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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:45:29 AM EDT
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Just read it and came here to post...MY HEAD ALMOST 'SPLODED
FUCK THIS STATE RIGHT IN THE ASS WITH A RED HOT POKER This poor fuck will be victimized twice and the second assault will make his wife's look like a slap on the ass Oh and FUCK those guys.. |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:48:49 AM EDT
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story here so, what exactly did he do wrong? 2 Things: 1. Apparently married the crazy and2. decided to live in NJ - I am guilty of one of those 2 mistakes. is our state really this fucked up? YES |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:13:05 AM EDT
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I love this place....
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Posted: 8/9/2014 3:31:02 PM EDT
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"There was no initial indication that the weapons and ammunition are illegal, he said."
WTF arrest him, destroy his property and then figure out if he did anything illegal. I hope he has a good lawyer. Sounds like a good civil suit case. So I have gas heat and a gas range is my place dangerous to myself and my neighbors? I could make a big bang. 
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Posted: 8/9/2014 4:46:47 PM EDT
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I love this place.... TPNI |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 5:36:08 PM EDT
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they got a search warrant because they saw that he had 2 gun safes?
Did just read that right? Is this crazy or what? |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 5:39:44 PM EDT
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I believe I see in one of the pictures a M1A1 Paratrooper Carbine. That's not good.
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2014/08/man_stabbed_by_wife_arrested_after_gunpowder_weapons_found_at_saddle_brook_home_police_say.html#incart_m-rpt-1 |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 6:32:43 PM EDT
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they got a search warrant because they saw that he had 2 gun safes? Did just read that right? Is this crazy or what? So let me get this straight... Crazy wife stabs him, somewhere in there 911 called. Cops respond, see safes. What was reasonable cause for search warrant? And how is it prosecutable and not thrown out? |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 10:20:53 PM EDT
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I need to get the fuck out of this state.
eta: Those dipshits in blue should be prosecuted, tried, convicted, and locked away for society's own good.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 11:46:58 PM EDT
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Guess I should take the stickers off my car for fears of prosecution. .....FML
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Posted: 8/10/2014 8:26:47 AM EDT
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Here's the problem: Media Bias ( especially in NJ ) towards weapons of any kind, every story involving firearms is going to put a spotlight on how bad and evil firearms are,
and the fact that the NJ Justice Dept. is loaded with rabid anti-gun zealots. 
And this: His wife, Eileen Lintner, was charged with second-degree aggravated assault and illegal possession of a weapon, a knife. Anyone wanna bet it was a kitchen knife 
And last but not in the least, the author and editors of this story are obviously well versed in anti-gun propaganda
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Posted: 8/10/2014 9:36:16 AM EDT
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Anyone wanna bet it was a kitchen knife The bitch was probably making him a sammich. |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 10:12:14 AM EDT
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I need to get the fuck out of this state. <snip> My greatest fear is dying in this state, it is beyond depressing. John Lennon who's politics were  , told a story where he and Ono were having a tiff. "I'm going for a pack of cigarettes." Her didn't return for 2 years.
I don't smoke, but the wife knows this story. With each ticktock those words "so familiar." Oh, and I won't be returning. |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 11:05:49 AM EDT
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Here's the simple fact about NJ:
If the police are called to your house for anything questionable(domestic, neighbor dispute, wrong address warrant) and you have guns, you will lose your guns. Police, prosecutors and the media will do everything they can to take them away. |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 11:16:57 AM EDT
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that is not true.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 12:23:30 PM EDT
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Anyone wanna bet it was a kitchen knife The bitch was probably making him a sammich. I have to laugh at that one 
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Posted: 8/10/2014 2:53:52 PM EDT
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Crazy wife stabs him, somewhere in there 911 called. Cops respond, see safes. What was reasonable cause for search warrant? And how is it prosecutable and not thrown out? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Crazy wife stabs him, somewhere in there 911 called. Cops respond, see safes. What was reasonable cause for search warrant? And how is it prosecutable and not thrown out? Cops were called. An act of domestic violence was committed. A member of the household was arrested for DV. Procedure is to remove all firearms from the house in that instance. The LETTER of the law (somewhere in 2C:25-21) states: upon observing or learning that a weapon is present on the premises, seize any weapon that the officer reasonably believes would expose the victim to a risk of serious bodily injury. However, this simply becomes "seize any weapon, regardless of ownership, just because we can". Somewhere, either during the initial search, they discovered the black powder. NJ law prohibits possession of more than 5 lbs. of black powder. At that point, they have evidence of a crime. Bingo - he's also arrested on that charge, therefore, sieze all weapons, crack open all safes, and he's fucked. They'll cut him a deal to drop the charge of powder possession, but he'll forfeit everything they seized. AND - if any of those seized firearms turn out to not be NJ-legal... well, then a whole new ballgame starts. |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 5:20:45 PM EDT
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Prayer to God
Almighty Father Creator of all, please help me get the fook out of here before I turn to worm meal, suffer Alzheimer's, or anything else that will impede my total enjoyment of firearms, binaries, MG, SBRs, and supressors. Amen. Ahhh, I feel better already! 
