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Posted: 1/12/2017 12:21:31 AM EDT
These are the bills that have advanced this year to meet a committee deadline. All other firearm related bills are likely dead this year.
H. 3930 - Constitutional carry, several other things, see post below for 3/16/2017. Passed House, Referred to Committee on Judiciary in Senate - Link - H.3930 Full Text H. 3566 - Emergency responder carry in schools. Passed House, sent to the Senate - Link - H.3566 Full Text H. 3429 - Exempt $10,000 in firearms from bankruptcy proceedings Passed House, sent to Senate - Link - H.3429 Full Text S. 443 - Nighttime hunting ban for certain animals. Amended, passed senate, sent to house referred to subcommittee on wildlife - Link - S.443 Full Text H. 3240 - Universal recognition of out of state CWP. On contested calendar for 2nd reading full vote in the House w/amendment - Link - H.3240 Full Text S. 449 - Constitution carry, permitless for both open and concealed carry. Senate subcommittee meeting scheduled for 4/18/2017 4:00 PM - Link - S.449 Full Text S. 432 - Property owners that post their property will be liable for the safety of patrons, concealed carry allowed during evacuation by all people during for 48 hours, and creates an institutional CWP for additional carry locations. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S.432 Full Text H. 3052 - Allow Guns for teachers /and administrators. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3052 Full Text H. 3330 - Allow Guns for school personnel and CWP holders, as approved by administration. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3330 Full Text H. 3248 - Allow CWP on college campuses. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3248 Full Text H. 3262 - Allow CWP at college sporting events. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3262 Full Text H. 3187 - Carry exemptions for emergency responders. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3187 Full Text H. 3174 - Victim advocates allowed to carry while on duty. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3174 Full Text H. 3205 - Retired officials and clerks of court allowed to carry. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3205 Full Text H. 3239 - Hold those with no gun posted property liable for injury due to attack on a CWP holder. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3239 Full Text S. 324 - Expansion of unrestricted carry capabilities for officials of the court beyond being on duty to include active and retired officials, Senate Judiciary subcommittee meeting 2/15/17 - Link - S.324 Full Text H. 3700 - Constitutional carry Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3700 Full Text S. 21 - Can kill any animal in self defense, must report incident and surrender animal or face charges. Senate Referred to Committee on Fish, Game and Forestry - Link - S.21 Full Text S. 88 - No gun posting liability, carry for emergency evacuation, creates institutional CWP w/ additional privileges, marks gun owners like animals on their license plates. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S. 88 Full Text H.527 - Ban on firearms for certain people, contains language that can be subjective, and potentially overreaching Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S.527 Full Text H.516 - Sneaky background check delay extension Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link -S.516 Full Text H. 3190 - Tiered penalty system for unlawful handgun carry. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3190 Full Text H. 3191 - Graduated penalty system for subsequent offenses. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3191 Full Text H. 3180 - Removes background check 3 day maximum safeguard. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3180 Full Text H. 3181 - Universal background checks, elimination of private sales, exempt from public record. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3181 Full Text H. 3252 - Green tip ammo ban, felony offense. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3252 Full Text H. 3182 - Increase the penalty for unlawful carry of handgun from one year to five, increase fines. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3182 Full Text H. 3183 - Poorly written assault weapons ban, bans transfer of possession to those on watch lists. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3183 Full Text H. 3192 -Expands definition of where one can not discharge a firearm. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3192 Full Text H. 3217 -Creates penalties for failure to report lost or stolen firearm. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3217 Full Text H. 3266 - No transfer of a weapon to someone on a watch list. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3266 Full Text H. 3328 - Extends the three day max background check safeguard to 28 days. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3328 Full Text S. 143 - Completely removes the three day max background check safeguard, indefinite denial. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S.143 Full Text S. 158 - Extends the three day max background check safeguard to 28 days. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S.158 Full Text S. 159 - Extends the three day max background check safeguard to 28 days. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - S.159 Full Text H. 3398 - Raise awareness of gun violence foundation and make June 2017 Gun Violence Awareness Month. (Resolution) Referred to Committee of Judiciary - Link H.3398 Full Text |
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Space saver for senator and house representative contact information.
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Small update.
