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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:36:11 AM EDT
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I think the unemployment rate is around 4 percent. So job market is good. Cost of living is reasonable. You could maybe come work at Lockheed or Northrop Grumman or be a contractor/consultant on base. NFA is okay here. One thing to mention..... I know here in Omaha (if you live in city limits) you have to register your handguns which sucks. I am sure others will have more info/advice for you. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:04:34 AM EDT
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Ahhh, this raises the Omaha question -- it appears that Omaha is catering to attracting the young families, young business minded types, the artsy fartsy types, etc. And most of these "types" vote Communist / Liberal. Any concerns with Omaha, which has the higher demographics, overwhelming a state vote and Nebraska goes the way of Colorado ??? For your sakes, and my own if we elect to relocate there, I would hope not. Although, Colorado may be getting back to it's sanity, but tomorrow's election will tell us for sure.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:35:33 AM EDT
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There is always cause for concern and vigilance wherever you live..... But I am happy because we ousted our Liberal mayor the first in recent memory (who was an idiot) and voted in a Conservative Lady who isn't shy to be pro gun. And even mentions that she conceal carries on occasion. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:40:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahhh, this raises the Omaha question -- it appears that Omaha is catering to attracting the young families, young business minded types, the artsy fartsy types, etc. And most of these "types" vote Communist / Liberal. Any concerns with Omaha, which has the higher demographics, overwhelming a state vote and Nebraska goes the way of Colorado ??? For your sakes, and my own if we elect to relocate there, I would hope not. Although, Colorado may be getting back to it's sanity, but tomorrow's election will tell us for sure. Offutt Air Force Base, where you're likely to find your aerospace-related job, is located in Sarpy County. It's directly south of Omaha, which is in Douglas County. Sarpy is a mix of suburban and rural. We don't have the problems with gangs and crime like the "big city" does - but like stated above, it's not completely immune like everywhere else in the world. I really only go into the city to see some friends who still live up there or for occasional shopping/food/entertainment. And Sarpy is quickly growing in options for the latter. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:06:24 AM EDT
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GREETINGS FELLOW ARFCOMERS FROM THE FREE STATE OF ARIZONA, It may sound a bit crazy, but the wife and I are looking to relocate out of the Great State of ARIZONA, THE #1 GUN RIGHTS STATE - TWICE RATED BY GUNS AND AMMO MAGAZINE. I know, I know you're probably thinking "Are you CRAZY!!!!" Well indeed it will be a very hard decision for us to make, as we are rabid 2nd Amendment Supporters and have enjoyed Arizona for almost 30 years. The reasons are several-fold --- I work in the Aerospace industry (Apache AH-64) and things are slowing down / both daughters have moved to the Midwest and momma wants to be closer to each / and with retirement always on the horizon, we want to settle in a part of the country that is stable. Although Arizona is stable at the moment, but we do have job quantity issues, water issues, etc. So the questions are:
Thanks in advance for everyone's time and I look forward to your input. Zscaleplanet - Mesa, Arizona |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:06:02 AM EDT
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We're always looking for a few good people to come to Papillion.
Papillion is just up the road from the base and several of the big defense contractors. #8 Best Place to Live: Papillion has once again been rated a Best Place to Live by Money magazine. For 2013, Papillion is ranked #8 on the list. More information on the ranking is available here. This is the fifth consecutive time Papillion has made Money’s list since 2005, and the fourth consecutive Top 10 Best Place ranking. Money’s Best Places ratings alternate between big cities and small cities every other year. Best Place in Nebraska to Raise Kids: Bloomberg Businessweek magazine has named Papillion as the best place to raise kids in Nebraska. Click here to learn more about the criteria used to make this determination. #1 Small Town in America 2012: Papillion was ranked as the #1 Small Town in America in 2012 by Livability.com, a website that specializes in identifying the best places in America to live and visit. You can read the Livability description of Papillion on their web site. Congratulations to every resident, business and community partner that made this recognition possible. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:23:47 AM EDT
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If you wish to stay in the aerospace field you could also look into Duncan Aviation.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:42:25 PM EDT
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EXCELLENT FEEDBACK from all and I sincerely appreciate everyones time.
