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Posted: 6/13/2016 5:52:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2016 5:53:29 PM EDT
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i'll try to remember to post some updates here, but i made a thread in GD with the info for the complaint :)
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Posted: 6/13/2016 6:32:03 PM EDT
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Sorry, GD does not cut it.
You have filed in NJ, therefor you need to post any further actions, results in the NJ forum. GD sucks!, opiates are needed to follow those threads. |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 6:35:13 PM EDT
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Thank you nolo. Is there a place to donate?
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Posted: 6/13/2016 6:36:37 PM EDT
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Sorry, GD does not cut it. You have filed in NJ, therefor you need to post any further actions, results in the NJ forum. GD sucks!, opiates are needed to follow those threads. He has filed in NJ, he is lucky they didn't arrest him at the courthouse. |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 9:28:46 PM EDT
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Thank you and best moving forward.
Members does this affect specifically NJ? Yes, I'm sure Nolo will do his best at keeping us informed. I won't be opposed to anyone help Nolo out by finding his update GD and quote posting them here. iF by chance there is a double post by anyone OR by two or more individuals just delete the info as a courtesy to us all and upper management. Good luck to us all. |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 9:32:55 PM EDT
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Thank you and best moving forward. Members does this affect specifically NJ? Yes, I'm sure Nolo will do his best at keeping us informed. I won't be opposed to anyone help Nolo out by finding his update GD and quote posting them here. iF by chance there is a double post by anyone OR by two or more individuals just delete the info as a courtesy to us all and upper management. Good luck to us all. I will update as I can! |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 12:28:32 AM EDT
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I have heard the "it can't happen, not here" before. But despite those words it did.
And I have in fact have been very let down by a half hearted attempt to replicate our work from 2013 in New Jersey in 2015. But I refuse to quit and I am glad Nolo is on the job making thing happen. When we quit we are done, so don't give in. |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 12:45:31 AM EDT
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And I have in fact have been very let down by a half hearted attempt to replicate our work from 2013 in New Jersey in 2015. That would be the failed recall attempt? |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 7:34:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryJust read through it. I'm not all that smart but are you trying to address the "justifiable" need thing? Because it sounds to me like the two plaintiff's met the justifiable need and should be awarded their permits. How is this supposed to help everyone else? If your case is won would that mean anyone in the state could apply and possibly get a CCW? I now it's not going to happen just like that I'm just trying to understand the complaint and what you are trying to do. Like I said, I'm not exactly smart. |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 9:45:59 AM EDT
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Safe to assume the facebook page will always have the most recent updates?
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Posted: 6/14/2016 10:18:53 AM EDT
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Safe to assume the facebook page will always have the most recent updates? Link? I followed one FB page but I'm not sure it's the right one. 
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Posted: 6/14/2016 11:42:16 AM EDT
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Link? I followed one FB page but I'm not sure it's the right one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Safe to assume the facebook page will always have the most recent updates? Link? I followed one FB page but I'm not sure it's the right one. https://www.facebook.com/Partyof6NJ/ |
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Posted: 6/14/2016 10:58:14 PM EDT
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Service of process begins tomorrow.
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Posted: 6/15/2016 1:07:26 AM EDT
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That would be the failed recall attempt? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And I have in fact have been very let down by a half hearted attempt to replicate our work from 2013 in New Jersey in 2015. That would be the failed recall attempt? Let's not derail this thread. Good things ahead. New Jersey was not ready for a recall. So on to a new front. Go Nolo ! And those in NJ willing to take a stand ... I salute you. |
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Posted: 6/15/2016 1:00:29 PM EDT
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Let's not derail this thread. Good things ahead. New Jersey was not ready for a recall. So on to a new front. Go Nolo ! And those in NJ willing to take a stand ... I salute you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And I have in fact have been very let down by a half hearted attempt to replicate our work from 2013 in New Jersey in 2015. That would be the failed recall attempt? Let's not derail this thread. Good things ahead. New Jersey was not ready for a recall. So on to a new front. Go Nolo ! And those in NJ willing to take a stand ... I salute you. Hear, hear!!! |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 8:48:12 PM EDT
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See ya'll on saturday!
