Keeping my fingers crossed that the bill does reach Trump's desk.




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I think I heard they need 8 Dems to sign on.  

Edit: According to the other thread the language that overruled NJ's carry ban had been removed from the bill. So regardless of Dems getting on board, still no carry in NJ.

Let's be honest here, does anyone actually think, even under the best of circumstances, that NJ would allow it?

I'm hopeful the bill passes; not for us in NJ but for the rest of America. I've said right along that none of these laws will apply to NJ and I still don't believe any of them will. NJ is it's own country, with it's own set of laws within the boarders of the United States. The Constitution does not apply here nor do any federal laws so there's absolutely no reason to believe the HPA and National Reciprocity will.

Yup, the senate bill is the same as the one introduced the last few times. NJ resident with a non-resident CCW would be able to carry everywhere but NJ. Either way states like NJ and NY will still fight it tooth and nail no doubt.

I'm with you in that I do hope the HPA and the reciprocity bill's do pass but I'm realistic enough to know that New Jersey's police chiefs, unions, politicians and their gibsmedat constituents will do everything in their power, including lying, to keep their precious power and maintain the status quo.