities of supplies before the storm hits. I don't think it cost Wal-Mart a penny more to ship supplies three days before a hurricane than it does any other day of the year. If you are happy paying $20 for a bottle of water then bless your heart. Nobody is happy paying $20 for a bottle of water - unless they were too stupid to prep and it's the only bottle left. In that case, $20 might be a pretty good deal. Under your scenario, of course, there would be no more water because, gouging. It called reality, not a scenario. Price gouging is minimized because: 1. It's illegal and they'll lose their product and face prosecution if they get caught. 2. People prepare 3. Businesses prepare WalMart positions hundreds of trailers packed with batteries, food, water and other essentials at their stores. I counted 26 semi trailers in a WM parking lot in Baton Rouge back in 1998. Inside the store the front aisle was packed with shopping carts full of those supplies. No one in BR could complain about lack of supplies or price gouging. All those essential items were priced normally or in some cases LESS than the usual price. Other retailers did the same, but not to the extent WalMart did. I'm sure part of that was practice for quick stocking of FEMA Camps. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:14:59 PM EDT
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This is one of the reasons nobody bothered to help the folks at the New Orleans Convention Center during Katrina. If I remember right, there was no way other than boats or helicopters to get supplies to those folks. Quite likely anyone taking a boatload of water to sell at the convention center or Superdome would have had his water taken from him and lost his boat. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:19:10 PM EDT
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If I remember right, there was no way other than boats or helicopters to get supplies to those folks. Quite likely anyone taking a boatload of water to sell at the convention center or Superdome would have had his water taken from him and lost his boat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is one of the reasons nobody bothered to help the folks at the New Orleans Convention Center during Katrina. If I remember right, there was no way other than boats or helicopters to get supplies to those folks. Quite likely anyone taking a boatload of water to sell at the convention center or Superdome would have had his water taken from him and lost his boat. Fox News remote truck with Geraldo (and other networks) was able to get there and do interviews 2 days before the .mil showed up. Hence why we saw all the video. FSA Fail, FEMA Fail, etc. Agree on getting robbed of your stuff. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: <snip> I give up. There's just no reaching some people. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 5:56:20 PM EDT
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<snip> I give up. There's just no reaching some people. My aren't you the sainted one. If you'll do a search of threads where someone bitches about "CTD gouging" you'll note that I've posted replies that disagreed (just like in this one) The people you need to reach are those who passed the law. You can bitch all day about me, but I'm just the messenger. Until a day or so ago you were wholly and completely ignorant of Texas law regarding price gouging. In your fervor to "reach some people" you are still blind to the fucking law that says Yes, Virginia, there IS Price Gouging. Your argument that there is no such concept as gouging is as silly as the Silencer vs Suppressor argument. Like it or not, good law or not.....it's the law. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 6:33:56 PM EDT
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Thanks for your well-thought out response.
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This sucks - they only opened in December and they closed in mid-July apparently.
I know there's a lot of CTD hate here, but I enjoyed having more selection. If the prices are too high, I won't buy. The best thing is that their catalog prices for accessories were great, and you could order from the store and have it shipped to your home for FREE. This really sucks and I'm sad they're gone. The only thing I can figure is that corporate expanded too quickly and had money problems. The store in Lewisville closed a few months ago. Or another possibility is fuck CTD. I'll never forgive their gouging people on mags when our great messiah was elected. Thanks for your well-thought out response.