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Posted: 6/24/2016 10:05:10 AM EDT
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40 minutes to Newark. Y'all ready for this??
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Posted: 6/24/2016 10:55:10 AM EDT
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"Enjoy" Newark.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 10:58:56 AM EDT
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I'd like to go, but its a 2 hour drive away and the daughter has something I have to take her to at noon.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 11:02:56 AM EDT
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Not sure if I can make it yet, but did we ever nail down anything in Newton for tonight?
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Posted: 6/24/2016 2:14:06 PM EDT
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Not sure if I can make it yet, but did we ever nail down anything in Newton for tonight? Nope. Traveling around right now. Doing stuff. 
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:47:11 PM EDT
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So, Newton isn't happening now?
Also, fuck Newark. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:35:25 PM EDT
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Nope. Traveling around right now. Doing stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure if I can make it yet, but did we ever nail down anything in Newton for tonight? Nope. Traveling around right now. Doing stuff. OK see you tomorrow then man. |
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Posted: 6/25/2016 8:35:01 AM EDT
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Interesting. I would hope this goes our way but there are some factors in constitutional
cases. There's precedent: Ninth District AP holding that the 2nd Amendment does not give the right to carry (I wonder what those assholes thought the "right to *bear* arms" means . . .) but maybe that issue will be revisited and "clarified." Then there's the fact that the Fed Court District of NJ is probably no less liberal than the Ninth District in Cal. On the other side, maybe this will finally show how New Jersey is not a "may issue' state and that it is virtually impossible for anyone, no matter haw valid the reason, to successfully obtain a CCW If this goes against the plaintiff and winds up in the Supreme Court (and they agree to hear it), hopefully Trump will be in the WH and has appointed the tie breaking conservative Justice. A tie vote in the Supreme Court would mean the lower court holding remains. Going with an "excuse" is what I'm thinking. In constitutional cases, the court tries to find a non-constitutional basis for deciding it so they don't need to change the status quo. In NJ, they'll do whatever they can to keep from hearing this issue. That's my best measured guess considering what has happened here in the past. Best of luck. Your going to have to "rub a lamp" if you think this will go anywhere IMHO. |
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Posted: 6/25/2016 11:08:54 AM EDT
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Shit! Doesn't look like I'm going to make it to RTSP today.
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Posted: 6/25/2016 11:09:38 AM EDT
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Double tap.
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Posted: 6/25/2016 1:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit! Doesn't look like I'm going to make it to RTSP today. |
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Posted: 6/25/2016 1:25:35 PM EDT
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We are here now.
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Posted: 6/25/2016 2:37:34 PM EDT
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Do you typically go on the weekends? After about 7 long months I finally found time to stop by there this morning and slang some lead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shit! Doesn't look like I'm going to make it to RTSP today. I haven't been there in a few months, I've been going to Cherry Ridge more. I had plans to go today but had some stuff come up and my plans got changed so I couldn't go. |
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Posted: 6/25/2016 5:05:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/27/2016 9:42:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2016 10:15:10 AM EDT
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Any news?
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Posted: 7/21/2016 2:19:39 PM EDT
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Any news? Status conference tomorrow! Will let y'all know how it goes. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 5:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySome familiar faces from NJ Pro Gun groups
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Posted: 7/22/2016 5:40:25 AM EDT
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. 
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Posted: 7/22/2016 7:12:39 AM EDT
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I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. Yeah. 