The big bill pushed by the NRA so far is H.3240, the full recognition of all out of state CWP permits. It has been scheduled for a few meetings. One of which I do not know the result, except that another sponsor was added, and the other which was canceled. There is a full judiciary committee meeting in the house for H. 3429 after being reported favorable with amendment out of the general laws subcommittee.The meeting is scheduled for 2/7/2017 at 2:30 pm, or one and one-half hours upon adjournment of the House, whichever is later, in Room 516 of the Blatt Building. |
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The subcommittee for H.3240, the CWP recognition bill, is scheduled for tomorrow 2/8/2017 immediately upon adjournment in Room 516 of the Blatt Building.
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The full House Judiciary Committee reported H.3429, bankrucptcy protection for firearms, favorable with amendment and is now on the house calendar for a full vote on the second reading.
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Small update. The big bill pushed by the NRA so far is H.3240, the full recognition of all out of state CWP permits. It has been scheduled for a few meetings. One of which I do not know the result, except that another sponsor was added, and the other which was canceled. There is a full judiciary committee meeting in the house for H. 3429 after being reported favorable with amendment out of the general laws subcommittee.The meeting is scheduled for 2/7/2017 at 2:30 pm, or one and one-half hours upon adjournment of the House, whichever is later, in Room 516 of the Blatt Building. View Quote Maybe a stupid question but if this bill passes will SC CWP pick up any new states that we can carry in? Move us closer to a Utah/Florida CWP? |
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Maybe a stupid question but if this bill passes will SC CWP pick up any new states that we can carry in? Move us closer to a Utah/Florida CWP? View Quote Off the top of my head, I think Colorado and Pennsylvania. Maybe a few more. Honestly, I think it is just as important for allowing all the states that recognize us, to carry here, as it is to expand our permit elsewhere. It accomplishes that and more. Look at our reciprocity comparison maps of states honored by us versus honoring us, especially our neighbors Mississippi and Alabama. It's a sad state of affairs. We will have more states that recognize our permit, or at least we can carry in, than someone with a Florida resident permit, if this passes. I think on top of Colorado and Pennsylvania, that Delaware, New Hampshite, Maine and Washington would be added. |
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H.3240, universal CWP recognition, was reported favorable out of the House Constitutional Laws Subcommittee.
It is now scheduled for a full House Judicary Committee hearing on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm, or one andone-half hours upon adjournment of the House, whichever is later, in Room 516. We also gained another sponsor on the bill. |
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H.3240, universal CWP recognition, was reported favorable out of the House Constitutional Laws Subcommittee. It is now scheduled for a full House Judicary Committee hearing on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm, or one andone-half hours upon adjournment of the House, whichever is later, in Room 516. We also gained another sponsor on the bill. View Quote Great news! |
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H.3240, universal CWP recognition, was reported favorable with an amendment out of the judiciary committee. The amendment specifies that the out of state CWP holders must be 21 years of age.
The amendment also exempts out of state military members from the 21 year of age requirement. The amendment also grants permission for SC resident military(active, reserve, or national guard) members who are under 21 years of age to acquire a CWP. The bill now moves to the full house floor for its second reading vote. Hopefully it will be done tomorrow. H.3429, firearm bankruptcy protection, received its full vote for the second reading yesterday and passed the house with amendment, 98-3. It should receive its third reading on the uncontested house calendar tomorrow, and get kicked over to the senate. The amendment raised the protected firearm value from $5,000 to $10,000. S. 324, expansion of unrestricted carry capabilities for officials of the court beyond being on duty to include active and retired officials, had a Senate Judiciary subcommittee meeting today chaired by Senator Hutto. I do not yet know the reporting of the committee. |
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H.3240, universal CWP recognition, was not taken up today. Hopefully it will be taken up on Tuesday.
