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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:18:52 PM EDT
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We traveled to Dallas this weekend and stayed at the Embassy Suites on Stemmons. I am new to concealed carry so I still have a lot to learn and we don't travel all the time, so I was very surprised to see a 30.06 sign at each entrance. So, I obviously cannot concealed carry on my person, but can I take my firearm up to my room in my luggage? Is carrying a firearm in your luggage or even a gun case considered concealed carry? I had never given this scenario a thought before. Another confusing thing, there was another sign posted only at the front entrance on the sliding glass door. This sign said "The unlicensed possession of a weapon on these premises is a felony with a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and a fine not to exceed $10,000." What exactly is an unlicensed possession? The only license I know of is a concealed carry license, so all in all I am very confused about what to do in this situation. I feel uncomfortable leaving my firearm in the car, but I felt like I had no choice Sorry your instructor did a poor job Regarding the 30.06 sign, you do not need a CHL to carry your handgun to and from your vehicle and hotel room. Texas penal code 46.02 covers that. You do need a CHL to carry that handgun around the hotel like to the restaurant, etc. Be aware that a handgun in your luggage can be "about your person" and subject to 46.02 and 30.06. So you can carry at your hotel to and from the car and room, but due to the 30.06 posting you may not carry just around inside. Unlicensed possession is just that. Possession without a license. The sign you saw is required under the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code at all locations licensed by the TABC that sell alcohol and are not 51% locations. Do not leave your handgun in the car. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:33:49 PM EDT
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Were you informed of their policy when you made the reservation?
SUBCHAPTER C. FIREARMS POLICY NOTICE
Sec. 2155.101. DEFINITION. In this subchapter, "hotel" has the meaning assigned by Section 156.001, Tax Code. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. Sec. 2155.102. APPLICABILITY OF SUBCHAPTER. This subchapter applies only to a hotel that has a policy prohibiting or restricting the possession, storage, or transportation of firearms by hotel guests. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. Sec. 2155.103. NOTICE REGARDING FIREARMS POLICY. (a) A hotel shall include on the hotel's Internet reservation website the hotel's policy regarding the possession, storage, and transportation of firearms. (b) If a hotel provides a written confirmation or a written statement of terms and conditions to a consumer after accepting the consumer's hotel reservation by telephone, the hotel shall include information specifying how the consumer may review applicable guest policies. The guest policies must indicate the hotel's policy regarding the possession, storage, and transportation of firearms by guests. (c) A hotel owner or keeper commits an offense if the person does not comply with this section. An offense under this subsection is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $100. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/OC/htm/OC.2155.htm#C |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Were you informed of their policy when you made the reservation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Were you informed of their policy when you made the reservation? SUBCHAPTER C. FIREARMS POLICY NOTICE
Sec. 2155.101. DEFINITION. In this subchapter, "hotel" has the meaning assigned by Section 156.001, Tax Code. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. Sec. 2155.102. APPLICABILITY OF SUBCHAPTER. This subchapter applies only to a hotel that has a policy prohibiting or restricting the possession, storage, or transportation of firearms by hotel guests. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. Sec. 2155.103. NOTICE REGARDING FIREARMS POLICY. (a) A hotel shall include on the hotel's Internet reservation website the hotel's policy regarding the possession, storage, and transportation of firearms. (b) If a hotel provides a written confirmation or a written statement of terms and conditions to a consumer after accepting the consumer's hotel reservation by telephone, the hotel shall include information specifying how the consumer may review applicable guest policies. The guest policies must indicate the hotel's policy regarding the possession, storage, and transportation of firearms by guests. (c) A hotel owner or keeper commits an offense if the person does not comply with this section. An offense under this subsection is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $100. Added by Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 237 (H.B. 333), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2013. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/OC/htm/OC.2155.htm#C You realize that none of that negates the criminal statutes, right? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 7:19:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: We traveled to Dallas this weekend and stayed at the Embassy Suites on Stemmons. I am new to concealed carry so I still have a lot to learn and we don't travel all the time, so I was very surprised to see a 30.06 sign at each entrance. So, I obviously cannot concealed carry on my person, but can I take my firearm up to my room in my luggage? Is carrying a firearm in your luggage or even a gun case considered concealed carry? I had never given this scenario a thought before. Another confusing thing, there was another sign posted only at the front entrance on the sliding glass door. This sign said "The unlicensed possession of a weapon on these premises is a felony with a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and a fine not to exceed $10,000." What exactly is an unlicensed possession? The only license I know of is a concealed carry license, so all in all I am very confused about what to do in this situation. I feel uncomfortable leaving my firearm in the car, but I felt like I had no choice As was stated, they are required to tell you of their gun-free-zone and I believe this is important to know because I wouldn't have booked a room there myself, and I dont carry under a CHL. I think they know they will lose business, and intentionally don't post it. I refuse to stay in gun free zones.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:34:32 AM EDT
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You realize that none of that negates the criminal statutes, right? Yes, I do realize that a hotel violating § 2155.103 of the Occupations Code doesn't allow the OP to violate § 30.06 of the Penal Code. It does sound like the hotel was in violation though given the circumstances the OP described. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 8:48:44 AM EDT
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I believe the hotel the OP stayed at is in violation of § 2155.103 of the Occupations Code. Here is a snippet from one of their San Antonio properties:
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Carrying a weapon on these premises is prohibited and violators may be subject to arrest for trespass under applicable law. http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/hotels/texas/embassy-suites-san-antonio-nw-i-10-SATBRES/about/policies.html The corresponding page for the hotel the OP stayed at is silent on the matter of firearms: http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/hotels/texas/embassy-suites-dallas-market-center-DALFWES/about/policies.html You might want to check the following web site when making reservations in the future OP: http://www.texas3006.com |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:43:30 AM EDT
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become...
