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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2015 5:21:27 PM EDT
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HB989 What is a tire deflation device?
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Posted: 4/12/2015 10:51:24 AM EDT
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If you're patient, your fingernail will work.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 1:50:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kramden:
HB989 What is a tire deflation device? Road spikes like caltrops. They used to be openly at gun shows. That bill is poorly worded, should rely on NFTR or tax stamp, given how inaccurate NFTR is. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 2:10:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RCK1999:
NEWSFLASH: HB910 was brought up in the calendars committee today and has been put on the full house calendar for a 2nd reading on 4/14 
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84r/calendars/html/H120150414.htm What does this mean? When would it get voted on? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lokt:
What does this mean? When would it get voted on? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lokt:
Originally Posted By RCK1999:
NEWSFLASH: HB910 was brought up in the calendars committee today and has been put on the full house calendar for a 2nd reading on 4/14
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84r/calendars/html/H120150414.htm What does this mean? When would it get voted on? I believe it means if it passes it goes to the governor since it is duplicate of the senate bill. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 8:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar15hookem:
I believe it means if it passes it goes to the governor since it is duplicate of the senate bill. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar15hookem:
Originally Posted By lokt:
Originally Posted By RCK1999:
NEWSFLASH: HB910 was brought up in the calendars committee today and has been put on the full house calendar for a 2nd reading on 4/14
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84r/calendars/html/H120150414.htm What does this mean? When would it get voted on? I believe it means if it passes it goes to the governor since it is duplicate of the senate bill. Can someone confirm this? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 9:39:45 PM EDT
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IF the bill text is identical to the Senate (which I believe it is) and IF it passes the House floor without being amended, then there are some procedural steps but for all practical purposes it is going to the Governor's desk. Right now I'd put the chances of HB910 passing very high - better than 98%.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 9:56:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: IF the bill text is identical to the Senate (which I believe it is) and IF it passes the House floor without being amended, then there are some procedural steps but for all practical purposes it is going to the Governor's desk. Right now I'd put the chances of HB910 passing very high - better than 98%. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 10:44:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX:
What do you think the chances of the NFA shall issue bill, HB1179 are? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX:
Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
IF the bill text is identical to the Senate (which I believe it is) and IF it passes the House floor without being amended, then there are some procedural steps but for all practical purposes it is going to the Governor's desk. Right now I'd put the chances of HB910 passing very high - better than 98%. No idea on that one. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 10:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
No idea on that one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
Originally Posted By AlamTX:
Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
IF the bill text is identical to the Senate (which I believe it is) and IF it passes the House floor without being amended, then there are some procedural steps but for all practical purposes it is going to the Governor's desk. Right now I'd put the chances of HB910 passing very high - better than 98%. No idea on that one. HB1179 has gone through committee and is in House Calendars to be schedule for full House floor debate. The problem is its companion bill in the Senate (SB476) has just been scheduled for public hearings in committee (this is not very far along in the Senate side of the process). At this stage, it doesn't look good for HB1179/SB476 to make it through this session. To do so, it needs a really strong "kick in the butt" to speed it up. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 12:14:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
[#11]
What's the drop dead date form the OC bill? June 1? |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 5:21:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR:
What's the drop dead date form the OC bill? June 1? There are a whole bunch of deadlines that start popping up after May 13th. If things follow the normal course of business though, OC will get a second reading and floor vote on April 14th, and a third reading on April 15th. That is more than enough time that deadlines are not an issue for OC. I know TSRA and NRA are working on HB1179 and it got off to a good start, so I wouldn't write it off yet; but realistically, it is a short session and I'll be shocked if we get open carry, campus carry, shall sign and defense to prosecution on top of a constitutional amendment protecting hunting and fishing. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:30:39 AM EDT
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so what are the chances that HB910, assuming the text is identical to the Senate bill, makes it through the second reading and floor debate without amendments?
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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:52:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strizzo:
so what are the chances that HB910, assuming the text is identical to the Senate bill, makes it through the second reading and floor debate without amendments? I think they are pretty good. More importantly, if it did get amended we still have some time for a conference committee to work out the differences. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 1:46:32 PM EDT
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Hoping all these bills get worked out before the end of the session. I will bet there will be a special session or two depending on how many "other" bills don't get done in time.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:10:35 AM EDT
[#16]
So what time is the reading today?
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:29:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MateFrio]
[#17]
Hard to tell. They're covering fluffy stuff now.
Bills they'll be considering. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:03:08 PM EDT
[#18]
So today is the second reading for HB910? That's what the calendar shows.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:11:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: So today is the second reading for HB910? That's what the calendar shows. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:13:59 PM EDT
[#20]
Getting close if you want to jump on the live feed.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Point of order. They're delaying.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:23:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio: Point of order. They're delaying. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:23:58 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. There's that little thing I've been talking about. No way this will actually happen. No fricken way. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:24:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. This is some bullshit! 