H.3429 received its third reading in the house today and was sent to the senate. Senate bill S.432 was introduced by Senator Verdin today. This is a re-submission of his Senate bill S.88 that he submitted earlier this year that did sever good things but then made CWP holders put stickers on their license plates. That provision was completely removed in this rendition and the rest of the bill is exactly as it was. That is, property owners that post their property will be liable for the safety of patrons, concealed carry allowed during evacuation by all people during for 48 hours, and creates an institutional CWP for additional carry locations. The bill was referred to a Judiciary committee. Senate bill S.430 was introduced by Senator Senn a Republican from Charleston today A BILL TO AMEND CHAPTER 31, TITLE 23 OF THE 1976 CODE, RELATING TO FIREARMS, BY ADDING ARTICLE 3, TO PROVIDE THAT ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY SOLICITS, PERSUADES, ENCOURAGES, OR ENTICES A DEALER OR SELLER OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION TO TRANSFER A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE PERSON KNOWS WOULD VIOLATE THE LAWS OF THIS STATE OR THE UNITED STATES IS GUILTY OF A FELONY AND MUST BE FINED NOT MORE THAN THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS, IMPRISONED UP TO FIVE YEARS, OR BOTH; AND TO DEFINE NECESSARY TERMS Senate bill S.431 was introduced by Senator Senn a Republican fron Charleston today A BILL TO AMEND ARTICLE 5, CHAPTER 23, TITLE 16 OF THE 1976 CODE, RELATING TO MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES INVOLVING WEAPONS, BY ADDING SECTION 16-23-540, TO PROVIDE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO THREATEN, SOLICIT ANOTHER TO THREATEN, OR CONSPIRE TO THREATEN TO CAUSE DAMAGE, INJURY, OR DEATH OR TO CAUSE DAMAGE TO OR DESTROY A BUILDING OR OTHER REAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY BY USE OF A FIREARM ON ANY PREMISES OR PROPERTY OWNED, OPERATED, OR CONTROLLED BY A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SCHOOL, COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY, TECHNICAL COLLEGE, OR OTHER POST-SECONDARY INSTITUTION OR IN ANY PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDING; TO PROVIDE THAT A PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR; TO PROVIDE THAT A PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SECTION RESULTING IN PROPERTY DAMAGE IS GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR; AND TO PROVIDE THAT A PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SECTION BY CAUSING INJURY OR DEATH IS GUILTY OF A FELONY |
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S.449, Constitutional carry, was just introduced in the senate by Senators Martin, Corbin, Rice, Shealy and Verdin.
I find it interesting that Shealy is a sponsor on the bill since she was the one that killed permitless carry for concealed weapons last year in a senate subcommittee. Maybe it was an election year thing, I dont know. But now it includes permitless carry for open and concealed weapons for anyone legally allowed to possess them. S.443, A nighttime hunting ban for certain animals and under certain conditions was introduced today. H.3240, universal CWP recognition, was placed on the contested calendar for the second reading. |
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H. 3252 - Green tip ammo ban, felony offense.
Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3252 Full Text This looks stupid. Ban "green Tip" ammo but doesn't define. So 62gr 5.56 mm that isn't painted green is OK? |
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H. 3252 - Green tip ammo ban, felony offense. Referred to Committee on Judiciary - Link - H.3252 Full Text This looks stupid. Ban "green Tip" ammo but doesn't define. So 62gr 5.56 mm that isn't painted green is OK? View Quote So sales of paint thinner to SC owners of M855 stockpiles should spike if this idiotic bill becomes law? |
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We have the introduction of a huge bill which has a meeting on the 21st and a few smaller bills that I suggest you take a look at.
