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Posted: 7/7/2016 12:32:42 AM EDT
I cannot [expletive] believe U.S. scope manufacturers.  Every domestic scope I've been able to find is adjustable in minutes of angle (MOA), including ones with milliradian reticles.  It's like it is completely beyond these fools that someone may actually want a scope where the reticle and adjustments have the same damn units of measure.







Could I trouble one of you Brits (or other Europeans) for pointers on a scope that uses milliradians for both the reticle and the adjustments?  I presume that if there is one place I can find this, it's in the U.K.










The only domestic option I found was something sort of good that's made in China.




 



EDIT:  The Trijicon TARS103 doesn't count.  It's over $4K.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 10:55:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Leupold Mk4 AR has a mil turret and mildot reticule. Excellent scope for the money.

I picked mine up from Scotsdale GC last year.

There are other makes available.
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 2:56:01 AM EDT
[#2]
I was under the impression most scope manufactures offered a mil-mrad version, Vortex offer this on most of their range as I have two PST's and a Razor in this option, here are a few options for you although you may have sorted this out now as this reply is a little late.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/razor-hd-gen-2-45-27x56-riflescope-with-ebr-1c-mrad-reticle/reticle

http://www.opticsplanet.com/sightron-siii-3-5-10x44mm-rifle-scope-siiiss3-510x44md.html

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scopes/rifle-scopes/compact-nxs-2-5-10x42mm-riflescopes-prod58259.aspx?avs%7cReticle_1=Mil-Dot

http://www.usoptics.com/optics/mr-10.html

http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/viper_pst_riflescopes

Tried to find a range from different places so hopefully something will fit the bill
Link Posted: 8/2/2016 9:30:23 AM EDT
[#3]





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I cannot [expletive] believe U.S. scope manufacturers.  Every domestic scope I've been able to find is adjustable in minutes of angle (MOA), including ones with milliradian reticles.  It's like it is completely beyond these fools that someone may actually want a scope where the reticle and adjustments have the same damn units of measure.
Could I trouble one of you Brits (or other Europeans) for pointers on a scope that uses milliradians for both the reticle and the adjustments?  I presume that if there is one place I can find this, it's in the U.K.
The only domestic option I found was something sort of good that's made in China.





 
EDIT:  The Trijicon TARS103 doesn't count.  It's over $4K.





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Really?







Leupold makes several mil/mil optics





As does Vortex





and Night Force





And US Optics (they also have MOA based reticles for moa/moa)
And Bushnell
And SWFA (but probably not made in the US)







Schmidt and Bender (Germany) is a popular European optic, and is used by the British military, and German military, and the US military  (mostly Navy and Marines) and several other militaries around the world.





 



 
Link Posted: 8/2/2016 10:00:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Hensoldt, IOR, and Kahles are the other top Euro manufacturers of tactical optics. I don't know if they specifically offer what you are looking for, but IOR in particular has a very wide range of options.
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