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Posted: 3/20/2012 4:12:40 PM

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I will be PCSing to Fairbanks in November (depending on if the Army gods don’t mess with me further lol) I was intending on driving up to WA then catching a ferry to AK and drive up through Anchorage to Fairbanks, I was wondering if it’s a good idea to continue with attempting the ferry route, or go through Canada, or just fly (rather not). I have lived in cold areas before (WA and Germany) none were as cold as AK. If I do drive what supplies are recommended to make the trek…? (I have a F150 4X4). Also to anyone’s knowledge are there any gun clubs in the Fairbanks area? I mostly do three gun but I really just love shooting. Any help would be appreciated.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 4:25:29 PM
Woaaa. That is a hard drive in November.

How much real winter experience do you have? It could get beastly cold in November Make sure you are prepared for a breakdown at -40 with no help for 6 hours.

As far as ranges go, there is the Beruit range on Cushman and a scattergun range a bit further north.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 4:41:17 PM
Have you looked at the ferry schedule to ensure that your routing works?
Not touching Canada is hard AND takes an extended trip
Didn't realize you could hit Anchorage on the ferry
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Posted: 3/20/2012 4:48:12 PM
Yeah I know… I was supposed to be going in July but the Army said “no, you can wait”. I have some experience driving in snow and such but not in -40 temps… I think the coldest I was exposed to, was in Germany and that was about 0. As I said I’d rather take the ferry from WA to AK because I’d rather not attempt a drive through Canada… I would report sooner but I have a school to go to in SEP/OCT. I’m already saving for AT tires and chains. I have quite a bit of cold weather clothing. I’ve been looking at the ferry schedule and so far it only goes out to SEP. If need be I’ll fly, id just rather not… and the ferry won’t go to anchorage from what I’ve seen the closest it gets is a town called Homer which is south of Anchorage.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 5:50:35 PM
What out, you can get lost in Homer.

I'd be surprised if the ferry operated much beyond October to Homer. But I know little about the ferry. Maybe make a phone call or two to verify the operating season terminates at the end of the published schedule.


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Posted: 3/20/2012 6:17:22 PM
Get your vehicle winterized for Alaska before coming up since yer coming up in the winter. Oil pan heat pad, etc.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 7:44:48 PM
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I drove from NC in January back in 08.
Like somebody else said, get your car winterized before you come up. We took the ALCAN route simply for speed and the AKARNG wouldn't cover the ferry on a PCS. Easiest thing to do is ship your guns with the shipping company (thats what we did minus 1 rifle) or use an FFL. There are number of good FFLs up here too. If you take a rifle through Canada do your research on paying to bring it through. It was like 25 bucks or so.

We brought 2 spare tires and ~10 gallons of fuel along with all kinds of winter/survival gear. I was not going to freeze to death in Canada. I think the passport rules changed since we came up. We just used my mil ID and wife used her dependent ID to get through the borders.

PM me if you have any specific questions. I'm at Fort Greely, but we're up at FWA all the time.

All our Hometown guys are pretty awesome too. Look forward to having you!
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Posted: 3/20/2012 7:52:42 PM
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There are two USPSA type clubs in town.

TAPS: We shoot outdoor from Apr to Oct and indoor Nov to Mar.

http://www.aimcomm.org/web/programs/taps

Bill Filiaga does USPSA, Steel Challenge, IDPA at his range and also gets some name trainers to Fairbanks such as Bennie Cooley, Mike Seeklander, and Phil Strader. He is a Master class shooter and also gives classes.

http://www.alaskagunner.com/

I am trying to get more 3 Gun Going in Fairbanks. Maybe you would like to help when you get here. The State 3 gun champaionship is held down on the Kenai on Memorial Day weekend and was a great match last year.

There are also some NRA military rifle type shoots (Not Highpower) getting started, I don't know the exact name for them but they are shooting at Wainwright. Unfortunately I am working when it is scheduled.

There is also Highpower, Cowboy, and The fish and game Indoor Range has leagues.