Interesting info on Omaha. Granted, from the 30,000 foot level looking down, Omaha looks to be a great city. But digging a bit deeper -- not so much. Although, we could say the same thing about Phoenix. Although the great equalizer in Arizona is that there are no requirements for concealed carry -- not even a license required. So you never know who is armed and who is not. It has perpetuated a downward trend in Arizona's crime rate. Papillion and Sarpy sound like great alternatives. As for continuing in the military aerospace industry, it appears that the "Dear Leader" has managed to dessimate or military so badly, that we are reeling from the effects to the point that the big dogs like Boeing, Lockeed and Northrup are starting to lay off folks. Our site here in AZ is already starting the process. And the trickle down effects to the small businesses that deal with us are already taking their toll and are only going to get worse. However, I will continue to look at the industry as a foot in, just in case we pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:00:06 PM EDT
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Except for Omaha, Open carry is unregulated in Nebraska and perfectly legal. In Omaha one must either have a CCW permit or a carry permit from the city.
The current and hopefully re-elected Mayor of Pappilion is a NFOA member a supporter of the 2nd. Amendment. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:05:22 PM EDT
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We're always looking for a few good people to come to Papillion. Papillion is just up the road from the base and several of the big defense contractors. #8 Best Place to Live: Papillion has once again been rated a Best Place to Live by Money magazine. For 2013, Papillion is ranked #8 on the list. More information on the ranking is available here. This is the fifth consecutive time Papillion has made Money’s list since 2005, and the fourth consecutive Top 10 Best Place ranking. Money’s Best Places ratings alternate between big cities and small cities every other year. Best Place in Nebraska to Raise Kids: Bloomberg Businessweek magazine has named Papillion as the best place to raise kids in Nebraska. Click here to learn more about the criteria used to make this determination. #1 Small Town in America 2012: Papillion was ranked as the #1 Small Town in America in 2012 by Livability.com, a website that specializes in identifying the best places in America to live and visit. You can read the Livability description of Papillion on their web site. Congratulations to every resident, business and community partner that made this recognition possible. My wife's aunt owns The Flower Patch in Papillion and her uncle owns one of the big barber shops. It's a very nice community. If you like living in a big town. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:26:25 PM EDT
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And for all intents and purposes Papillion, LaVista, Bellevue, Ralston, Elkhorn etc..... are all connected to Omaha. They are all individual but are all part of the Metro area. So you can live in whichever you choose and have access to all of them. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 12:07:49 AM EDT
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Except for Omaha, Open carry is unregulated in Nebraska and perfectly legal. In Omaha one must either have a CCW permit or a carry permit from the city. The current and hopefully re-elected Mayor of Pappilion is a NFOA member a supporter of the 2nd. Amendment. WOW --- EXCELLENT ON OPEN CARRY !!! (Omaha noted) Always an encouraging sign. Same here in Arizona, but actually you do not see alot of folks carry open. A few here and there, but more so most carry concealed. Indeed, everything I am seeing is that Nebraska is a "thumbs up" state. Have driven through several times in my life and have always felt as though Nebraska was the heart of America, so hence the interest. One of the daughters lives in Sioux Falls, but it's a bit more colder and snowy. From what I see of Nebraska, being just that minor bit South, makes quote a bit of difference, but we are also looking for a change. I am actively looking at various employment ops in the state so this will be a slow process for sure. I'm am not opposed to taking my procurement skills into another industry, in fact actually looking forward to being able to do that. But I also have a well rounded skill set for the corporate world, etc. The comments thus far have been invaluable and indeed we are looking at the various towns and cities suggested. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 1:10:39 AM EDT
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I think the unemployment rate is around 4 percent. So job market is good. Cost of living is reasonable. You could maybe come work at Lockheed or Northrop Grumman or be a contractor/consultant on base. NFA is okay here. One thing to mention..... I know here in Omaha (if you live in city limits) you have to register your handguns which sucks. I am sure others will have more info/advice for you. Get a concealed handgun permit and this requirement goes away. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 2:22:52 AM EDT
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Don't move to Douglas County.