H. 3930 is the new huge bill that has an introduction in the house. It basically amounts to a constitutional carry bill as far as I can tell, though it never overtly states such. It has been reported favorably out of the constitutional laws subcommittee. It is scheduled for a full judiciary committee meeting on March 21, 2017 at 2:30 pm, or one and one-half hours upon adjournment of the House, whichever is later, in Room 516 of the Blatt Building. This bill is very large and amends numerous sections of our current blocks of firearms laws. I will try and summarize the appreciable changes. There is a lot of clarifying language that i will not comment on, but I encourage you to read the bill. - Link to H.3930 Section 2 Lays groundwork for permitless carry. Gets rid of needing a ccw to conceal a gun under the seat or open/closed compartment of a vehicle or anywhere on a person while in a vehicle. Protects movement of a firearm to/from concealment to another location for person without ccw. Protects exposure of a gun in defense of self, property, or another. Protects inadvertent exposures of concealed firearms.. Section 3 Allows people without a permit to have a firearm on school grounds, public buildings, if it is unloaded and in a locked container in their vehicle. Charges language from unlawful to enter those premises with a firearm to unlawful to threaten others with a firearm while on premises. Section 5 Continues to remove language that requires a permit for carry. Section 6 Clarifies alcohol consumption in a business while carrying Section 7 Makes it so one is not required to carry a cwp card with them while carrying a concealed firearm. Honors all other states' carry permits. Adds language that permits will still be issued but are not necessary to carry in a manner not prohibited by law. Removes the word favorable for SLED permit issuance to "disqualifying under this section" (which there is no terms of disqualification listed under that section, except if that person is prohibited from firearm ownership in general.) S.443 Passed the senate and is in the House and referred to the committee on Agriculture, Natural Resources and Environmental Affairs. The meeting is Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at2:30 p.m. or thirty (30) minutes upon adjournment in Room 410 of the Blatt Building.This is a nighttime hunting ban that bans the hunting of certain animals at night. Using artificial light at night while in possession of a rifle bigger than a .22 rimfire is enough evidence to arrest you for nighttime hunting of bear, deer, or turkey unless you are on your own property and it is before 11:00 PM or engaged in a legal night hunt. S.527 was introduced in the senate. It is a bipartisan bill to attempt to prohibit certain people from obtaining a firearm and punishes those who sell to them. It contains language that bars people that are of subnormal intelligence, that have a mental condition, or are unable to manage their own affairs. This bill has a lot of additional things in it that try to restrict people of certain ages and certain deficiencies from obtaining arms and ammo. But some of the language like I have listed above seems to cast a wide net and reminds me of the social security gun ban thing the federal government tried to do. Because of some of this language along with the addition of subjective things like "having reasonable cause to believe" I am listing it as a gun control bill, also senator Kimpson is an author of the bill. S.516 was introduced in the senate. It is disguised as a domestic violence reporting bill for local law enforcement to report any such report to SLED within a short period of time. Then in the very last section it sneaks in an extension of the amount of time someone can be delayed for NICS to complete a report before a dealer can transfer a firearm. Sneaky bitches. Another Kimpson bill. H.3700 is a house bill, for constitutional carry, that was introduced in the beginning of February that I somehow missed. It hasn't gone anywhere yet and is still awaiting its house judiciary subcommittee. |
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H.3930, permitless carry, was reported favorably out of the House Judiciary committee and is now on the calendar for the second reading of uncontested bills.
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WIS-TV (Columbia) has repeatedly referred to this bill as "Open Carry". Anyone notice that?
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WIS-TV (Columbia) has repeatedly referred to this bill as "Open Carry". Anyone notice that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
WIS-TV (Columbia) has repeatedly referred to this bill as "Open Carry". Anyone notice that? Quoted:
Rather have open carry than permitless carry. It's hard to gather the effect of laws written like this because it doesn't outright state what it is achieving but rather eliminates existing laws or rewords them. I'll go through all the sections of the law that affect open carry and see if this eliminates the restrictions on it. |
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H.3930, permitless carry, was moved to the contested calendar today.
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Excuse my ignorance but what does this mean? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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H.3930, permitless carry, was moved to the contested calendar today. The House and the Senate of South Carolina both must read a bill 3 times each before it can be ratified and sent to the governor. Each day that the house or senate are in deliberations, in their respective chambers in the statehouse, they follow an order of consideration for statewide bills. {Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday for statewide (local bills on Fridays)} So the general order for bills is as follows. There are a lot of other motions and administrative type things that happen that I am leaving out. Each day the order of consideration starts all over again from the top of the calendar. -Bills Introduced the first time, either in origination in that body or sent from the other legislative body. This is the "first read" This is when the bill is referred to a Committee, which delegates research to a subcommittee that reports back to the larger committee, which reports back to floor. Bills die in committee all the time. Even though a bill went through committee in its originating body it will still go through a committee process in the body it was just introduced to. -The next order is uncontested readings of bills for the third time calendar. Most of these have already been voted on during the second reading, making it largely procedural. It has essentially passed this body at this point and safe from filibuster and the like. (I should add that there are exceptions, and also different rules