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Posted: 5/8/2009 1:52:50 PM
So I found out that yesterday 5/7/09 there was a apparent suicide at Red Shooting range in Pflugerville. Anyone have any info on this? I knew the guy. I worked with him for about 4 years. Really a stand up / go to kinda guy. was going through a divorce from what I heard.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 2:35:36 PM
Family friends called the house to tell us there was a hubub at Red's last night, I think they were checking to see if I was home or not

I haven't seen any news about it yet.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:13:02 PM
WTF!??!?!

I live about 2 miles from there...
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:20:06 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
WTF!??!?!

I live about 2 miles from there...


Same here. My wife and I shoot there frequently...

Hate to hear about this sort of thing.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:21:26 PM
Originally Posted By atxjax:
So I found out that yesterday 5/7/09 there was a apparent suicide at Red Shooting range in Pflugerville. Anyone have any info on this? I knew the guy. I worked with him for about 4 years. Really a stand up / go to kinda guy. was going through a divorce from what I heard.


I just googled for it but didn't find any news stories online.

Anyone got a link?
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:34:16 PM
I havent been able to find anyting on the news yet. I figured the media would be all over this.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:39:16 PM
didnt some woman shot herself at Red's not-that-long-ago?
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:41:02 PM

Originally Posted By glock9mm:
didnt some woman shot herself at Red's not-that-long-ago?

Yeah, at the Reds south. About a month ago. She didnt succeed though.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:51:31 PM
I would not be surprised if most ranges quit allowing people to rent handguns unless they were accompained by a regular or already had a handgun.

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Posted: 5/8/2009 3:57:27 PM

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
I would not be surprised if most ranges quit allowing people to rent handguns unless they were accompained by a regular or already had a handgun.


From what I heard through friends here at work was that he already had a pistol. Just didnt have ammo. Red's typically has ammo in stock because of their absurd prices on ammo.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:01:13 PM

Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
I would not be surprised if most ranges quit allowing people to rent handguns unless they were accompained by a regular or already had a handgun.


From what I heard through friends here at work was that he already had a pistol. Just didnt have ammo. Red's typically has ammo in stock because of their absurd prices on ammo.

Gotcha- Figured it was another case of renting a gun to blow your brains out with.


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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:03:49 PM
I was there, here is a quick summary. I heard conflicting conditions but he had blood coming out of his mouth and an employee had a gauze roll held to the back of his head. I overheard one guy say there was no exit wound, but another said there was. From the sounds, they performed CPR and eventually had a vacuum tube to drain some of the blood, he appeared to be alive when he left.

As for what happened, no one knew (or was saying) exactly what occurred even though he was in the middle of about 20 people. When the police arrived we were not allowed to leave. At first we were told that all guns may have to be taken until the caliber of the bullet was determined, but they let (at least some) of us leave with everything after taking statements.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:24:43 PM
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:26:01 PM
Originally Posted By Number21:
I was there, here is a quick summary. I heard conflicting conditions but he had blood coming out of his mouth and an employee had a gauze roll held to the back of his head. I overheard one guy say there was no exit wound, but another said there was. From the sounds, they performed CPR and eventually had a vacuum tube to drain some of the blood, he appeared to be alive when he left.

As for what happened, no one knew (or was saying) exactly what occurred even though he was in the middle of about 20 people. When the police arrived we were not allowed to leave. At first we were told that all guns may have to be taken until the caliber of the bullet was determined, but they let (at least some) of us leave with everything after taking statements.


Ug. I'd be very, very angry at the jackass if I were to have been caught up in it like you were. What the fuck would possess him to do it there? He could have taken his ammo home.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:31:24 PM

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:34:45 PM
Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.


Oh, it was one of the employees? And he shot himself over pussy? Great, just great.

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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:37:38 PM

Originally Posted By MakemineanRRA:
Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.


Oh, it was one of the employees? And he shot himself over pussy? Great, just great.



No.....He wasnt a Red's employee. He worked with me over at my place of employment.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 5:13:55 PM
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Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.


How could shooting yourself ever be appropriate? But doing it in such a way was definitely a double-dumbass move.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 5:21:38 PM

Originally Posted By SoftwareJanitor:
Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.


How could shooting yourself ever be appropriate? But doing it in such a way was definitely a double-dumbass move.


Inappropriate.......I guess I couldnt find a better word. But yes......dumbass move for sure.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 5:32:24 PM
I been divorced twice now. Neither time did I want to kill myself. Both divorces sucked. Very emotional time.

Suicide is may be right for some people (cases in point being Louis Farakhan, Jeffrey Dahlmer and Charles Manson).

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Posted: 5/8/2009 6:04:34 PM
feel bad for reds indoor range. theyve had to weather alot of shit recently
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Posted: 5/8/2009 6:14:26 PM
this has been pre edited by me for a tasteless joke...condolences to any family the selfish bastard left behind

suicide people...seek help not death

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Posted: 5/8/2009 6:24:06 PM
Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By MakemineanRRA:
Originally Posted By atxjax:

Originally Posted By Hoji:
What a dick. Could not have done this in private, where it would not have traumatized a group of people looking to relax, no, had to do it at a public range so it put the rest of us who are not dicks in the worst possible light.


I knew the guy from work. He was one of my mentors when I first got hired. Everytime I worked with him and talked to him he seemed cool and relaxed. I wont go as far as calling him a dick but it was innapropriate. Could have gone outside or something or just not shoot yourself over a woman.


Oh, it was one of the employees? And he shot himself over pussy? Great, just great.



No.....He wasnt a Red's employee. He worked with me over at my place of employment.


Oh, sorry , I misunderstood.

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Posted: 5/8/2009 8:10:23 PM
I was also there at the time of the shooting. I also did not see what happened. The man did have blood coming out of his mouth and CPR was given to the man and he did appear to be alive when he left. One thing I did hear was a Red's employee say that they had his ID behind the counter, which usually means he rented something or borrowed a spotting scope from Red's. He was on the hand gun range when it occurred and I cannot say if he had a rifle.

The issue will make me save more money to buy my own land to have my own shooting range.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 8:22:51 PM
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Edited. See Vesla's post above.
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Posted: 5/8/2009 9:37:30 PM
Originally Posted By Vesla:
I was also there at the time of the shooting. I also did not see what happened. The man did have blood coming out of his mouth and CPR was given to the man and he did appear to be alive when he left. One thing I did hear was a Red's employee say that they had his ID behind the counter, which usually means he rented something or borrowed a spotting scope from Red's. He was on the hand gun range when it occurred and I cannot say if he had a rifle.

The issue will make me save more money to buy my own land to have my own shooting range.



Hmmm, not initially fatal and no one saw exactly what happened. Might have just been a stupidity shooting and not suicide. When I'm at a range I'm amazed there's not more "accidental" shootings than what there are.
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