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Posted: 11/5/2014 1:41:09 PM EDT
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CCW training class costs about $100 and there's a $100 fee to register with the state patrol. The shooting portion of the CCW training class is a farce, but better than some other states.
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Posted: 11/6/2014 11:36:44 PM EDT
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CCW training class costs about $100 and there's a $100 fee to register with the state patrol. The shooting portion of the CCW training class is a farce, but better than some other states. Arizona has "Constitutional Carry" -- basically, anyone can carry open or concealed with no permit / license required. However, you can take the classes (about $50-$75), which does require a qualification shoot. Nothing difficult mind you. My wife and I both carry concealed and we have our permits that must be renewed every 5 years if you desire to have a permit that is. But there are pro's and con's to this law. Our CCW instructor, who was a Sheriff Deputy for Joe Arpaio (you gotta love that), explained that by taking the class and getting the permit, it does offer a higher degree of defense if you ever do need to use your weapon to defend yourself. In essence, it says to the court "I took the time and had the concern, so as to get the necessary training in order to fully understand the laws and rules for carry concealed." He noted that he has seen it play favorably for those that did have their permits, especially in a self-defense shooting situation. This year alone, I think our legislature added 4-5 new laws for "gun rights". Gotta love Arizona for that. So it will be a hard decision if the wife and I do decide to pull up stakes. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 8:07:45 PM EDT
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So the questions are:
I moved from the Mesa/AJ area two years ago to the more rural portion of Nebraska(Valentine); I'm pretty sure we have some mutual friends that work at Boeing. I will tell you that I absolutely love it here on the whole; but it isn't a colder version of Arizona if that is what you are looking for. Gun Rights? NFOA is good, but it's not AZCDL. I think they are doing great things in the environment they have to work with. The Pistol Purchase permit and lack on Constitutional Carry will bug the heck out of you. NFA wise I haven't had any issues at all. Jobs/Economy? I imagine in 'metro areas' of Omaha and Lincoln there are non agricultural jobs. The rest of the state? From what I've seen your job is in some way connected to farming or ranching, either directly or supported by it. I will say that the unemployment rate here is very low, if you want work you will find it. My county is around 2% Weather? It doesn't bother me any, I actually think the cold weather here that is bad lasts a lot less the the unbearable hot portion of the year in AZ. Unlike AZ summers, here the winters do have some breaks in the cold/snow. Spring, Summer, Fall; simply amazing compared to AZ. Bad areas? I wouldn't live east of Grand Island, but that is a personal thing about not liking a high population density. I like living were it less than 1 person per sq.mile. If you like hunting or fishing, I think you'll find Nebraska is extremely better than AZ. PM me if you want. |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 1:15:37 AM EDT
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CCW negates many of the negatives of Omaha. I like it here. Stay out of North O and you're fine.
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Posted: 11/11/2014 3:45:57 AM EDT
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CCW negates many of the negatives of Omaha. I like it here. Stay out of North O and you're fine. Nothing wrong with north O. 
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Posted: 11/11/2014 4:40:29 AM EDT
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CCW negates many of the negatives of Omaha. I like it here. Stay out of North O and you're fine. Nothing wrong with north O. You're the reason I told him to avoid it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 9:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're the reason I told him to avoid it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: CCW negates many of the negatives of Omaha. I like it here. Stay out of North O and you're fine. Nothing wrong with north O. You're the reason I told him to avoid it. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 1:26:17 AM EDT
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CCW negates many of the negatives of Omaha. I like it here. Stay out of North O and you're fine. Nothing wrong with north O. You're the reason I told him to avoid it. 
