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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:04:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2017 1:02:32 AM EDT by timthemedic]
My permit expires on 4/25.

Monday is exactly 30 days from that date.  

So it sounds like I just squeaked in, right?  Nope.

My permit was originally issued in Blackhawk county.  Polk county says that I can't renew, because it was from a different county. (Fuck you Polk county) Per them, it has to be a new application.  Link

So, if I can't renew, and I have to get a "new" permit, can I use my 214 again and not pay for a class?

What is a good class?  Cheapest?  Quickest?

UPDATE:

Got the email/text that my permit was ready to pick up last week.  I anticipated getting it right at 30 days, but they did it sooner. 

A nice lady at the office helped me out and treated me right.  In and out with my new permit in 10 minutes. 

I didn't inquire as to anything else, I just STFU, handed her my 214 and license, she scanned it, took my picture and handed my permit a couple minutes later.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 4:14:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2017 4:17:50 PM EDT by yammerschooner]
Originally Posted By timthemedic:
My permit expires on 4/25.


So, if I can't renew, and I have to get a "new" permit, can I use my 214 again and not pay for a class?
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It is my understanding that you can, since it is a new permit. I don't have anything to prove it other than memory of conversations that happened shortly after the switch to "Shall Issue" in 2010 and again when guys started coming up for renewal in late 2015.

Looks like you are going to be unable to carry for 30 days though.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 4:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2017 4:26:00 PM EDT by timthemedic]
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Originally Posted By yammerschooner:


It is my understanding that you can, since it is a new permit. I don't have anything to prove it other than memory of conversations that happened shortly after the switch to "Shall Issue" in 2010 and again when guys started coming up for renewal in late 2014.

Looks like you are going to be unable to carry for 30 days though.
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IDK, I think I should be good.

My permit now is valid and expires in more than a month.  If they are making me get a "new" one, that's not going to invalidate my current permit that I'm aware of, and I should be able to apply right now, today, and have it completed before my current one runs out.  Which would give me two valid permits with differing expiration dates.  In theory at least.  

I looked through the code, and I didn't see anything that seemed to apply to the current situation.

I did a cursory look at a couple other county pages, and I didn't note other counties doing the same thing.  Looked through the code too, and I didn't note anything that will make my current permit invalid somehow based on a new application, didn't see anything that specifically said I couldn't apply for a new one now (and Polk county is very specific that it has to be a *new* application), nor did I note anything that would imply Polk county is 100% wrong.  Course, I am not a lawyer so I may be all fucked up here.  

For the record, I'm inclined to think they are doing this to make shit more difficult for us.

Fuck you again Polk county.  
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2017 8:48:23 PM EDT by Iowaredneck]
Originally Posted By timthemedic:
My permit expires on 4/25.

Monday is exactly 30 days from that date.  

So it sounds like I just squeaked in, right?  Nope.

My permit was originally issued in Blackhawk county.  Polk county says that I can't renew, because it was from a different county. (Fuck you Polk county) Per them, it has to be a new application.  Link

So, if I can't renew, and I have to get a "new" permit, can I use my 214 again and not pay for a class?

What is a good class?  Cheapest?  Quickest?
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10-8 did it on my phone forget the guys name but he was very quick to answer the few questions I had by emailI know a lot of people that used it all were very happy


https://10-8firearmsinstruction.com/
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:11:43 PM EDT
I'd think you could use your DD-214 for the new permit and carry on your old one until it expires.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:51:30 PM EDT
If you want, take the free and quick 30 minute DC Firearms Safety course. Since its new I agree your old DD214 should work. Also when I renewed my permit I did it a little early, had like 8 months left. According the counter ladies at the Polk county sheriff's office, your old permit is invalid on the date they issue the new one. I don't see that anywhere in the code, my take is that you're good until your current permit expires. INAL
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 11:13:25 AM EDT
If you wait until you are just under the 30 days you can always use your DD214. In this particular case you can use your DD214 since they are requiring a new issue. It only becomes a problem if you are trying to meet the renewal deadline. Then you can't use it under current requirements.
Link Posted: 4/7/2017 12:14:45 AM EDT
I applied, haven't heard anything back yet.  

I'm sure they will take their sweet ass time too.
Link Posted: 4/7/2017 9:40:38 AM EDT
A soon as the governor signs HF517 (any day now) permit renewals will no longer even require proof of re-training. Will make things more convenient for everyone hopefully.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:01:31 AM EDT
Got the email/text that my permit was ready to pick up last week.  I anticipated getting it right at 30 days, but they did it sooner.

A nice lady at the office helped me out and treated me right.  In and out with my new permit in 10 minutes.

I didn't inquire as to anything else, I just STFU, handed her my 214 and license, she scanned it, took my picture and handed my permit a couple minutes later.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 7:53:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By amaixner:
A soon as the governor signs HF517 (any day now) permit renewals will no longer even require proof of re-training. Will make things more convenient for everyone hopefully.
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is this still true? what part of the bill was this my wife is due for a renewal so Id like to be prepared when I go in with her. I am G2G for 4 years still
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 9:09:16 AM EDT
Half true. Renewals will no longer require retraining, but that part of the law doesn't take effect until July 1.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 11:22:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DeltaGunner7994:
Half true. Renewals will no longer require retraining, but that part of the law doesn't take effect until July 1.
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Which works because I know she has a while still before it's up
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