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:53:41 AM EDT
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:05:37 AM EDT
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Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:50:37 AM EDT
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. This was a new piece of legislation from last year. It has nothing to do with 30.06, but rather notice of trespass. If you are notified and found NOT in compliance, you would be removed based on trespass. Trespass has always been there. What was new was the requirement to give notice at time of reservation. What REALLY sucks is if they give the notice AFTER you finalize the reservation and made your purchase non-refundable. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:06:18 AM EDT
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Are you volunteering to be the test case (in a hotel with 30.06 signs posted)? You might beat the rap, but you probably wouldn't beat the ride. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:22:20 AM EDT
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Find a different hotel.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:30:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you volunteering to be the test case (in a hotel with 30.06 signs posted)? You might beat the rap, but you probably wouldn't beat the ride. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Are you volunteering to be the test case (in a hotel with 30.06 signs posted)? You might beat the rap, but you probably wouldn't beat the ride.  |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:43:30 PM EDT
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But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... So what are you going to do, leave the premises? Your options are limited: 1) Go to room with gun. 2) Leave premises. 3) Leave premises, get rid of gun, come back to hotel. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:57:01 PM EDT
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Actually with the new legislation passed last year that is now false. If you have been given notice either by the website, phone, or in person you are now trespassing. I asked this very question back in July and posted my findings including the lawyers comment. Naturally you argued it. I will stick with true legal advice versus your non professional opinion stated as legal fact.
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:16:24 PM EDT
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Getting jiffy pop ready for standard dry legalese, I know more than you do response.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:17:24 PM EDT
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Sorry your instructor did a poor job Regarding the 30.06 sign, you do not need a CHL to carry your handgun to and from your vehicle and hotel room. Texas penal code 46.02 covers that. You do need a CHL to carry that handgun around the hotel like to the restaurant, etc. Be aware that a handgun in your luggage can be "about your person" and subject to 46.02 and 30.06. So you can carry at your hotel to and from the car and room, but due to the 30.06 posting you may not carry just around inside. Unlicensed possession is just that. Possession without a license. The sign you saw is required under the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code at all locations licensed by the TABC that sell alcohol and are not 51% locations. Do not leave your handgun in the car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We traveled to Dallas this weekend and stayed at the Embassy Suites on Stemmons. I am new to concealed carry so I still have a lot to learn and we don't travel all the time, so I was very surprised to see a 30.06 sign at each entrance. So, I obviously cannot concealed carry on my person, but can I take my firearm up to my room in my luggage? Is carrying a firearm in your luggage or even a gun case considered concealed carry? I had never given this scenario a thought before. Another confusing thing, there was another sign posted only at the front entrance on the sliding glass door. This sign said "The unlicensed possession of a weapon on these premises is a felony with a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and a fine not to exceed $10,000." What exactly is an unlicensed possession? The only license I know of is a concealed carry license, so all in all I am very confused about what to do in this situation. I feel uncomfortable leaving my firearm in the car, but I felt like I had no choice Sorry your instructor did a poor job Regarding the 30.06 sign, you do not need a CHL to carry your handgun to and from your vehicle and hotel room. Texas penal code 46.02 covers that. You do need a CHL to carry that handgun around the hotel like to the restaurant, etc. Be aware that a handgun in your luggage can be "about your person" and subject to 46.02 and 30.06. So you can carry at your hotel to and from the car and room, but due to the 30.06 posting you may not carry just around inside. Unlicensed possession is just that. Possession without a license. The sign you saw is required under the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code at all locations licensed by the TABC that sell alcohol and are not 51% locations. Do not leave your handgun in the car. This. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:17:23 PM EDT
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But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... In before the txinvestigator smackdown 
Shit - for once I have to say he is right and I agree with him. The theory is that once you are registered into a hotel room, it is essentially an extension of your home. 30.06 only applies to CHL and DOES NOT apply to your home. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:32:17 PM EDT
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Does anybody know of a case where a CHL has been arrested under this scenario?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:26:34 PM EDT
