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Link Posted: 4/4/2017 2:28:22 AM EDT
NRA email says to expect a vote today... hope we're up and running.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:59:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 4:03:55 PM EDT by Vonbongo]
It started at 2:59.....to which it promptly was set aside for amendments before moving forward
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 4:02:13 PM EDT
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It started at 2:59.....
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YUP! Here's live stream info:

Facebook Live Stream Let's you comment and talk with other IFC followers

IA Legis live stream for all you non-FB types.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 4:07:09 PM EDT
any idea why it was deferred?
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 4:08:56 PM EDT
They need more time to screw it up.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 4:51:11 PM EDT
I see three amendments online as of right now. I'm looking for a 4th. The amendments all appear to be more than simple verbiage fixes.

Proposed by Kinney, Dawson, and Johnson.

Dawson is the floor manager, so I would assume his new version will pass.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:00:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 5:48:54 PM EDT by Vonbongo]
At ease now waiting on amendments to be passed out..

Amendments appear to be adding a live fire requirement to the permit section by Kenny.

Striking the use of force if another including retreat is viable, seems to want to keep criminals from using it weeks later.

Striking what appears to be unnecessary verbiage regarding permits renewal.

Amendment to youth shooting. Adult supervisor Can't be intoxicate or under the influence. - amendment passes 50-0

Amendment to remove capital carry defeated.

The change to the stand your ground provision appears to be the meat if I am reading these right.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:37:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vonbongo:
At ease now waiting on amendments to be passed out..

Amendments appear to be adding a live fire requirement to the permit section by Kenny.

Striking the use of force if another including retreat is viable, seems to want to keep criminals from using it weeks later.

Striking what appears to be unnecessary verbiage regarding permits renewal.

Amendment to youth shooting. Adult supervisor Can't be intoxicate or under the influence. - amendment passes 50-0

The change to the stand your ground provision appears to be the meat if I am reading these right.
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HUH?? Live fire for the permit? Please tell me its not what I think it is.
We spent years trying to get that sorta crap out of the permit process. Linn Co (Ikes) had something like 80% at 25yds test that eliminated many people who otherwise should have been able to carry.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:46:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aviator_1:


HUH?? Live fire for the permit? Please tell me its not what I think it is.
We spent years trying to get that sorta crap out of the permit process. Linn Co (Ikes) had something like 80% at 25yds test that eliminated many people who otherwise should have been able to carry.
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I might be reading it wrong. So far they haven't debated that provision. Right now it's hung up on capital-courthouse carry. They will vote on it here pretty soon. The amendment failed 33-16
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:49:17 PM EDT
Does someone have a link to the feed? I thought it was going to be televised ?
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:53:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 5:59:02 PM EDT by Vonbongo]
Kenny amendment to internet training requiring someone taking an online class to have to show proficiency, i.e. Shooting. Kenny is saying shooting or showing "proficiency" i.e. Knowing one end of the gun from the other although that's is not what the amendment reads.

It says "applicant has shown proficiency with a handgun on a firing range"

Apparently as an officer some woman took an internet class and then walked into the station and pointed a pink glock at him and asked for help learning to use it.

Amendment failed however it was closer at 21 yes and 29 no
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:59:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:11:23 PM EDT
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Thanks


Lol, this Johnson from Osceola is a real tool. Like a law banning a firearm at the Capital is going to actually stop anyone from showing up there.

nvm, cannot even watch the feed with all these piece of crap gun grabbers talking :/ I just pray it passes the Senate.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:59:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 8:09:07 PM EDT by EARRNHARDT3]
It passed
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:08:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 7:10:23 PM EDT by LOW50S]
with what amendments ?


haha taken from IGO page.... are they asking for you to kill it and send some money for next year??
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:09:48 PM EDT
Yes!!!
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:09:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 7:10:37 PM EDT by BigPony]
Just that part of it or the entire Omnibus 517 Bill? You people have to be clear. It was never called Stand your ground, that was just one portion of the bill.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:16:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 7:20:48 PM EDT by EARRNHARDT3]
The whole bill.

But now it has to go back to the House because of the amendments
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:20:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 7:21:21 PM EDT by BigPony]
Would any amendments have to be rectified with the House then? I just don't want to get my hopes up and declare victory before it is official? I heard before that if the Senate Ammends it, it then goes back to the House where they accept the amendments, or do not in which case it goes before a joint House/Senate Committee to try to work out the changes.

Does anyone exactly know what went down so that we can either pop the cork, or prepare for what happens next in the state house?
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:30:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2017 7:32:23 PM EDT by stewie97]
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Originally Posted By LOW50S:
with what amendments ?


haha taken from IGO page.... are they asking for you to kill it and send some money for next year??
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The amendments that passed were all good things. Most notably you can't be drinking while instructing your 9 year old how to handle a pistol.