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Posted: 8/11/2014 9:38:47 AM EDT
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Prayer to God Almighty Father Creator of all, please help me get the fook out of here before I turn to worm meal, suffer Alzheimer's, or anything else that will impede my total enjoyment of firearms, binaries, MG, SBRs, and supressors. Amen. Ahhh, I feel better already! Do eet! |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:47:17 AM EDT
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Not simple, no not at all.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:54:12 AM EDT
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Not simple, no not at all. I know brother...took me forever |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 11:42:42 AM EDT
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I know brother...took me forever Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not simple, no not at all. I know brother...took me forever I could do it tomorrow but losing 50% of everything casts a short future shorter not to mention the obvious missing SO. 
"Game" is on here, my SO knows I must die on hallowed grounds and thrown to better winds than here.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:30:09 PM EDT
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Cops were called. An act of domestic violence was committed. A member of the household was arrested for DV. Procedure is to remove all firearms from the house in that instance. The LETTER of the law (somewhere in 2C:25-21) states: However, this simply becomes "seize any weapon, regardless of ownership, just because we can". Somewhere, either during the initial search, they discovered the black powder. NJ law prohibits possession of more than 5 lbs. of black powder. At that point, they have evidence of a crime. Bingo - he's also arrested on that charge, therefore, sieze all weapons, crack open all safes, and he's fucked. They'll cut him a deal to drop the charge of powder possession, but he'll forfeit everything they seized. AND - if any of those seized firearms turn out to not be NJ-legal... well, then a whole new ballgame starts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Crazy wife stabs him, somewhere in there 911 called. Cops respond, see safes. What was reasonable cause for search warrant? And how is it prosecutable and not thrown out? Cops were called. An act of domestic violence was committed. A member of the household was arrested for DV. Procedure is to remove all firearms from the house in that instance. The LETTER of the law (somewhere in 2C:25-21) states: upon observing or learning that a weapon is present on the premises, seize any weapon that the officer reasonably believes would expose the victim to a risk of serious bodily injury. However, this simply becomes "seize any weapon, regardless of ownership, just because we can". Somewhere, either during the initial search, they discovered the black powder. NJ law prohibits possession of more than 5 lbs. of black powder. At that point, they have evidence of a crime. Bingo - he's also arrested on that charge, therefore, sieze all weapons, crack open all safes, and he's fucked. They'll cut him a deal to drop the charge of powder possession, but he'll forfeit everything they seized. AND - if any of those seized firearms turn out to not be NJ-legal... well, then a whole new ballgame starts. Um, never knew that
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:50:10 PM EDT
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Um, never knew that
The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:08:25 PM EDT
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The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Um, never knew that
The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. Interesting, wonder what kind of damage 5 lbs. of black powder can do if it lit up at once, let alone kill ya ? |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:50:36 PM EDT
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Interesting, wonder what kind of damage 5 lbs. of black powder can do if it lit up at once, let alone kill ya ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. Interesting, wonder what kind of damage 5 lbs. of black powder can do if it lit up at once, let alone kill ya ? Depends on pressure. I used to have a powder box, it was very heavy wood covered in thick tin. The bottom was made of same wood but slotted, about 3/4" between boards. In the event of accidental ignition, while closed, the pressure of BLACK powder would vent over a period of time below the "ka-boom" point. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 9:41:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on pressure. I used to have a powder box, it was very heavy wood covered in thick tin. The bottom was made of same wood but slotted, about 3/4" between boards. In the event of accidental ignition, while closed, the pressure of BLACK powder would vent over a period of time below the "ka-boom" point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Um, never knew that The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. Interesting, wonder what kind of damage 5 lbs. of black powder can do if it lit up at once, let alone kill ya ? Depends on pressure. I used to have a powder box, it was very heavy wood covered in thick tin. The bottom was made of same wood but slotted, about 3/4" between boards. In the event of accidental ignition, while closed, the pressure of BLACK powder would vent over a period of time below the "ka-boom" point. Edit: Because of flies and shit |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 10:31:00 AM EDT
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. I highly doubt it. Even if they wanted to COMPLETELY stretch the statute, and "claim" that possessing ammunition is "storing" powder.... let's take .223 ammo. At about 25 grains of powder per round, you'd need over 10,000 rounds to exceed 36 lbs. of powder. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 10:41:19 AM EDT
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I highly doubt it. Even if they wanted to COMPLETELY stretch the statute, and "claim" that possessing ammunition is "storing" powder.... let's take .223 ammo. At about 25 grains of powder per round, you'd need over 10,000 rounds to exceed 36 lbs. of powder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. I highly doubt it. Even if they wanted to COMPLETELY stretch the statute, and "claim" that possessing ammunition is "storing" powder.... let's take .223 ammo. At about 25 grains of powder per round, you'd need over 10,000 rounds to exceed 36 lbs. of powder. 
