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Howdy folks,

I am currently a LEO in North Carolina. My family will probably be relocating to the Kansas City area on the Kansas side sometime in the next couple of years. My wife is from Lee's Summit, and we want to be close to her family, but not too close to them. Plus, we have some friends in Johnson County and would like to be near them as they have kids the same age as ours.

I haven't decided yet if I am going to look for a sworn LE job in Kansas, or just get something that my 16+ years of LE experience will help me with. If I go with the latter, obviously I will be getting a Kansas CHP. On the other hand, if I go sworn, is there an advantage to having a Kansas CHP? In North Carolina the CHP acts as a handgun purchase permit (people without CHPs have to get purchase permits from the sheriff, at $5 a pop, and sometimes limited by various policies), and exempts the holder from the NICS check on all firearms purchases. Is any of that the same in Kansas?

I'll probably end up with a Kansas CHP either way, but I was curious if it was helpful for anything other than carrying a handgun.

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Posted: 7/30/2012 11:19:28 AM
If approved after "x" date, it serves as a bypass to the ncis check. But, I have had a dealer tell me they will not honor that and require a ncis check anyway. YMMV. There are plenty of dealers around that offer LEO discounts, as well.
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Posted: 7/30/2012 11:26:14 AM
Originally Posted By kc215:
If approved after "x" date, it serves as a bypass to the ncis check. But, I have had a dealer tell me they will not honor that and require a ncis check anyway. YMMV. There are plenty of dealers around that offer LEO discounts, as well.


Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to be able to bypass the NICS check with the permit, that is the nice thing about the permit in NC. When I lived in Virginia I used to get delayed on a regular basis, I was always approved in the end, sometimes in 5 minutes, sometimes a day or two later. Apparently someone who has similar information to mine was either wanted or was a prohibited person.

As I said, I'll probably get a permit either way, just to be safe.

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Posted: 7/30/2012 12:12:06 PM
I am a retired LEO in Kansas. I have my LEOSA Card from retirement, my KS CWP, and currently authority to carry form my part time job as a LEO. Advantages to having all three. The least of which is to avoid the NICS check with the CWP . When you move here contact me and I'll buy you lunch.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 1:27:35 AM
If you are looking for an LEO job at the moment JOCO Sheriff is hiring.
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Originally Posted By SuperSixOne:
If you are looking for an LEO job at the moment JOCO Sheriff is hiring.

So are Olathe and Lenexa.

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/olathe/default.cfm

http://www.lenexa.com/hr/career.html
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Thanks for the replies folks. Does anyone have any input on the various agencies in the Johnson County area? I'm not sure yet that I want to go with a patrol type job, I have spent most of my sixteen plus years in LE on patrol. I like my current department well enough, but I am tired of rotating shifts, and nights, weekends, and holidays away from my family. Plus, I am a supervisor where I am, but I am about the same age as all of the supervisors above me in rank, and we are not big enough (about 40 sworn) for me to reasonably expect to be able to move up much farther. We are all likely to be retiring about the same time.

Still, for the right environment and money, I'd take another job doing patrol, especially if I could expect to get some other assignment after "paying my dues". Primarily I'd like to avoid working rotating shifts, and avoid 12 hour shifts if possible.

Thanks!
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The Sheriff's Office is hiring mainly for deputies to work the jail. I know they bid a shift based on seniority. Their department is about 500 deputies with about half of them staffing their two jails. The jail deputies are sworn deputies too and it is their manpower pool.
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Originally Posted By Landric:
Thanks for the replies folks. Does anyone have any input on the various agencies in the Johnson County area? I'm not sure yet that I want to go with a patrol type job, I have spent most of my sixteen plus years in LE on patrol. I like my current department well enough, but I am tired of rotating shifts, and nights, weekends, and holidays away from my family. Plus, I am a supervisor where I am, but I am about the same age as all of the supervisors above me in rank, and we are not big enough (about 40 sworn) for me to reasonably expect to be able to move up much farther. We are all likely to be retiring about the same time.

Still, for the right environment and money, I'd take another job doing patrol, especially if I could expect to get some other assignment after "paying my dues". Primarily I'd like to avoid working rotating shifts, and avoid 12 hour shifts if possible.

Thanks!

Might want to check out Lenexa, I know a guy who has worked Lenexa/Fairway and Joco Sheriff, he said JCSO was the best of the 3 but it isn't instant-greatness. You usually have to work in the Jail for 6-12months before transferring out.
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Also, JCSO is the best option if you don't want to work patrol anymore. They have 500+ deputies and only have between 8-12 assigned to patrol on any given shift.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 10:15:05 PM
Originally Posted By SuperSixOne:
Also, JCSO is the best option if you don't want to work patrol anymore. They have 500+ deputies and only have between 8-12 assigned to patrol on any given shift.


Thanks for the tip. I'll give them a look-see. I wouldn't mind working in the jail for a while if that is necessary, but a year or two is probably about my limit for that sort of duty. It is still about a year before any sort of move is going to be possible, but I want to know what my options are.
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