for each body). After this reading, it will either be sent to the other body, or if it has already been passed there, it will be ratified and sent to the governor. -Then comes the uncontested second reading of bills calendar, this is the typical time when a vote happens for a bill in either body. This is where a bill lands after being reported out of a full committee hearing. At this point a person may speak briefly on what the bill does, I think 5 minutes max in the house, and then they do a recorded vote. This is also the point in time where someone can request debate on a bill which places it on the contested calendar. In this case it will not receive a vote until it is taken up during the contested calendar period. -Then comes the contested third reading calendar. Bills land here after being voted through of the contested 2nd reading calendar. The bill has still basically passed the body at this point. -Then, The second reading for statewide contested bills calendar. Going down the list in the order in which they are added. This is where debates happen, filibusters, arguments, motions and amendments. If a legislative body makes it to the contested calendar on that day, these are the most time consuming bills on the floor. Debates can be long winded and circular. I think we may have changed the rules this year to lessen the power of a democrat filibuster in the senate, but the problem remains. Sometimes one or two bills on the contested calendar may take up an entire day or more. This is where we need to get a vote to move it on. If debate for the day adjourns before you reach the bill on the contested calendar, then the calendar starts all over again from the top and works its way back down to the contested calendar. There are tools like the special order that can be used to pull bills to the top of the heap, but it is subject to rules and limited in use. We used it last year to save Georgia reciprocity from the contested calendar, in the senate. Also, it is typically much worse to land on the contested calendar in the senate than in the house. Hope that helps! |
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I'll give the general rundown of the whole process. The House and the Senate of South Carolina both must read a bill 3 times each before it can be ratified and sent to the governor. Each day that the house or senate are in deliberations, in their respective chambers in the statehouse, they follow an order of consideration for statewide bills. {Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday for statewide (local bills on Fridays)} So the general order for bills is as follows. There are a lot of other motions and administrative type things that happen that I am leaving out. Each day the order of consideration starts all over again from the top of the calendar. -Bills Introduced the first time, either in origination in that body or sent from the other legislative body. This is the "first read" This is when the bill is referred to a Committee, which delegates research to a subcommittee that reports back to the larger committee, which reports back to floor. Bills die in committee all the time. Even though a bill went through committee in its originating body it will still go through a committee process in the body it was just introduced to. -The next order is uncontested readings of bills for the third time calendar. Most of these have already been voted on during the second reading, making it largely procedural. It has essentially passed this body at this point and safe from filibuster and the like. (I should add that there are exceptions, and also different rules for each body). After this reading, it will either be sent to the other body, or if it has already been passed there, it will be ratified and sent to the governor. -Then comes the uncontested second reading of bills calendar, this is the typical time when a vote happens for a bill in either body. This is where a bill lands after being reported out of a full committee hearing. At this point a person may speak briefly on what the bill does, I think 5 minutes max in the house, and then they do a recorded vote. This is also the point in time where someone can request debate on a bill which places it on the contested calendar. In this case it will not receive a vote until it is taken up during the contested calendar period. I do not know why some bills get contested seemingly by their own authors, it befuddles me. They must have their reasons... -Then comes the contested third reading calendar. (Pretty uncommon) -Then, The second reading for statewide contested bills calendar. Going down the list in the order in which they are added. This is where debates happen, filibusters, arguments, motions and amendments. If a legislative body makes it to the contested calendar on that day, these are the most time consuming bills on the floor. Debates can be long winded and circular. I think we may have changed the rules this year to lessen the power of a democrat filibuster in the senate, but the problem remains. Sometimes one or two bills on the contested calendar may take up an entire day or more. This is where we need to get a vote to move it on. If debate for the day adjourns before you reach the bill on the contested calendar, then the calendar starts all over again from the top and works its way back down to the contested calendar. There are tools like the special order that can be used to pull bills to the top of the heap, but it is subject to rules and limited in use. We used it last year to save Georgia reciprocity from the contested calendar, in the senate. Also, it is typically much worse to land on the contested calendar in the senate than in the house. Hope that helps! View Quote |
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Thank you for that. What are our chances of getting this passed? View Quote That certainly helps. If it gets pushed through the house, we'll have to do our part and start emailing and calling senators to apply pressure, like we did last year. I do not know if you are a member or not, but if you would like to help you can follow this link. You do not need to be a member to use it. Fill out the fields and then it will generate a generic email about the bills with a large mailing list of our legislators. https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=1535 It gives you the ability to amend the content of the email, if you so desire. I still believe that phoning and direct emailing representatives is much more effective, but every bit helps. The NRA links are an easy way to mass email. If this bill does not make it to the senate by April 10th then it will not be considered this year. |
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Here is an update, and my opinion in regards to the concealed carry and open carry provisions of what I have been calling permitless carry, H. 3930.