How much more thought does one need on the subject? Does it take a financial expert to bloviate that you're being ripped off? CTD has every right to triple their prices during a crisis situation just as many people and myself have every right not to give them our money when the crisis is over. Fuck um'. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much more thought does one need on the subject? Does it take a financial expert to bloviate that you're being ripped off? CTD has every right to triple their prices during a crisis situation just as many people and myself have every right not to give them our money when the crisis is over. Fuck um'. RIF
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:23:08 PM EDT
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How much more thought does one need on the subject? Does it take a financial expert to bloviate that you're being ripped off? CTD has every right to triple their prices during a crisis situation just as many people and myself have every right not to give them our money when the crisis is over. Fuck um'. RIF Again, nothing to read into it. CTD did what they did when FBHO was elected, the people did what they did, that is not patronize them afterwards and they went out of business. No fucks given. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 8:07:15 PM EDT
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EVEN during the eary 1990's CTD made lots of larger gun shows. I had tables for 3 years and the guy was the rudest asshole in the shows. I think he was middle or upper management and thus reflected the "corporate attitude" towards customers and the world in general. I never bought ANYTHING from CTD for that reason.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:33:05 PM EDT
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No one has mentioned the fact that Bass Pro Shops also just opened a couple miles up I-35 about two weeks ago. Maybe CTD just decided to cut their losses in Round Rock (but that wouldn't explain the McKinney store).
Once all the dust had settled from the Bass Pro opening, I figured it would be them and CTD left standing. Figured Gander Mountain would be closing its doors, which is a ghost town every time I've set foot in it (plus, I think that building is jinxed). RSY |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:37:40 PM EDT
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No one has mentioned the fact that Bass Pro Shops also just opened a couple miles up I-35 about two weeks ago. Maybe CTD just decided to cut their losses in Round Rock (but that wouldn't explain the McKinney store). Once all the dust had settled from the Bass Pro opening, I figured it would be them and CTD left standing. Figured Gander Mountain would be closing its doors, which is a ghost town every time I've set foot in it (plus, I think that building is jinxed). RSY Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shops are both place other than gun people will shop, shoes, clothes fishing gear etc. Also with the opening of Bass Pro shops Gander Mountain has gotten pretty aggressive advertising. Gander Mountain also has some reloading supplies now. Gander Mountain also never did anything pretty stupid like Dick's and CTD. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 9:44:22 PM EDT
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Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shops are both place other than gun people will shop, shoes, clothes fishing gear etc. Also with the opening of Bass Pro shops Gander Mountain has gotten pretty aggressive advertising. Gander Mountain also has some reloading supplies now. Gander Mountain also never did anything pretty stupid like Dick's and CTD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one has mentioned the fact that Bass Pro Shops also just opened a couple miles up I-35 about two weeks ago. Maybe CTD just decided to cut their losses in Round Rock (but that wouldn't explain the McKinney store). Once all the dust had settled from the Bass Pro opening, I figured it would be them and CTD left standing. Figured Gander Mountain would be closing its doors, which is a ghost town every time I've set foot in it (plus, I think that building is jinxed). RSY Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shops are both place other than gun people will shop, shoes, clothes fishing gear etc. Also with the opening of Bass Pro shops Gander Mountain has gotten pretty aggressive advertising. Gander Mountain also has some reloading supplies now. Gander Mountain also never did anything pretty stupid like Dick's and CTD. Well, I think Gander Mountain's gun prices approach stupid, and CTD handily beat them on pretty much everything. On a positive note, looks like Academy is starting to sell some reloading supplies. Best, RSY |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:44:01 AM EDT
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so a company that canceled orders, and relisted the product at a higher price, supported anti gun acts, lied to customers is closing one of their stores?
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:41:28 PM EDT
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You know what I would do, as a store owner with full tanks of fuel/water etc and price gouging laws went into effect? I would shut it down and lock it up,
OR I would sell it at regular price to my friends. CtD did nothing wrong. Companies that sold stuff at regular price saw all of their ammo, mags and black rifles fly off the shelves, then had NOTHING to sell for months. CtD had stuff to sell at MARKET price. They did just fine. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:49:31 PM EDT
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You know what I would do, as a store owner with full tanks of fuel/water etc and price gouging laws went into effect? I would shut it down and lock it up, OR I would sell it at regular price to my friends. CtD did nothing wrong. Companies that sold stuff at regular price saw all of their ammo, mags and black rifles fly off the shelves, then had NOTHING to sell for months. CtD had stuff to sell at MARKET price. They did just fine. This is why I don't understand the butthurt over CTD. People always had the choice to buy from all the other vendors. Plenty of places sell P-Mags and ammo. |
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