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Posted: 7/1/2012 7:37:30 AM

THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT
..to this site.....?

Go away for a few months and come back to a women's institute coffee morning...

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Posted: 7/1/2012 2:21:12 PM
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From Wikipedia....:

Their leadership came from the non-politically correct congregations of British Dissenters who had fled the volatile political environment in the United Kingdom Hometown Forum of AR15.com and left for the relative calm and tolerance of the World Wide Web. Concerned with losing their cultural identity, the group later arranged with English investors to establish a new colony online. The colony, established in 2012, became the second successful British settlement (after the founding of four4islands.org, in 2011) and later the oldest continuously inhabited British Civilian Service Rifle shooting website in what was to become csrshooter.co.uk. The CSR Pilgrims' story of seeking intellectual freedom has become a central theme of the history and culture of Civilian Service Rifle shooting.


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Posted: 7/1/2012 4:59:03 PM
Steve, you have too much time on your hands.......... go Taser someone.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:50:21 PM
Originally Posted By littlefraggle:
..to this site.....?

Go away for a few months and come back to a women's institute coffee morning...



What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.

Only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:38:36 AM

Originally Posted By mikefortyfive:
Steve, you have too much time on your hands.......... go Taser someone.

I thought it was rather ironic, Miltonesque even....
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:31:22 AM
Originally Posted By IcarusY625:
I thought it was rather ironic, Miltonesque even....


Why, did Milton quote Wiki..

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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:12:34 AM
Originally Posted By Dave-UK:
Originally Posted By littlefraggle:
..to this site.....?

Go away for a few months and come back to a women's institute coffee morning...



What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.



What happened was some of the serious shooters decided the forum had gone down hill, then set up troll accounts and drove it into the ground

On the plus side we do now have two sites to use now
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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:27:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave-UK:


What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.


They 'left' because they got all butt hurt when the feds told them they had to play nicely with the other children who want to play different games.


ETA - reduction in the level of offence it might cause to disadvantaged or otherwise challenged kids
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Posted: 7/2/2012 4:12:22 PM
Originally Posted By Individual:

Originally Posted By Dave-UK:


What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.


They 'left' because they got all butt hurt when the feds told them they had to play nicely with the other children who want to play different games.


ETA - reduction in the level of offence it might cause to disadvantaged or otherwise challenged kids


Many of us have not left. We just choose to spend more time in a forum that suits our needs in terms of our shooting preferences.

More than 80 of us have just spent five intense days shooting a national competition on four different ranges. We are also friends who know oneanother personally and socialise together frequently.

Part of the problem was that our banter between friends was being played out in an open forum for the world to see, and a number of people tried to jump into the group without ever getting to know us or find out what the forum was built on..........namely Practical and CSR competition shooting with centrefire rifles.

Nobody was Butt-hurt. Our numbers grew and our needs simply evolved to a point where a dedicated and more private forum was seen as more appropriate.

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Posted: 7/2/2012 10:32:50 PM

Originally Posted By IcarusY625:
From Wikipedia....:

Their leadership came from the non-politically correct congregations of British Dissenters who had fled the volatile political environment in the United Kingdom Hometown Forum of AR15.com and left for the relative calm and tolerance of the World Wide Web. Concerned with losing their cultural identity, the group later arranged with English investors to establish a new colony online. The colony, established in 2012, became the second successful British settlement (after the founding of four4islands.org, in 2011) and later the oldest continuously inhabited British Civilian Service Rifle shooting website in what was to become csrshooter.co.uk. The CSR Pilgrims' story of seeking intellectual freedom has become a central theme of the history and culture of Civilian Service Rifle shooting.




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Posted: 7/3/2012 4:44:05 AM
Originally Posted By Individual:

They 'left' because they got all butt hurt when the feds told them they had to play nicely with the other children who want to play different games.


ETA - reduction in the level of offence it might cause to disadvantaged or otherwise challenged kids


Not quite.

The UKHTF was primarily the home of people who shot practical or civilian service rifle; though that was not the only discipline it covered. A large number of members had either left or been banned from the airgunbbs site and were generally not interested in the level of pointless bollocks that is prevailant at that site. Most of the people who posted on here knew each other (from the aforementioned matches) and so there was a similar level of banter that you would expect to find in a local pub.

A number of new members started posting on the UKHTF and changed the dynamic of the place. The original members were keen to distance themselves from airsoft and other walt-tastic activities that generally put shooters in a bad light in the UK; believing that the UKHTF should primarily be about Practical and Civilian Service Rifle - this meant they weren't exactly delighted when it started appearing in the UKHTF. Additionally some of the new members found it necessary to post "clever" comments in every thread and believed that they were experts on all things shooting. Because they did not know the older members personally, butting in to personal discussions and trying to get in the limelight all the time did not go down very well. This caused considerable disagreement and some of the new members decided to involve the site's owners; stating that they thought they were being picked on and bullied.