You son of a bitch. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:22:13 PM EDT
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Don't move to Douglas County. Why? |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:37:11 PM EDT
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Don't move to Douglas County. Why? Agreed with Zaphod, Douglas county is fine, just get a CCW immediately. I have a few recommendations for instructors, PM if you need info. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 11:26:26 PM EDT
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Is Douglas county a part of omaha city limits?
I don't register guns. Period. |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 12:34:44 AM EDT
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP
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Posted: 2/4/2015 10:29:47 AM EDT
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Property taxes are generally higher in Douglas county than the surrounding area.
Omaha and it's 3-mile "taxing district" has an extra "wheel tax" on anything that rolls(including motorcycles and utility trailers) in addition to very expensive auto licensing fees. Higher sales tax than the surrounding counties and an extra restaurant tax that is figured after the sales tax is applied. If you are hooked up to the Metro Utility District water/sewer system, your water bills will soon be at least $80/month due to Fed. mandated sewer separation project. Likely to go over $100/month in the future. I live just NW of Omaha in Washington county, but when I retire in 9 1/2 years, I still wanna get the fuck out of this place. |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 8:34:34 PM EDT
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP CCW's don't have to register? |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 2:33:10 AM EDT
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP CCW's don't have to register? Nope |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 12:57:02 AM EDT
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP CCW's don't have to register? Nope That's handy! Is it true you must be a resident for 180 days before you can apply for a CCW? |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 1:31:32 AM EDT
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That's handy! Is it true you must be a resident for 180 days before you can apply for a CCW? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP CCW's don't have to register? Nope That's handy! Is it true you must be a resident for 180 days before you can apply for a CCW? Shit, yeah I forgot about that aspect. |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 10:56:48 AM EDT
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It is. That's why I said get your CCW ASAP CCW's don't have to register? Nope That's handy! Is it true you must be a resident for 180 days before you can apply for a CCW? If you are a current Concealed Permit holder in a state that is recognized by Nebraska, the 180 day wait is waived and Minnesota IS on that list: https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/media/10076/recognitionofconcealedhandgunpermits.pdf http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2433 (c) If an applicant is a new Nebraska resident and possesses a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun issued by his or her previous state of residence that is recognized by this state pursuant to section 69-2448, such applicant shall be considered a resident of this state for purposes of this section; |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 4:22:17 PM EDT
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Don't move to Douglas County. Why? Omaha is slowly annexing the entire county. If you like Omaha ordinances, school boards, and all the other bullshit that Omaha does, then move to Douglas County. You will be conquered like Elkhorn, whether you like it or not. |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 4:51:54 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if anyone mentioned the weather, if that's a concern of yours. Hot, humid summers (like 80-90% or worse relative humidity), wind, cold winters. Cold wind (wind chills, brrr...) Last few years the snow hasn't been too bad. Oh did I mention wind? Not as bad as Wyoming, but still....learn to read wind if you're gonna shoot long distances.
There are a few days or sometimes up to a week at a time of low humidity, mild temps in the spring and fall. Not real often though. I'm sure you've researched jobs already, Offut AFB in Omaha (civilian opportunity??), Duncan Aviation in Lincoln may be a possibility for you, Air national guard base in Lincoln? as a civilian employee, maybe?? 
If you're used to large urban/suburban areas, you're in for a bit of a culture change once you get a few miles out of either Lincoln or Omaha...lots of farm ground in the east/central part of the state, more ranches west. Gun laws are pretty good, excepting the Pistol purchase permit. Pay $5 to Sheriff or Police dept, have a little card good for 3 years so you can buy a handgun.??? Goofy law, don't know why we still have it. That's all I can think of for now, ask if you need anything specific. |
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