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:26:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
This is some bullshit! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
Originally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. This is some bullshit! Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: There's that little thing I've been talking about. No way this will actually happen. No fricken way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: Originally Posted By MateFrio: Point of order. They're delaying. There's that little thing I've been talking about. No way this will actually happen. No fricken way. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:30:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: Originally Posted By ZRAPTOR: Originally Posted By MateFrio: Point of order. They're delaying. This is some bullshit! Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:31:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel:
Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel:
Originally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
Originally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. This is some bullshit! Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. Well aren't you just the bright ray of sunshine 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:33:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
Well aren't you just the bright ray of sunshine Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
Originally Posted By chas_martel:
Originally Posted By ZRAPTOR:
Originally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. This is some bullshit! Perhaps, but it is easy to forecast this will never pass. Well aren't you just the bright ray of sunshine How is acceptance of reality bad compared to everyone giggling at all the hot air being blown up their skirts? What is more likely, OC or no OC? And please take into consideration how Texas has become MORE restrictive recently, for example, we have -in a defacto sense- lost the right to OC long arms. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:40:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Now 11:40am and it's been a long five min.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:44:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bartholomew_Roberts]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX:
I need to order a crystal ball like yours. Thanks for the repetitive "It'll never happen!" spiel. We get it. You doubt it'll happen. Let's try to actually witness reality, now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX:
Originally Posted By chas_martel:
Originally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order. They're delaying. There's that little thing I've been talking about. No way this will actually happen. No fricken way. He's just trolling, badly at that - Nothing new. Neither is the negative nancy bit. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:45:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chas_martel]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio:
Now 11:40am and it's been a long five min. Get used to it. You're gonna be waiting two more years before we have this conversation again. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: Get used to it. You're gonna be waiting two more years before we have this conversation again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chas_martel: Originally Posted By MateFrio: Now 11:40am and it's been a long five min. Get used to it. You're gonna be waiting two more years before we have this conversation again. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:50:16 PM EDT
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Point of order sustained. @#$#
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:51:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio:
Point of order sustained. @#$# What now? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:51:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Now what?
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:52:12 PM EDT
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I didn't catch what the specific objection was, will anyone clarify?
And who was the Rep that brought forth the point of order? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JC_Conn: I didn't catch what the specific objection was, will anyone clarify? And who was the Rep that brought forth the point of order? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio: Martinez? They flew by the points. I'm sure more details will come out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio: Originally Posted By JC_Conn: I didn't catch what the specific objection was, will anyone clarify? And who was the Rep that brought forth the point of order? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: He's just trolling, badly at that - Nothing new. Neither is the negative nancy bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Originally Posted By AlamTX: Originally Posted By chas_martel: Originally Posted By MateFrio: Point of order. They're delaying. There's that little thing I've been talking about. No way this will actually happen. No fricken way. He's just trolling, badly at that - Nothing new. Neither is the negative nancy bit. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:57:13 PM EDT
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UPDATE: A point of order on HB 910 (open carry bill) was just sustained on a technical violation concerning a witness affirmation form. HB 40 (fracking ban) would have met the same fate so it was recommitted to the committee. HB 910 will also go back to committee cure any defects on the witness affirmation forms. So, we will all have to wait and debate this again in a few days.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio:
UPDATE: A point of order on HB 910 (open carry bill) was just sustained on a technical violation concerning a witness affirmation form. HB 40 (fracking ban) would have met the same fate so it was recommitted to the committee. HB 910 will also go back to committee cure any defects on the witness affirmation forms. So, we will all have to wait and debate this again in a few days. 
Thanks for the update. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:00:40 PM EDT
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Seems there was a known glitch in the witness tracking forms online and they waited till this bill to bring it out. I'm sure this will have a domino effect on all pending legislation.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio: UPDATE: A point of order on HB 910 (open carry bill) was just sustained on a technical violation concerning a witness affirmation form. HB 40 (fracking ban) would have met the same fate so it was recommitted to the committee. HB 910 will also go back to committee cure any defects on the witness affirmation forms. So, we will all have to wait and debate this again in a few days. Is it possible to have technical violations brought up every time it comes to the floor? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:49:01 PM EDT
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Looks like the Public Safety committee passed it again and it's going to calendars again.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MateFrio: Looks like the Public Safety committee passed it again and it's going to calendars again. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: That was sooner than I expected. Good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: Originally Posted By MateFrio: Looks like the Public Safety committee passed it again and it's going to calendars again. Some poor intern is going to be high on corrective ink this week.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 2:24:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MateFrio]
[#48]
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Actions.aspx?LegSess=84R&Bill=HB910
[table] </table]> [table]Reported favorably as substituted 04/14/2015 </table]> [table]H Committee substitute considered in committee 04/14/2015 </table]> [table]H Considered in formal meeting 04/14/2015 H Scheduled for formal meeting on . . . 04/14/2015 </table]> [table]H Returned to committee 04/14/2015 11:52 AM </table]> [table]H Point of order sustained 04/14/2015 </table]> [table]H Read 2nd time 04/14/2015 </table]> [table]H Placed on General State Calendar 04/14/2015 </table]> |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 3:16:24 PM EDT
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Before debate could begin on open carry, Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer, D-San Antonio, raised a successful point of order arguing that there were mistakes in a listing of how witnesses testified during an earlier public hearing on House Bill 910. Martinez Fischer later said he was philosophically opposed to the bill and was taking every opportunity possible to delay or stop it. I think this is irresponsible. raising a point of order arguement on a known computer defect should not have stopped this from being voted on. That asshole needs to be voted out of office! |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 3:23:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RCK1999]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By roadrnr:
I think this is irresponsible. raising a point of order arguement on a known computer defect should not have stopped this from being voted on. That asshole needs to be voted out of office! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By roadrnr:
Before debate could begin on open carry, Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer, D-San Antonio, raised a successful point of order arguing that there were mistakes in a listing of how witnesses testified during an earlier public hearing on House Bill 910. Martinez Fischer later said he was philosophically opposed to the bill and was taking every opportunity possible to delay or stop it. I think this is irresponsible. raising a point of order arguement on a known computer defect should not have stopped this from being voted on. That asshole needs to be voted out of office! Someone else made the comment that as he raised this computer glitch, he offered to withdraw it if his ammendment was accepted that blocks out of state CHL be disqualified from OC in Texas. This "deal" was rejected. What an ass. Sure am glad I left San Antonio 15 years ago. SA is getting as bad as Austin.
Fortunately the glitch has been fixed, and HB910 is back in Calendars for a reschedule to the full floor. ETA: one should note that this glitch was not unique to HB910, but rather affected many bills. |
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