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Are centrefire semi auto rifles legal for use in EU countries for hunting?

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Posted: 1/20/2012 12:23:39 AM
They were banned in the UK back in the late 80s, but you could hunt with them when they were legal, AR-15s being somewhat popular. The UK is quite unusual in having CF SLRs and pistols banned, as even the more anti-gun European countries usually allow both to some degree (restrictions on capacity and features are fairly common).

Often the high-capacity and/or militaristic firearms are frowned upon within hunting, sometimes with accompanying legal restrictions. I couldn't give you a comprehensive list of each country, but there are certainly some countries in which they are used.

Pistol hunting is another contentious issue. Just the carrying of a dispatch pistol (they are still legal in the UK) is unpopular with many.
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Posted: 1/20/2012 12:48:40 AM
Germany is okay with them, but you are restricted to "TWO round magazines"


Which sort of makes it a ridiculous option, although I'm told that some may or may not have 20+ round magazines on them while hunting...

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Posted: 1/20/2012 7:56:52 AM
Finland allowes three round magazines. Suppressors are also kosher.
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Posted: 1/20/2012 12:04:51 PM
Here mags must be capped at 2 rounds.

Also you will run into problems with caliber minimums of 6.5mm for any animal lager than a rabbit (+rules on minimum energy for different animals).

Hunting is a snobby business populated by gun haters here so your black rifle will likely be looked upon with horror. The best part is you will need a hunting license that cost multiple thousands of dollars to hunt on land you actually own.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 6:26:36 PM
France: semi-auto is allowed provided that:
- the magazine is fixed/permanently attached
- the magazine has a maximum capacity of two rounds
- the firearm doesn't chamber a "military round" (no .308W, .30-06 ...)
- the overall length of the firearm is > 80cm (31.5")
- the barrel length is > 60cm (23.6") for a shotgun (smooth bore barrel)
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- the barrel length is > 45cm (17.7") for a rifle



I agree with iggy1337 to some extent.

Hunters in France come from all social classes, including snobby individuals infatuated with themselves because they own 8000EUR custom-engraved rifles although they don't know how to shoot.

There's a significant number of hunters who fail to understand that firearms ownership is threatened (although it's frigging obvious !). They tend to think that "they're just hunter" and are somewhat immune to the BS from gun grabbers.

Even worse, some of them would be willing to surrender our [target shooters] ARs, SIGs and handguns in order to "protect their non-threatning, not-scary looking hunting rifles". Those hunters completely fail to understand that we're on the same ship, with no lifeboats. Throwing us overboard is not going to get them any extra chances 'cause there's no frigging lifeboats anyway ....
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Posted: 1/23/2012 12:10:56 PM
I was just wondering

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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:42:43 PM
Very informative.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:21:17 AM
Hello, Austrian hunters may use semi-autos - provided the hunter has a concealed carry permit.
Sounds illogical but the "reason" for this is that the hunting permit only covers weapons of:
Category C: bolt action or single shot rifles
& Category D: single or multibarrel shotguns

To use a Category B type weapon (a handgun for backup or said semi-auto) a hunter must do some brown-nosing with his state's hunting commission and
has shot a required amount of wild boar in the area he leases for hunting. - When I think of it that sounds like leveling in some sort of RPG
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:34:38 PM
What about pump rifles?
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Posted: 1/29/2012 8:56:53 AM
Originally Posted By kalju:
Finland allowes three round magazines. Suppressors are also kosher.

No, only two-rounders are legal.
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Posted: 1/29/2012 9:30:38 AM
Originally Posted By CRC:
What about pump rifles?


Pump rifles are ok by the Austrian law (Category C), pump shotties are a no-go.
Other repeating an semi shotguns are considered category B weapons the same as a semi-rifle.

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Posted: 1/30/2012 3:31:51 AM
Originally Posted By swerdeofwar:
Originally Posted By CRC:
What about pump rifles?


Pump rifles are ok by the Austrian law (Category C), pump shotties are a no-go.
Other repeating an semi shotguns are considered category B weapons the same as a semi-rifle.



Pump rifles and shotguns are gtg without round limits.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 8:12:17 AM
Originally Posted By CRC:
What about pump rifles?


Banned in anything but .22 Rimfire calibres. PA shotguns are legal. CF pump-action rifles go in the same class as automatic weapons.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 10:52:18 AM
France:

- pump action rifles : OK, up to 10+1 rounds
- pump action shotguns:
–––– smooth bore = evil WMD, forbidden unless older guns that were grandfathered
–––– rifled barrels (think Remington 870 Express "Deer" or "Slug" models) = OK (as they are considered rifles), though some people consider this a loophole



As always, antis have been able to push legislation based on Hollyweird BS.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 9:07:47 PM
Originally Posted By swerdeofwar:
Originally Posted By CRC:
What about pump rifles?


Pump rifles are ok by the Austrian law (Category C), pump shotties are a no-go.
Other repeating an semi shotguns are considered category B weapons the same as a semi-rifle.



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Posted: 1/30/2012 9:09:44 PM
Originally Posted By CESM:
France:

- pump action rifles : OK, up to 10+1 rounds
- pump action shotguns:
–––– smooth bore = evil WMD, forbidden unless older guns that were grandfathered
–––– rifled barrels (think Remington 870 Express "Deer" or "Slug" models) = OK (as they are considered rifles), though some people consider this a loophole



As always, antis have been able to push legislation based on Hollyweird BS.


Is that for hunting, ownership or both? Thanks
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Posted: 1/31/2012 4:44:50 PM
Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By CESM:
France:

- pump action rifles : OK, up to 10+1 rounds
- pump action shotguns:
–––– smooth bore = evil WMD, forbidden unless older guns that were grandfathered
–––– rifled barrels (think Remington 870 Express "Deer" or "Slug" models) = OK (as they are considered rifles), though some people consider this a loophole



As always, antis have been able to push legislation based on Hollyweird BS.


Is that for hunting, ownership or both? Thanks


In short: both.

Also hunting with one of those "pump action shotguns with rifled barrels" (I have two of them but I do not hunt, I just do some mall ninja target shooting with them ) would raise a few eyebrows if not trigger some control by game wardens.

Heck even a lever action Marlin/Winch 94 might be frowned upon by some snotty hunters.

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Posted: 2/2/2012 11:08:57 PM
So semi autos with 2 round magazines would be kosher but pump action firearms would be frowned upon?

There is at least one state in the US I think that bans semi autos but not pumps.

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