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This was a new piece of legislation from last year. It has nothing to do with 30.06, but rather notice of trespass. If you are notified and found NOT in compliance, you would be removed based on trespass. Trespass has always been there. What was new was the requirement to give notice at time of reservation. What REALLY sucks is if they give the notice AFTER you finalize the reservation and made your purchase non-refundable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. This was a new piece of legislation from last year. It has nothing to do with 30.06, but rather notice of trespass. If you are notified and found NOT in compliance, you would be removed based on trespass. Trespass has always been there. What was new was the requirement to give notice at time of reservation. What REALLY sucks is if they give the notice AFTER you finalize the reservation and made your purchase non-refundable. That new piece of legislation has nothing to do with trespass. It creates an offense for the hotel to ban firearms and not give proper notice. ;) |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:29:04 PM EDT
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Are you volunteering to be the test case (in a hotel with 30.06 signs posted)? You might beat the rap, but you probably wouldn't beat the ride. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Are you volunteering to be the test case (in a hotel with 30.06 signs posted)? You might beat the rap, but you probably wouldn't beat the ride. I HAVE carried to and from my car at a 30.06 hotel. Good grief,,y'all stop being skerred |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:31:28 PM EDT
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Actually with the new legislation passed last year that is now false. If you have been given notice either by the website, phone, or in person you are now trespassing. I asked this very question back in July and posted my findings including the lawyers comment. Naturally you argued it. I will stick with true legal advice versus your non professional opinion stated as legal fact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Actually with the new legislation passed last year that is now false. If you have been given notice either by the website, phone, or in person you are now trespassing. I asked this very question back in July and posted my findings including the lawyers comment. Naturally you argued it. I will stick with true legal advice versus your non professional opinion stated as legal fact. Quoted:
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Ain't that the truth. Embassy suits is owned by Hilton which is a gun free zone. I actually ask a lawyer, that specializes in gun laws and she indicated that if they give you the notice upon booking you cannot carry without violating Texas's fucked up gun laws. A 30.06 sign is not required at this point because you were given notice. This came from a lawyer, not somebody who enjoys giving out 10 cent legal advice on a forum that is not practicing law. Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. Once again, this new legislation did mot make ANY changes to the penal code, where the trespass law is. My statement is accurate. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:32:43 PM EDT
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But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. But do you really want to be the one to test that? If you like to toy with your freedom, go ahead... 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:32:54 PM EDT
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We traveled to Dallas this weekend and stayed at the Embassy Suites on Stemmons. I am new to concealed carry so I still have a lot to learn and we don't travel all the time, so I was very surprised to see a 30.06 sign at each entrance. So, I obviously cannot concealed carry on my person, but can I take my firearm up to my room in my luggage? Is carrying a firearm in your luggage or even a gun case considered concealed carry? I had never given this scenario a thought before. Another confusing thing, there was another sign posted only at the front entrance on the sliding glass door. This sign said "The unlicensed possession of a weapon on these premises is a felony with a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and a fine not to exceed $10,000." What exactly is an unlicensed possession? The only license I know of is a concealed carry license, so all in all I am very confused about what to do in this situation. I feel uncomfortable leaving my firearm in the car, but I felt like I had no choice This sign is quite common in Texas, especially Wal Mart and Gas Stations. Most states outlaw firearms, but as we know that allows punishment as a reactive measure, not prevention and crime reduction. Well, this sign covers the same intent. As TXI pointed out, in is LEGAL to carry a firearm to your room without a license. However, being that the rest of the hotel is private property, they require that sign to outlaw unlicensed carry. Otherwise, carry (if i am not mistaken) is otherwise dictated by private property owner. Thus, if you are a criminal trying to do harm or rob the hotel with a firearm, and you are not a resident, then they can fine you and imprison you as a reactionary measure, regardless of the robbery, murder, assault, etc. Unlicensed carry simply means carrying without a license. Basically its illegal, but this sign adds punishment as a reactionary measure. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:40:31 PM EDT
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Hopefully this isn't too much of a thread hijack, but does anyone know the policy at Days Inn or ever see a 30.06 posted at one? I can't find any policy in my reservation, the website, or google. Found one days in (in a different state) that had it's own website that said "no firearms on properties owned by a specific franchisee", but that doesn't seem relevant.