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Posted: 7/22/2016 8:43:06 AM EDT
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 9:49:30 AM EDT
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? What's that saying? "I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees." The citizens of NJ have been on their knees to the politicians in this state for too long. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:40:48 PM EDT
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? No, we should fight. It's just hard to get your hopes for things to change in your favor when you've lived in such a communist shithole and been beaten for so long. The outcome is always the same. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 8:28:24 PM EDT
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What's that saying? "I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees." The citizens of NJ have been on their knees to the politicians in this state for too long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? What's that saying? "I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees." The citizens of NJ have been on their knees to the politicians in this state for too long. NJ Politicians have the biggest teats of many states, except for maybe Kalifornication, New Jerk - to name 2, and they love giving away milk they did not produce and have no right to give away. However THEY DO! I fucking hate it here, please spare me the "well just go" - those of you who are usually here know why I am still here. If you know you are going to get slaughtered anyway, wouldn't you WANT to go out like the *300* - fight in the courts as best we can. If you do nothing I would not be surprised about mandatory confiscation at some point. If the fat lying *moustache-ride* giving kunt get in the White-washed House, *coming to a theatre near you*, it will. Don't go there. I did not say that to get your internet balls twisted; don't post anything really DUMB. Just let them know we may be on the ground, but we are not DEAD - yet. I forget, where can we donate? |
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Posted: 7/23/2016 8:02:12 PM EDT
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We had a conference with the judge on Friday. He set a briefing schedule for the defendants response to our motion for preliminary injunction and motions to dismiss if the defendants wish to file one (they will). Hearing is not set yet.
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Posted: 7/23/2016 9:07:22 PM EDT
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? No genius. Not what I said at all. Fight all you want. I know better. I've been fighting the good fight way before you even owned a firearm. I know how NJ works. You "out of State" boy's clearly don't. The corrupt NJ Liberal Democratic anti 2A "machine" will never let you win no matter what. They will lie, cheat and do anything to stop you from winning. Doesn't matter if your 100% within your legal rights or not. They will find a way to shoot you down whether legal or not. Doubt me? Then do some reading of how Frank Lautenburg became our Senator!!! Late in the 2002 Senate election against Republican Doug Forrester, Torricelli received a formal letter of admonishment from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics, for his involvement with campaign donor David Chang.[14][15] The investigation was later dropped when attorney Mary Jo White issued a letter of clearance.[16][17] In his withdrawal speech on September 30, 2002, he stated that despite leaving public office in a different way than he had planned, he was proud of his service.[citation needed] Shortly thereafter, the New Jersey Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the Democratic Party could legally replace Torricelli's name on the ballot with that of former U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Jersey,_2002 100% ILLEGAL but the NJ Supreme Court ruled other wise!! |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:53:08 AM EDT
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No genius. Not what I said at all. Fight all you want. I know better. I've been fighting the good fight way before you even owned a firearm. I know how NJ works. You "out of State" boy's clearly don't. The corrupt NJ Liberal Democratic anti 2A "machine" will never let you win no matter what. They will lie, cheat and do anything to stop you from winning. Doesn't matter if your 100% within your legal rights or not. They will find a way to shoot you down whether legal or not. Doubt me? Then do some reading of how Frank Lautenburg became our Senator!!! Late in the 2002 Senate election against Republican Doug Forrester, Torricelli received a formal letter of admonishment from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics, for his involvement with campaign donor David Chang.[14][15] The investigation was later dropped when attorney Mary Jo White issued a letter of clearance.[16][17] In his withdrawal speech on September 30, 2002, he stated that despite leaving public office in a different way than he had planned, he was proud of his service.[citation needed] Shortly thereafter, the New Jersey Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the Democratic Party could legally replace Torricelli's name on the ballot with that of former U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Jersey,_2002 100% ILLEGAL but the NJ Supreme Court ruled other wise!