ETA shouldn't be anything in there that the house doesn't like.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:40:18 PM EDT
Ok, cool. Yeah it does have to go back to the House then I see for a vote on the amendments, but according to IFC the House should not have any issues. Wonder when this last vote will come up.. hopefully very soon.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:40:32 PM EDT
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Get that shit outta here
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:41:44 PM EDT
Thank you IFC!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:57:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinS:
Thank you IFC!!!!!!
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Link Posted: 4/4/2017 8:30:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinS:
Get that shit outta here
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Get that shit outta here
Done. I forgot sorry
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 11:35:16 PM EDT
SCORE! Thanks IFC and everyone here that's kept on the legislators.
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 3:43:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By battleshipgrey:
SCORE! Thanks IFC and everyone here that's kept on the legislators.
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Link Posted: 4/5/2017 5:05:37 PM EDT
Thanks IFC. And Amanda Ragan can go fuck herself. I have no idea how she keeps getting reelected.
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 6:28:52 PM EDT
For the bill that legalized Suppressors,

HF 2279: AN ACT RELATING TO POSSESSING AND TRANSFERRING FIREARM SUPPRESSORS

C. A certification that has been approved under this section grants the person the authority to make or transfer a firearm suppressor as provided by state and federal law.


I see nothing in HF517, that grants us authority to own or make SBR or SBS?

What am i missing?
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 6:53:05 PM EDT
Division 1, Offensive Weapons

Section 724.1C

Short barreled boomstick section.

Enjoy!
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 9:27:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IowaUSN:
Division 1, Offensive Weapons

Section 724.1C

Short barreled boomstick section.

Enjoy!
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So, "in violation of Federal law" means legal to own and possess in the State of Iowa?

Thats all im seeing. Nothing definitive?
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 10:10:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iasc300ia:


So, "in violation of Federal law" means legal to own and possess in the State of Iowa?

Thats all im seeing. Nothing definitive?
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The first part strikes the paragraph considering SBR and SBS to be "offensive weapons" under Iowa law. The rest just means we must comply with federal regulations on them.
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 10:37:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Emegbers:
The first part strikes the paragraph considering SBR and SBS to be "offensive weapons" under Iowa law. The rest just means we must comply with federal regulations on them.
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Nice, ok thats the first explaination that makes sense to me.

Thanks for the clarification
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 11:03:54 PM EDT
Making America great again one sbr at a time.
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 12:26:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EARRNHARDT3:Done. I forgot sorry
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If you haven't been blocked at least twice by Aaron "The Scam Man" Dorr, you aren't doing your job
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 5:53:30 PM EDT
Anyone else watch Windschitl deliver a five finger death punch to IGO!!!! Totally friggin epic statement behind the mic!

Way to fight for our rights guys!

Brad
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 6:29:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BMPRacing:
Anyone else watch Windschitl deliver a five finger death punch to IGO!!!! Totally friggin epic statement behind the mic!

Way to fight for our rights guys!

Brad
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I need a cigarette after that. WOAH!
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 6:29:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BMPRacing:
Anyone else watch Windschitl deliver a five finger death punch to IGO!!!! Totally friggin epic statement behind the mic!

Way to fight for our rights guys!

Brad
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Sorry wrong video
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 6:40:56 PM EDT
Great ending!!!!

https://youtu.be/0PmNwo34Sl0
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 6:48:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 7:01:06 PM EDT
FANTASTIC!!
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 7:08:10 PM EDT
yahoo!!!!
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 8:14:32 PM EDT
I need to find out Rep Windschitl's favorite beer and send him a case. Half for all he's done for 2A in Iowa over the years, half for that amazing speech.

Link Posted: 4/6/2017 8:52:59 PM EDT
"I feel better."
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 9:42:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iasc300ia:


Nice, ok thats the first explaination that makes sense to me.

Thanks for the clarification
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Yeah, they kinda did some things weirdly. Instead of actually stating "this is now legal" they just literally drew lines through sections that said it was illegal lol. I am assuming the final printed bill will just have those parts ommitted instead of being left with strikeouts through them

I'm not the greatest at legalese. It would be cool if we could get a bullet point list of every single thing added/changed in the bill.
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 10:46:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yammerschooner:
"I feel better."
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YES! THIS!!!! LOL Almost everyone in the room laughed!

Brad
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 11:44:30 PM EDT
Out freaking standing!
Link Posted: 4/7/2017 12:04:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DeltaGunner7994:
I need to find out Rep Windschitl's favorite beer and send him a case. Half for all he's done for 2A in Iowa over the years, half for that amazing speech.

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Beer hell, I wanna get him some ammo!
Link Posted: 4/7/2017 12:06:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPony:


Yeah, they kinda did some things weirdly. Instead of actually stating "this is now legal" they just literally drew lines through sections that said it was illegal lol. I am assuming the final printed bill will just have those parts ommitted instead of being left with strikeouts through them

I'm not the greatest at legalese. It would be cool if we could get a bullet point list of every single thing added/changed in the bill.
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I am not a lawyer.  At all.  

But I believe this would fall under the "if its not illegal, then it is legal" thing.
Link Posted: 4/7/2017 1:52:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By timthemedic:
I am not a lawyer.  At all.  

But I believe this would fall under the "if its not illegal, then it is legal" thing.
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I just find the wording extremely odd and non-definative .

The offensive weapons part was omited, but i see nothing that says sbs and sbr are now legal to buy/own/make.

Thats what i really need to see to get my good feelings and to get excited.

You would think that if somethings that is an NFA item (and so scary) would have a crystal clear explination like the suppressor statement.
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