I'm planning to spend 4 days in Houston being a tourist (my dad's flying down from Massachusetts to visit) and I'm planning to hit up Space Center Houston. My understanding was guns were a no-go (even in a vehicle parking lot) since that's federal property, which means I'd have to leave the gun in the hotel room (locked up in case the staff has sticky fingers of course). |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:09:33 PM EDT
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:08:38 AM EDT
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No more Embassy Suites for me or Hilton's of any flavor.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:43:15 AM EDT
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Here's an idea: Put your handgun in your luggage, check in, go to your room, enjoy a night of unbridled passion with your wife, check out, leave. See how easy that was? It's not like they're going to rifle through your luggage at the door looking for a handgun.
Enough of this... 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:27:00 AM EDT
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I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. To and from your room.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:44:57 AM EDT
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I swear to god you need to be a lawyer to carry a gun in tx. what has this great state become... Well, carry laws have been fucked up in Texas as long as any of us have been alive. First it was illegal, then it was just absurdly complex. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:16:45 AM EDT
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. To and from your room. Suppose you actually need to *use* that handgun? I guess you're hoping Officer Friendly will overlook those 30.06 signs? |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:06:27 PM EDT
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Suppose you actually need to *use* that handgun? I guess you're hoping Officer Friendly will overlook those 30.06 signs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. To and from your room. Suppose you actually need to *use* that handgun? I guess you're hoping Officer Friendly will overlook those 30.06 signs? I've pondered this myself; Stay within the bounds of the law, but possibly be killed, or break the law and live. The latter just seems a bit more appealing to me. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:11:57 PM EDT
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I've pondered this myself; Stay within the bounds of the law, but possibly be killed, or break the law and live. The latter just seems a bit more appealing to me. Of course. Then there's the option of staying within the bounds of the law and living. That's why I avoid disarmed victim zones like the plague. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:31:20 PM EDT
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Suppose you actually need to *use* that handgun? I guess you're hoping Officer Friendly will overlook those 30.06 signs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you don't need a CHL to carry from your car to your room, per penal code 46.02. This came from a lawyer who specializes in gun laws. I think the lawyer is technically correct. But I don't expect Officer Friendly to see things that way if it somehow comes to the attention of the authorities that you're carrying a handgun in a 30.06 posted hotel. To and from your room. Suppose you actually need to *use* that handgun? I guess you're hoping Officer Friendly will overlook those 30.06 signs? If you get into a situation that requires you to use your handgun, a 30.06 sign is the least of your concerns. A loved one is getting raped/robbed/ etc on nearby property that is 30.06, are you actually suggesting you would not enter the property armed to stop it? |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:38:36 PM EDT
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If you get into a situation that requires you to use your handgun, a 30.06 sign is the least of your concerns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A loved one is getting raped/robbed/ etc on nearby property that is 30.06, are you actually suggesting you would not enter the property armed to stop it? 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:45:12 PM EDT
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I knew someone would come along to say that. Didn't figure it would be you though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you get into a situation that requires you to use your handgun, a 30.06 sign is the least of your concerns. I knew someone would come along to say that. Didn't figure it would be you though. Quoted:
A loved one is getting raped/robbed/ etc on nearby property that is 30.06, are you actually suggesting you would not enter the property armed to stop it? Well I did not expect you to bring up worrying what a cop would do in a SD situation in a 30.06 area. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:01:21 PM EDT
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Well I did not expect you to bring up worrying what a cop would do in a SD situation in a 30.06 area. To answer your original question, of course I would enter a posted property armed to stop a loved one from being raped / robbed / etc. And I would use a "necessity" defense in the unlikely event I was charged for doing so. But that isn't what we're discussing here. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:57:56 PM EDT
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To answer your original question, of course I would enter a posted property armed to stop a loved one from being raped / robbed / etc. And I would use a "necessity" defense in the unlikely event I was charged for doing so. But that isn't what we're discussing here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well I did not expect you to bring up worrying what a cop would do in a SD situation in a 30.06 area. To answer your original question, of course I would enter a posted property armed to stop a loved one from being raped / robbed / etc. And I would use a "necessity" defense in the unlikely event I was charged for doing so. But that isn't what we're discussing here. I know you would. So would everyone else I know. That is why I did not understand the Officer Friendly comment. |
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