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news? I think you already know how this is going to go. I know I do. So..... We should give up without a fight? No genius. Not what I said at all. Fight all you want. I know better. I've been fighting the good fight way before you even owned a firearm. I know how NJ works. You "out of State" boy's clearly don't. The corrupt NJ Liberal Democratic anti 2A "machine" will never let you win no matter what. They will lie, cheat and do anything to stop you from winning. Doesn't matter if your 100% within your legal rights or not. They will find a way to shoot you down whether legal or not. Doubt me? Then do some reading of how Frank Lautenburg became our Senator!!! Late in the 2002 Senate election against Republican Doug Forrester, Torricelli received a formal letter of admonishment from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics, for his involvement with campaign donor David Chang.[14][15] The investigation was later dropped when attorney Mary Jo White issued a letter of clearance.[16][17] In his withdrawal speech on September 30, 2002, he stated that despite leaving public office in a different way than he had planned, he was proud of his service.[citation needed] Shortly thereafter, the New Jersey Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the Democratic Party could legally replace Torricelli's name on the ballot with that of former U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_New_Jersey,_2002 100% ILLEGAL but the NJ Supreme Court ruled other wise!! Jeezuz, Lugerman, we know you marched 20+ years ago - well at least I remember. Best said - NJ IS corrupt, PERIOD. The LAW is what the politicians and the appointed judges deem law. We are merely peons paying taxes and under their heel. Oh, and fuck them, the horses they rode in on and their children. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:17:44 AM EDT
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i donated a couple weeks ago.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:13:21 PM EDT
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Nolo, thank you, again.
I think the point Lugerman is trying to make, and indeed the point I was trying to make many weeks ago, is that you are trying to go about this by playing by their rules. The problem is they just change the rules as they go. Laws are for the law abiding, and our state government is anything but. New Jersey is in desperate need of a reset button. You can't win this fight in their court, it's a rigged match. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:00:18 AM EDT
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Nolo, thank you, again. I think the point Lugerman is trying to make, and indeed the point I was trying to make many weeks ago, is that you are trying to go about this by playing by their rules. The problem is they just change the rules as they go. Laws are for the law abiding, and our state government is anything but. New Jersey is in desperate need of a reset button. You can't win this fight in their court, it's a rigged match. Sadly this. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 10:41:26 AM EDT
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Nolo, thank you, again. I think the point Lugerman is trying to make, and indeed the point I was trying to make many weeks ago, is that you are trying to go about this by playing by their rules. The problem is they just change the rules as they go. Laws are for the law abiding, and our state government is anything but. New Jersey is in desperate need of a reset button. You can't win this fight in their court, it's a rigged match. If I remember right this wasnt in an NJ court, it was a federal. On mobile so I can't check right now. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 10:51:23 AM EDT
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If I remember right this wasnt in an NJ court, it was a federal. On mobile so I can't check right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nolo, thank you, again. I think the point Lugerman is trying to make, and indeed the point I was trying to make many weeks ago, is that you are trying to go about this by playing by their rules. The problem is they just change the rules as they go. Laws are for the law abiding, and our state government is anything but. New Jersey is in desperate need of a reset button. You can't win this fight in their court, it's a rigged match. If I remember right this wasnt in an NJ court, it was a federal. On mobile so I can't check right now. Federal court. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 10:05:29 PM EDT
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Nolo, thank you, again. I think the point Lugerman is trying to make, and indeed the point I was trying to make many weeks ago, is that you are trying to go about this by playing by their rules. The problem is they just change the rules as they go. Laws are for the law abiding, and our state government is anything but. New Jersey is in desperate need of a reset button. You can't win this fight in their court, it's a rigged match. If I remember right this wasnt in an NJ court, it was a federal. On mobile so I can't check right now. Federal court. I'm pretty sure any ruling there is nearly meaningless here. How's that Heller ruling working out for DC, NY, IL, or CA? 8 years since Heller and it's worse in those places than it was before the ruling. They'll change the law just enough (or ignore the ruling entirely) to maintain the carry ban. 2018, Sweeny, SAFE 2.0, is all anyone needs to know about where NJ is heading in the fight against tyranny. They won't even have to try hard, a raise of hands, and a pen swipe away from every gun banner's wet dream. |
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