Today the senate took 6 hours to debate a dismemberment of living fetus abortion debate, when the bill finally passed, the next bill they took up was H.3930. They invoked cloture to stop the Dems from filibustering right off the bat. The Dems started a big wave of motions and Rep Pitts moved to adjourn for the day. The bill has not progressed. Now here is my opinion on the open carry aspects of the bill. I believe it would allow the open carry of handguns, but not necessarily long guns. Here is the provision I believe would prohibit it from including long guns. SECTION 50-11-760. (A) It is unlawful for a person to hunt from a public road or railroad right-of-way if the person does not have permission to hunt the land immediately adjacent to the public road or railroad right-of-way. (B) (1) For purposes of this section, "hunting" includes: (a) taking deer by occupying stands for that purpose; or (b) possessing, carrying, or having readily accessible: (i) a loaded centerfire rifle; or (ii) a shotgun loaded with shot size larger than number four. (2) For purposes of this section, "loaded" means a weapon within which any ammunition is contained. (3) For purposes of this section, the terms "possessing", "carrying", and "having readily accessible" do not include a centerfire rifle or shotgun which is contained in a: (a) closed compartment; (b) closed vehicle trunk; or a (c) vehicle traveling on a public road. (C) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned for not more than thirty days. Now it is kind of an obscure way to ban open carry of a long gun by charging you with illegally hunting, but it appears as if it would be the case. I may be incorrect, however. The only other concern would be that is this bill allows open carry, that it does not amend: SECTION 51-3-145 (G) Possessing any firearm, airgun, explosive, or firework except by duly authorized park personnel, law enforcement officers, or persons using areas specifically designated by the department for use of firearms, airguns, fireworks, or explosives. Licensed hunters may have firearms in their possession during hunting seasons provided that such firearms are unloaded and carried in a case or the trunk of a vehicle except that in designated game management areas where hunting is permitted, licensed hunters may use firearms for hunting in the manner authorized by law. This subsection shall not apply to a person carrying a concealable weapon pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23, and the concealable weapon and its ammunition. The above should be amended either to include open carry or elimination of the need for a carry permit. From this point forward I will refer to H.3930 as a constitutional carry bill, even with the potential issues that have been identified. |
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Are we getting a vote on this today? View Quote They are debating it right now. Two amendments have passed and two have failed. They are about to begin a 2 hour debate period, as the result of cloture, and then a vote. You can watch it here if you'd like. http://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/videopage.php?chamber=H&AUDIO=0 |
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They are debating it right now. Two amendments have passed and two have failed.
They are about to begin a 2 hour debate period, as the result of cloture, and then a vote. You can watch it here if you'd like. http://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/videopage.php?chamber=H&AUDIO=0 View Quote |
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H.3930, constitutional carry, has passed the second reading in the house.
It had two amendments passed with it. The first was to maintain hospitals and churches on the prohibited places list and also to increase the penalty for ignoring CWP posted signs. The second was to allow people 18 and over to have possession. I'm not clear on the details because they were explained in three minutes, it will be clarified when it is published. It will be on the calendar for the third reading tomorrow. After it receives third reading it will be sent to the senate. Please follow this thread carefully over the next couple weeks as we will need to contact out senators at four different times. This bill will die in the senate if we do not apply pressure when needed. We need to contact the chair of the Senate Judiciary committee to get a subcommittee meeting scheduled ASAP. Then we will need to contact the 5 members of that subcommittee, then the full judiciary committee. And finally, we will have to contact all of our senators for its final votes. A similar bill was killed last year in committee in the senate, by the hands of a republican senator. Please, be prepared to contact your senators at the appropriate times. Time is running out. |
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H.3566, emergency responder carry in schools, passed the house 80-8 with amendments.
It is scheduled for third reading and then will be sent to the senate. |
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H.3930, constitutional carry, and H.3566, emergency responder carry in schools, have both received their third reading and have been sent to the senate.
Pretty much all other gun related bills are dead this year, except for the nighttime hunting ban which is stuck in committee in the house, and 3429 bankruptcy protection for firearms, which has made it to the senate committee and is finally scheduled for a subcommittee meeting. No other bills will hit the April 10th deadline of needing to be received by the second body in order to be considered. The House and Senate have all of next week off and will not reconvene until April 18th. |
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A senate subcommittee meeting has been scheduled for Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:00 P.M. or 30 Minutes Following Adjournment Room 209, Gressette Building.