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Posted: 3/20/2012 9:23:34 PM
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Yea, drive up and get your rig winterised at once. F-150 4x4 is perfect.
Novemeber isnt all that bad until you hit the Yukon (Most years). I have driven it in October and November before and both we about the same. Caught a lil snow both times in Canada and in Delta, but the roads hadnt turned to shit yet by then. Bring tire chains just in case and cold weather gear. 2 spare tires are the minumum. Bring a couple gas cans full as well, service stations start closing down for the season in Sept/Oct. Go easy and dont kill your rig on the way up, some people get in a hurry in Canada and work their rigs way too hard trying to get out of it. Take your time so you dont leave yourself in a situation. Get plenty of sleep.

I'm not one to talk though... I did the Columbia, SC to Fairbanks run in 96 hours with my dad (Oct 08) and Fairbanks to Missoula, MT in 42 hours straight (May 09). Snowed on the way up and break-up with 2 blizzards on the way down.

Ferry sucks in the fall, and the routes are limited then as well.

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Posted: 3/20/2012 9:59:06 PM
That time of year you will go through LONG stretches of area that has no service/no gas. Carry extra gas with you
Be prepared, if you can not plug your car in (whether there is no plug or no electrictity for the warmers) it will freeze solid in a matter of hours at -40 and colder.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 11:23:36 PM
if you have any questions on winterizing you vehicle IM me I have done over 50 of them this past year. like others said take it slow and sometimes it can be pretty rough. I had 2 flat tires and 1 wheel fall off of the hub (uhaul equipment) but any hooo get good stuff. I would look at getting a set of LT blizzacks for the drive. are you going to tow anything behind you?
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:52:03 AM
You can take the ferry to Haines from Bellingham year round and that would shorten your drive considerably (still have to go through Canada). The cross Gulf ferry that goes to Whittier and Homer does not run in the winter. I think the last trip is Sep. I did Anchorge to Haines in January 08 in one day. Temp was -20F for most of the drive but it wasn't a problem.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 9:24:22 AM
Wow… I thank all of you for this plethora of information… I will look more into winterizing my truck it may be hard to get it done in TX (where I’m currently stationed) since the coldest it gets here is 38 degrees lol. I will not be towing anything I intend to by a truck cap so I can store extra stuff in my bed to protect them from the elements… I will start investing in more gear for the drive. I’ll be shipping most of my guns I may end up just bringing 3-4 with me only because we have a bug out event in OCT. I’ll look into that ferry from Bellingham, the army should finance it since I’m active duty. I cannot wait to get up there and do some shooting and hunting (im still a novice with the shooting and a noob to hunting). One of my battle buddies will be trying to join me on the drive so I don’t go solo. I look forward to getting up there and enjoying all there is in Alaska.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:00:14 AM
Welcome to the board- FINALLY!

Cant wait to do the drive w/ ya bro.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:00:58 AM
gonna cause a lot of trouble on the trip lol.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:36:43 AM
Originally Posted By DarthGully:
Wow… I thank all of you for this plethora of information… I will look more into winterizing my truck it may be hard to get it done in TX (where I’m currently stationed) since the coldest it gets here is 38 degrees lol. I will not be towing anything I intend to by a truck cap so I can store extra stuff in my bed to protect them from the elements… I will start investing in more gear for the drive. I’ll be shipping most of my guns I may end up just bringing 3-4 with me only because we have a bug out event in OCT. I’ll look into that ferry from Bellingham, the army should finance it since I’m active duty. I cannot wait to get up there and do some shooting and hunting (im still a novice with the shooting and a noob to hunting). One of my battle buddies will be trying to join me on the drive so I don’t go solo. I look forward to getting up there and enjoying all there is in Alaska.


It's beautiful up here, that said...winter can be a real bitch, at times. Bring a pair of arctic bags with ya, you may end up needing them if you break down, or have to stop somewhere. Long johns, gator mask, decent gloves, snow boots, wool socks...that sort of thing. If you have camp gear, keep it accessible in the back of the truck. Been told that due to altitude, climate, and how cold it can get, coleman fuel stuff can be twitchy, though I've never had a problem. When it's cold up here, cotton sucks.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:48:26 AM
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Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?
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Originally Posted By jevonniespapi:
Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?