The site owners (as is their right) stated that everyone was welcome on the UKHTF and they wanted the arguments to stop. After a short while of trying (and failing) to get things to work, one of the old crew of CSR shooters decided to do something about it and set up another forum; one that was not open to all. This site was set up to be for what the UKHTF had been used for originally - a place for Practical and Civilian Service Rifle shooters to get together. The moderators who had served the site for some considerable time, gave up the responsiblity as it was more hassle than it was worth. To use the pub metaphor, having found the pub overrun with tourists, the locals decided to set up their own private club and leave the tourists to get on with it.

This meant that the vast majority of the old members of UKHTF no longer bothered to post on the site - although most do pop in for a look from time to time. Not only did this mean a massive reduction in posts - but it also denied people who were interested in CSR etc a place where they could find out about it and ask sensible questions. Such people can join the new forum; however they usually have to be referred by an existing member and start as a probationary member.

The original members of the UKHTF who left are much happier and presumably the people that caused them to leave are happier too. A win all around.


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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:30:12 AM
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Is there a real value to this thread? I thought Gavin was one of the ones that had gone over to CSRShooter anyway.

BlackKnight says those former UKHTF members that left are happier where they have gone, and good luck to them

Can't we just leave it at that rather than dig it all up all over again, as this thread will then be in danger of degenerating into another slanging match, and what's the point of that?
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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:58:30 AM

Originally Posted By DavidTS:
Is there a real value to this thread? I thought Gavin was one of the ones that had gone over to CSRShooter anyway.

BlackKnight says those former UKHTF members that left are happier where they have gone, and good luck to them

Can't we just leave it at that rather than dig it all up all over again, as this thread will then be in danger of degenerating into another slanging match, and what's the point of that?

meh OK.

Only my opinion, but I miss the degenerate slanging matches.

For sensible mature discussions about classic FM, wood polish an tomato planting I can go on fullbore.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:44:53 AM

Originally Posted By DavidTS:
Is there a real value to this thread? I thought Gavin was one of the ones that had gone over to CSRShooter anyway.

BlackKnight says those former UKHTF members that left are happier where they have gone, and good luck to them

Can't we just leave it at that rather than dig it all up all over again, as this thread will then be in danger of degenerating into another slanging match, and what's the point of that?

It's not a question of having 'gone over'. csrshooter allows us to follow the main thread (pun intentional) of our common interest without all the irrelevant stuff that became the norm on here. Most still use other forums within AR15.com, just not the UKHTF so much as there isn't much of interest here anymore. There's no reason for this or any other UKHTF thread to become a slanging match.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:47:47 AM

Originally Posted By mikefortyfive:
Steve, you have too much time on your hands.......... go Taser someone.

That only takes 5 seconds........
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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:13:16 PM
Yeah but the post deployment procedure takes ages with CSI picking up all your little flakes and wires as you guys go and high five back in custody over a prisoners cup of instant hot chocolate......shouting "Thats right Iceman....I am dangerous....!!!"

I love my job of standing in the rain waiting for CSI......
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Posted: 7/3/2012 6:05:48 PM

Originally Posted By mikefortyfive:
Yeah but the post deployment procedure takes ages with CSI picking up all your little flakes and wires as you guys go and high five back in custody over a prisoners cup of instant hot chocolate......shouting "Thats right Iceman....I am dangerous....!!!"

I love my job of standing in the rain waiting for CSI......

You're just making life too difficult. That's what happens when you get promoted beyond Sergeant, you have nothing else to do.... Why do they pick them all up. they are all the same you know? Anyway, we give Taser to pretty much whoever wants it these days...
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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:05:21 PM
While I can't give out any real info yet, everyone should be ready for some more changes around here.


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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:55:07 AM
Originally Posted By Dave-UK:
Originally Posted By littlefraggle:
..to this site.....?

Go away for a few months and come back to a women's institute coffee morning...



What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.



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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:02:56 AM
Originally Posted By America-first:
Originally Posted By Dave-UK:
Originally Posted By littlefraggle:
..to this site.....?

Go away for a few months and come back to a women's institute coffee morning...



What happened was the serious shooters left. The serious shooters who buy AR-15's to use in PR & CSR national competitions.



http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i43/joshcote/576290_420630804621816_115091227_n.jpg




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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:06:19 AM
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
While I can't give out any real info yet, everyone should be ready for some more changes around here.




No real info, hmmm, ok fair enough what about some clues then?
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:11:40 AM

Originally Posted By HSurf:
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
While I can't give out any real info yet, everyone should be ready for some more changes around here.




No real info, hmmm, ok fair enough what about some clues then?

Let's just say that the "layout" of the pub is going to change.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:39:58 AM
Sub-forums within the UKHTF to cater for different interest groups & topics would be cool.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 12:00:02 PM
Are you gonna repaint the nicotine stained ceiling and make the smokers go outside?
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Posted: 7/4/2012 2:46:31 PM

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

Originally Posted By HSurf:
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
While I can't give out any real info yet, everyone should be ready for some more changes around here.




No real info, hmmm, ok fair enough what about some clues then?

Let's just say that the "layout" of the pub is going to change.

So is it going to be a wine bar or a fun family themed venue?
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Posted: 7/4/2012 4:32:27 PM
Gay Bar?






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