This subcommittee meeting includes H.3429, firearm bankruptcy protection. The rest are gun control bills. S.516, that criminal reporting bill that eliminates our 3 day max NICS delay protections.S.159, extends our 3 day max NICS delay protections to 28 days of being delayed. S.431, threatening firearms at school, bill that makes threatening with firearm illegal at school but also if any property is damaged at the school as a result of using a firearm. I don't like it in case we eventually get campus carry and someone is forced to defend themselves and others, that they may be charged with a crime from property damage. Call me paranoid, but it seems like a backdoor way to make those kind of bills more difficult to pass. None of the gun control bills in this meeting can be taken up this session, even if they passed the senate, without a huge procedural move by the house, which is unlikely. Not that it is likely they would pass anyways. However, that bankruptcy protection can pass this year. |
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I was cooking dinner and I missed it, I went back today because I had to see it. Just so everyone knows, Crosby spoke out against the bill. "I have a gun, I like my gun, I protect myself" "In my day the worst thing you could get in a fight with was a brass knuckles and a knife, we didn't have all the problems we have today." "Why do we need a bill, we have the second amendment? Why are we talking about the constitution? This bill is about open carry." "Go in a bar with it strapped openly on them, start foolin around, and then all the other guns come out. Boy, real funny right? All guns come out. Real positive way to live our life." You guys down in Charleston need to do something about this guy that calls himself a republican. http://i68.tinypic.com/2eykrif.jpg http://i65.tinypic.com/im1cgn.jpg View Quote |
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It is time to start to act! H.3930 hit the senate this Tuesday.
Please note that you do have to fill out personal information in both of the email forms below. Please hit this NRA link to email your state senator. This generates a generic email that will be sent to your senator. https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=1619 More importantly at this time: we need to contact State Senator Luke Rankin, the chairman of the judiciary committee, to get him to schedule a subcommittee meeting immediately. I was unable to find an email address for him so I had to use the statehouse form to send him an email. Email him here. http://scstatehouse.gov/email.php?T=M&C=1511363455 If you do not feel comfortable filling out the form please call his office Phone (803) 212-6610 and make it known that you wish to have this meeting scheduled as soon as possible. Here is the content of the email that I sent to him in the message box on the statehouse emailer form, from above. Feel free to use it. Senator Rankin,
I am writing to request an immediate scheduling for H.3930. Many in our community are hoping that this bill receives a fair and timely hearing, in hopes that it passes. Not only does this bill expand our reciprocity with many more states; but also increases the options for carry to best suit the needs of any given person, and allows those with a lower economic status the ability to protect themselves while in public. I urge you to schedule this subcommittee meeting for as soon as possible. As you well know, last year the universal recognition/reciprocity firearm carry bill was put off until the last minute and great concessions were made in order to stave off the filibuster, due to time constraints. View Quote |
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The senate is taking up a constitutional carry bill in an hour or two, in a subcommittee. However, it is not the one from the house that we want them to take up, it is S.449.
Because this bill originated in the senate and missed the April 10th deadline, unless 2/3 of the house votes for a rule waiver, it will not be taken up in the house this year. It remains to be seen for a date on the bill that can actually pass this year, H.3930 |
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It is time to start to act! H.3930 hit the senate this Tuesday. Please note that you do have to fill out personal information in both of the email forms below. Please hit this NRA link to email your state senator. This generates a generic email that will be sent to your senator. https://act.nraila.org/takeaction.aspx?AlertID=1619 More importantly at this time: we need to contact State Senator Luke Rankin, the chairman of the judiciary committee, to get him to schedule a subcommittee meeting immediately. I was unable to find an email address for him so I had to use the statehouse form to send him an email. Email him here. http://scstatehouse.gov/email.php?T=M&C=1511363455 If you do not feel comfortable filling out the form please call his office Phone (803) 212-6610 and make it known that you wish to have this meeting scheduled as soon as possible. Here is the content of the email that I sent to him in the message box on the statehouse emailer form, from above. Feel free to use it. This is very important to get the ball rolling on this bill as soon as possible. View Quote |
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