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Posted: 3/28/2015 3:03:33 PM EDT
Just watched the last episode of Vice and it showed a dept of Homeland security list that has "patriot groups" as 3rd. The reporting was that these groups are people who help secure the border and were part of that Bundy cattle thing awhile back. (Info here Thought it was kinda wierd to see them that high up when known ISIS camps are left to grow on our own soil right here in Texas.
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Posted: 3/28/2015 3:34:13 PM EDT
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Just watched the last episode of Vice and it showed a dept of Homeland security list that has "patriot groups" as 3rd. The reporting was that these groups are people who help secure the border and were part of that cattle thing awhile back. Thought it was kinda wierd to see them that high up when known ISIS camps are left to grow on our own soil right here in Texas. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20150321_175907_zpsxew0kbt9.jpg You know that's why removing firearms from law-abiding citizens is one of the most important agendas for both parties in Congress--for Republican: control, for Democrat: outright ban. Domestic control of the sovereign citizens is much more important than some isolated terrorism incidents from ISIS since the masses with firearms can created massive problems to the govt and ISIS can't. My 2 cents... |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 4:36:00 PM EDT
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Couldn't #4 and 5 be considered the same thing?
I wonder what number ghetto goblins and cartel enforcers are. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 11:39:06 AM EDT
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They're talking about groups like the Christian Patriots...
They're white supremacists who subscribe to the idea of the illuminati. Please do read about them. They're the Christian version of groups that utilize jihadist salafism. These are domestic terrorist groups. Has nothing to do with liberals trying to take arms away from law abiding citizens. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 12:49:31 PM EDT
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You know that's why removing firearms from law-abiding citizens is one of the most important agendas for both parties in Congress--for Republican: control, for Democrat: outright ban. Domestic control of the sovereign citizens is much more important than some isolated terrorism incidents from ISIS since the masses with firearms can created massive problems to the govt and ISIS can't. My 2 cents... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just watched the last episode of Vice and it showed a dept of Homeland security list that has "patriot groups" as 3rd. The reporting was that these groups are people who help secure the border and were part of that cattle thing awhile back. Thought it was kinda wierd to see them that high up when known ISIS camps are left to grow on our own soil right here in Texas. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20150321_175907_zpsxew0kbt9.jpg You know that's why removing firearms from law-abiding citizens is one of the most important agendas for both parties in Congress--for Republican: control, for Democrat: outright ban. Domestic control of the sovereign citizens is much more important than some isolated terrorism incidents from ISIS since the masses with firearms can created massive problems to the govt and ISIS can't. My 2 cents... Glad to see someone else gets it!!! |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 2:06:10 PM EDT
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I saw part of that episode, have it recorded to watch the entire thing. But I saw that list they posted and was rather surprised how they have it ranked. Hell I would think the Mexican drug cartels operating in the US or along the border are more of a threat than some of those. They showed the IRS building in Austin on fire that the guy flew his plane into a few years ago like they were lumping him into the militia/patriot group or sovereign citizen group, yet he was just a whack job that lost his marbles. They need a change "sovereign citizen" category to "insane nut job" as that seems more appropriate.
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Posted: 3/29/2015 2:12:58 PM EDT
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I saw part of that episode, have it recorded to watch the entire thing. But I saw that list they posted and was rather surprised how they have it ranked. Hell I would think the Mexican drug cartels operating in the US or along the border are more of a threat than some of those. They showed the IRS building in Austin on fire that the guy flew his plane into a few years ago like they were lumping him into the militia/patriot group or sovereign citizen group, yet he was just a whack job that lost his marbles. They need a change "sovereign citizen" category to "insane nut job" as that seems more appropriate. Agree. It does show how the gov is looking more inward than outward, that was my point of showing it. I dont see them being white supremist though As the poster above stated. Even on the interview of the reporter she says they allow any group except Muslims. you tube debrief |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 4:20:37 PM EDT
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Taylor R., Swanson C. Terrorism, Intelligence, and Homeland Security (2016). |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:24:30 AM EDT
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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/hopesfell/1_zpsuftrayst.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/hopesfell/2_zpskfxfsbwe.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/hopesfell/3_zpspkatquq1.jpg Taylor R., Swanson C. Terrorism, Intelligence, and Homeland Security (2016). That looks way too much like a 6th grade textbook. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:36:04 AM EDT
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That looks way too much like a 6th grade textbook. Must say something you don't like... It's a senior level collegiate text; but, thanks for trying to discredit it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:04:02 PM EDT
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Must say something you don't like... It's a senior level collegiate text; but, thanks for trying to discredit it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That looks way too much like a 6th grade textbook. Must say something you don't like... It's a senior level collegiate text; but, thanks for trying to discredit it. LoL even worse. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 12:37:52 PM EDT
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LoL even worse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That looks way too much like a 6th grade textbook. Must say something you don't like... It's a senior level collegiate text; but, thanks for trying to discredit it. LoL even worse. Ya so much worse than YouTube and HBO! Actual academic discourse.... Terrible! |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 7:45:49 AM EDT
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Couldn't #4 and 5 be considered the same thing? I wonder what number ghetto goblins and cartel enforcers are. Ghetto goblins and cartel enforcers are not on the list. They are not a threat to government but rather an aid to government. They create fear in most citizens and make the population more likely to support bigger and more powerful government. Now, I'll take off my tinfoil hat. BTW I wondered the same thing you did about 4 and 5. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:27:29 PM EDT
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They're talking about groups like the Christian Patriots... They're white supremacists who subscribe to the idea of the illuminati. Please do read about them. They're the Christian version of groups that utilize jihadist salafism. These are domestic terrorist groups. Has nothing to do with liberals trying to take arms away from law abiding citizens. 13ers. Txl |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 7:12:23 PM EDT
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They are #1 on my list, #2 is those PETA idiots. Haven't had a Hadji shoot at me in years and even then they did not stand much of a chance.