Roads can be rough, though the state does a pretty good job. It is, however, a good idea to have two spares, as well as, a couple 5 gallon cans of gas. It's kind of hard to get across just how remote Alaska can be. Twice the size of Texas with a population of 610k, or so. Most are in Juneau, Anchorage, and Fairbanks areas. Much of the state is wilderness with many villages off the grid...and by grid I include the road system. We basically have 3 primary roads. Fairbanks is, more or less, at the end of the blacktop...well, not really, though that might help to get the idea across.

It is not unheard of for Fairbanks to get cut off from the rest of the state due to heavy snows, or flooding, to the south...or, for other reasons. Cost of energy, in Fairbanks, is through the roof. This morning, gas was 4.25 a gallon, and it is worse in the outlying areas. Having a good chunk of actual cash handy is a good idea.

Critters are everywhere. You'll need to be watchful when driving for moose, bear, bison, elk in the south, that sort of thing.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 2:19:29 PM
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Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?


Very legit
You will go for hundreds of miles with no services

You will have to enter Canada. Make sure you do your homework about what you can enter with and DO NOT try to get something through under the radar
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Originally Posted By jevonniespapi:
Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?


If you take the ferry to Haines, depending on wheat time you get in, probably a good idea to stay the night and leave in the AM. I pulled into Haines Juncttion and barely caught the only gas station attendant before they closed for the night. Also check the operating hours of the border crossings. I think be Canadian one north of Haines closes at night.


ETA: The road is completely paved now, just bumpy in some areas. You'll likely find construction that'll give you gravel roads. I've done the trip 4 times (3 summer , 1 winter) and only had one spared each time. A spare rim for my truck is upwards of $200 and I decided it wasn't worth it. Going to be caravanning down the ALCAN this May and I won't be doing anything different Han previous trips.
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Camping stoves that use compressed gasses dont work up here very well. think pressurized liquids instead. the propane type have problems when it is cold, as do alot of the non preheated liquid ones. if you drive expect to get stuck in watson lake in canada, that danm town is the only gas for 250 miles in either direction and they know it. gas pumps dont take card, and I swear the guy who runs the gas station also runs the hotel. gas station shuts down at 7 pm, re opened at 9 am. hotel was something like 200 bucks, and im pretty sure that the price went up 100 bucks at 701 pm . So yeah extra gas is important, knowing your gas mileage to a T, and knowing that it will drop by 1 or 2 due to the cold is also important(this can be partialy combatted by putting cardboard to block some of the airflow through the radaitor and keep engine running at optimal temp, you see it on diesels as a factory option to have grill bras to limit air flow, ). extra headlights on bumper are nice for that drive too, helps you avoide the mooses, bears, caribiou, yetis ect ect, just be sure you dont stress your alternator by going crazy. good tires, good tires, good tires, did i mention good tires. At really cold temps which may or may not happen that early in winter rubber loses flex and you can almost guarentee a sudden leak via broken bead if you just romp on the gas with cold tires(-40 ish is where I did it once, 2 at once, was impressive actually). I drove up in April and it was -20 some places, slept in my car(I was poor) in a ECWCS sleeping bag inside a 20 above bag and a head sock, not too bad actually.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 7:19:45 PM
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Originally Posted By jevonniespapi:
Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?


Bring a woman, and a spare.

EDIT: Better make that two spares.

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Originally Posted By Psychovore:
Originally Posted By jevonniespapi:
Any more ideas on absolutly necessary equipment/supplies to bring?


Ive heard of folks bringin more than one spare- how legit is this?


Bring a woman, and a spare.

EDIT: Better make that two spares.

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This may be the only issue so far.... LOL!


Any roadside camping along the way? Dont feel like payin over $200 for a hotel room....
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Yep, plenty for camping.

I would make Laird Hot Springs a must stop along the way... After a few days of driving, this is a godsend.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:52:28 PM
Have you ever driven on ice & snow without studded tires?
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Originally Posted By raven:
Have you ever driven on ice & snow without studded tires?


Heh I've never driven with studded tires
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