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Posted: 8/14/2014 7:46:18 PM EDT
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The statute is 21:1A-133, and allows storage of not more than 36lbs. of smokeless powder, and not more than 5lbs. of black powder. Any more than this amount requires a permit issued from the Commissioner of the Dept. of Labor and Industry. Interesting, wonder what kind of damage 5 lbs. of black powder can do if it lit up at once, let alone kill ya ? Depends on pressure. I used to have a powder box, it was very heavy wood covered in thick tin. The bottom was made of same wood but slotted, about 3/4" between boards. In the event of accidental ignition, while closed, the pressure of BLACK powder would vent over a period of time below the "ka-boom" point. Sorry but I got a chuckle out of this line. "Large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k". 
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Posted: 8/17/2014 1:10:17 AM EDT
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I highly doubt it. Even if they wanted to COMPLETELY stretch the statute, and "claim" that possessing ammunition is "storing" powder.... let's take .223 ammo. At about 25 grains of powder per round, you'd need over 10,000 rounds to exceed 36 lbs. of powder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. I highly doubt it. Even if they wanted to COMPLETELY stretch the statute, and "claim" that possessing ammunition is "storing" powder.... let's take .223 ammo. At about 25 grains of powder per round, you'd need over 10,000 rounds to exceed 36 lbs. of powder. As a follow-up... NJ Administrative Code, Title 12, Chapter 190 (Explosives), Subchapter 1, section 1.3 (Scope) says, "this chapter shall not apply to [...] 6. Small arms ammunition". |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:39:58 AM EDT
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. I wouldn't advertise what ur bringing to our God awful state |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 9:18:23 AM EDT
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Is there any way they could use this to apply to large amounts of ammunition, say 3 or 4k? I plan on moving back to nj in the spring and thats what I would be bringing. I wouldn't advertise what ur bringing to our God awful state This is true... do you play open face poker? Me, only with the wife, she says "Poker?" Always the good hubbie, I amble on over and poke her. <rimshot> Seriously there are many like minded individuals here, but this IS and open forum and the wall has many flies and flies eat shit you know. Coffee anyone? 
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Posted: 8/21/2014 5:00:52 AM EDT
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Why do I come back here. Its very depressing. Attempting to get condo on the market next spring. Once I'm setup in VT ill hold an open invitation for a BBQ and shoot out at the range in my damn yard hahaha.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:11:55 AM EDT
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Why do I come back here. Its very depressing. Attempting to get condo on the market next spring. Once I'm setup in VT ill hold an open invitation for a BBQ and shoot out at the range in my damn yard hahaha. You are correct, never look back. Look what happened to Lot's Wife the LAST time she looked back.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:40:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prayer to God Almighty Father Creator of all, please help me get the fook out of here before I turn to worm meal, suffer Alzheimer's, or anything else that will impede my total enjoyment of firearms, binaries, MG, SBRs, and supressors. Amen. Ahhh, I feel better already! Wait, binaries are illegal? As in exploding targets? |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:12:30 PM EDT
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Wait, binaries are illegal? As in exploding targets? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Prayer to God Almighty Father Creator of all, please help me get the fook out of here before I turn to worm meal, suffer Alzheimer's, or anything else that will impede my total enjoyment of firearms, binaries, MG, SBRs, and supressors. Amen. Ahhh, I feel better already! Wait, binaries are illegal? As in exploding targets? This is not America, this is NJ. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not America, this is NJ. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Prayer to God Almighty Father Creator of all, please help me get the fook out of here before I turn to worm meal, suffer Alzheimer's, or anything else that will impede my total enjoyment of firearms, binaries, MG, SBRs, and supressors. Amen. Ahhh, I feel better already! Wait, binaries are illegal? As in exploding targets? This is not America, this is NJ. Good to know. |
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