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Posted: 3/31/2015 7:25:04 PM EDT
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They are #1 on my list, #2 is those PETA idiots. Haven't had a Hadji shoot at me in years and even then they did not stand much of a chance. So you've had a patriot group or a person from that group shoot at you here? |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 10:48:49 PM EDT
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Interesting. I didn't realize that it was patriots and sovereign citizens who shot up Ft. Hood, beheaded a woman in Oklahoma, bombed the Boston Marathon and attacked police in NYC with a hatchet. But even with all those Christian tin foil Illuminati types out there, I still would have thought that crashing jet liners into sky scrapers and posting the names and addresses of military personnel they want dead, and plotting to shoot the president would have boosted Islamic jihadists to the top of the list.
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Posted: 4/1/2015 12:20:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. I didn't realize that it was patriots and sovereign citizens who shot up Ft. Hood, beheaded a woman in Oklahoma, bombed the Boston Marathon and attacked police in NYC with a hatchet. But even with all those Christian tin foil Illuminati types out there, I still would have thought that crashing jet liners into sky scrapers and posting the names and addresses of military personnel they want dead, and plotting to shoot the president would have boosted Islamic jihadists to the top of the list. Aye. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 10:00:56 AM EDT
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Interesting. I didn't realize that it was patriots and sovereign citizens who shot up Ft. Hood, beheaded a woman in Oklahoma, bombed the Boston Marathon and attacked police in NYC with a hatchet. But even with all those Christian tin foil Illuminati types out there, I still would have thought that crashing jet liners into sky scrapers and posting the names and addresses of military personnel they want dead, and plotting to shoot the president would have boosted Islamic jihadists to the top of the list. You would think. But that would mean that the primary and most serious threat to the US was external to ts borders, and do you think the Department of HOMELAND Security would pay somebody to say that? It is necessary to find threat internal to the US to justify more budget. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 3:17:32 PM EDT
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13ers. Txl Guess you're one of those that puts their arfcom join date on their resume as if it means something. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 3:28:34 PM EDT
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Guess you're one of those that puts their arfcom join date on their resume as if it means something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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13ers. Txl Guess you're one of those that puts their arfcom join date on their resume as if it means something. Go troll and stroke your ego somewhere else. Dont get this thread locked |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 4:26:15 PM EDT
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So you've had a patriot group or a person from that group shoot at you here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are #1 on my list, #2 is those PETA idiots. Haven't had a Hadji shoot at me in years and even then they did not stand much of a chance. So you've had a patriot group or a person from that group shoot at you here? Yep. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 6:04:24 PM EDT
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They are #1 on my list, #2 is those PETA idiots. Haven't had a Hadji shoot at me in years and even then they did not stand much of a chance. So you've had a patriot group or a person from that group shoot at you here? Yep. Bet that was hairy. Can you give some details on how you came to get involved with them and what happened? |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 6:28:58 PM EDT
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Personally, I think SC is just a very convenient negative connotation label.
The handful who call themselves that tend to be scumbag thieves or harmless kooks. So the label becomes an effective tool to marginalize anyone the Feds target. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 10:07:43 PM EDT
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Go troll and stroke your ego somewhere else. Dont get this thread locked My reading material I spent my own time posting up here for others to read gets called 6th gradish... Then I get called a 13'er... And I'm the troll? Ok bro, logic! |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 12:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My reading material I spent my own time posting up here for others to read gets called 6th gradish... Then I get called a 13'er... And I'm the troll? Ok bro, logic! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go troll and stroke your ego somewhere else. Dont get this thread locked My reading material I spent my own time posting up here for others to read gets called 6th gradish... Then I get called a 13'er... And I'm the troll? Ok bro, logic! Relax. Everyone here is an expert on everything. These are all good people in real life. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 6:09:26 AM EDT
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Just watched the last episode of Vice and it showed a dept of Homeland security list that has "patriot groups" as 3rd. The reporting was that these groups are people who help secure the border and were part of that Bundy cattle thing awhile back. (Info here Thought it was kinda wierd to see them that high up when known ISIS camps are left to grow on our own soil right here in Texas. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20150321_175907_zpsxew0kbt9.jpg ISIS camps in Texas? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:01:39 AM EDT
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ISIS camps in Texas? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just watched the last episode of Vice and it showed a dept of Homeland security list that has "patriot groups" as 3rd. The reporting was that these groups are people who help secure the border and were part of that Bundy cattle thing awhile back. (Info here Thought it was kinda wierd to see them that high up when known ISIS camps are left to grow on our own soil right here in Texas. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20150321_175907_zpsxew0kbt9.jpg ISIS camps in Texas? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Uhh yea, check it out. snip "The FBI describes the MOA compound in Texas, called Mahmoudberg, as an enclave and “communal living site.” Located in Brazoria County along County Road 3 near Sweeny, Texas, it was discovered more than 10 years ago by the FBI through a tip from an informant in New York, according to a 2014 article by the Clarion Project. The Texas commune, in a heavily wooded area, is estimated by a local resident to encompass about 25 acres." |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:14:48 AM EDT
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Another snip:
"But Freeport Police Chief Dan Pennington was recently there. The best description would be just a trailer park in the country, he said. The visit followed a series of scathing online articles about the community which cite declassified FBI documents and allege that the site is part of an Islamic terrorist training network. The view from the road, however, is underwhelming. Kids can be seen playing, chickens roam free, and nothing appears to be out of sorts. Neighbors across the street say the commune has been there for years, and that they have never had problems. They help us, we help them, neighbor Charlotte Broussard said. I just don t understand why people want to start crap like that. As for the FBI documents, Chief Pennington has yet to see them. We've spoken with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force. There s just nothing out there, he said. They tell us that there s no credible information about that site in terrorism." Interesting though, I had never even heard about the commune till I read this thread. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:37:20 AM EDT
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Another snip: "But Freeport Police Chief Dan Pennington was recently there. The best description would be just a trailer park in the country, he said. The visit followed a series of scathing online articles about the community which cite declassified FBI documents and allege that the site is part of an Islamic terrorist training network. The view from the road, however, is underwhelming. Kids can be seen playing, chickens roam free, and nothing appears to be out of sorts. Neighbors across the street say the commune has been there for years, and that they have never had problems. They help us, we help them, neighbor Charlotte Broussard said. I just don t understand why people want to start crap like that. As for the FBI documents, Chief Pennington has yet to see them. We've spoken with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force. There s just nothing out there, he said. They tell us that there s no credible information about that site in terrorism." Interesting though, I had never even heard about the commune till I read this thread. Thats wierd. Cant find that pic of the isis guy at the store. What ever came of that guy and the one arrested outside a Mosque ? |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 7:44:20 PM EDT
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Another snip: "But Freeport Police Chief Dan Pennington was recently there. The best description would be just a trailer park in the country, he said. The visit followed a series of scathing online articles about the community which cite declassified FBI documents and allege that the site is part of an Islamic terrorist training network. The view from the road, however, is underwhelming. Kids can be seen playing, chickens roam free, and nothing appears to be out of sorts. Neighbors across the street say the commune has been there for years, and that they have never had problems. They help us, we help them, neighbor Charlotte Broussard said. I just don t understand why people want to start crap like that. As for the FBI documents, Chief Pennington has yet to see them. We've spoken with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force. There s just nothing out there, he said. They tell us that there s no credible information about that site in terrorism." Interesting though, I had never even heard about the commune till I read this thread. Just a trailer park in the country? Were they supposed to have a giant military compound with obstacle course, guard towers, dummy airplanes and buildings to practice blowing up their bombs to make sure they stand out and get noticed? lol Cave or mud hut or simple house is all they have needed so far for terrorists to plan out their attacks, trailer park would be a nice upgrade for them I'm sure. Kind of important to blend in I would imagine. 
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