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Link Posted: 2/1/2017 3:32:49 PM EDT
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@septic-tank  I saw a thread here a few weeks ago, and was having the same thought myself.  Is there any use buying a can from you, and holding off on the stamp with hopes we get something passed this year?  I know the argument against it is to just do the form, pay the stamp, and then if the bill comes through then worst case scenario you're out the $250.  But I am of the mindset that I'd prefer to not do any more paperwork and submit anymore finger prints than I have to.  Not to mention, the $250 could be put towards an extra .22 can.  
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I've been thinking about similar. Buy a solvent trap, keep it as a solvent trap. Change things if the bill goes through, submit paperwork if it doesn't. That way if it goes our way, the bill's passage is shorter than NFA wait and if it doesn't I can still start paperwork.
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 11:21:28 PM EDT
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Haven't looked at the wording.  

Would that effectively make a Form 1 can a diy muzzle device with no paperwork?  Just buy the parts?
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The legislation as proposed would provide you with a tax credit, so the $200 tax stamp fee is not lost forever. With President Trump's son pushing this, I suspect it will pass as drafted.


Haven't looked at the wording.  

Would that effectively make a Form 1 can a diy muzzle device with no paperwork?  Just buy the parts?


The tax credit is for if you buy a tax stamp between the time the bill is introduced and the day it passes. Then the tax stamps go away.

So there's no harm in starting a form 1 at least.

That's from what I read, could be wrong.
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 12:17:42 PM EDT
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Got the glorious text today that not one, but two of my stamps made their way to Septic's.

Now if I could just pin him down on a time. Supposed to be 50 degrees this weekend!!
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 12:51:44 PM EDT
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I'm back on the clock! Took 6 months two weeks last time.

Hoping for Labor Day Weekend!
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 1:25:53 PM EDT
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Got the glorious text today that not one, but two of my stamps made their way to Septic's.

Now if I could just pin him down on a time. Supposed to be 50 degrees this weekend!!
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Congrats. I keep hoping for the same text. Sadly it may be summer before I get mine.
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 7:02:43 PM EDT
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Got the glorious text today that not one, but two of my stamps made their way to Septic's.

Now if I could just pin him down on a time. Supposed to be 50 degrees this weekend!!
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I got the text too! Now I need to find a gun with a threaded barrel for it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 11:30:33 AM EDT
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Congrats. I keep hoping for the same text. Sadly it may be summer before I get mine.
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Don't fret, I have cans that I bought BEFORE July and never got around to submitting... and now have procrastinated about the process, so the cans I bought FIRST will come in.... about December, 2017. Hah
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 1:49:00 PM EDT
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Don't fret, I have cans that I bought BEFORE July and never got around to submitting... and now have procrastinated about the process, so the cans I bought FIRST will come in.... about December, 2017. Hah
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What was your check cashed date for these?  May?
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 2:14:27 PM EDT
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Did them through silencershop, so no idea on when ATF actually took payment.

However my form 4's were "submitted" 4/29 and 5/4, so I'd venture a guess at saying yes, cashed in May.
Link Posted: 2/10/2017 11:54:34 AM EDT
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Don't fret, I have cans that I bought BEFORE July and never got around to submitting... and now have procrastinated about the process, so the cans I bought FIRST will come in.... about December, 2017. Hah
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Sadly with the changes with 41F/P and the timing of when we were allowed by our overlords the chance to wait in line for permission I could not find anything I wanted until almost the last minute.

With the rush I don't expect to see or hear anything until August or later. Which while it sucks to put down cash and have to wait a year plus I did it with the expectation that was going to be the case.
Link Posted: 2/10/2017 12:42:19 PM EDT
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Stamp #2 showed up yesterday! Form 4 individual was mailed 06/13/16.
Since its my 2nd rimfire can I'm half tempted to let it sit there for a couple months to see if HPA passes, that way I can cancel for a guaranteed $200 refund even if that part gets dropped from the bill. I won't shoot it much until it really warms up anyway.
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 5:31:01 PM EDT
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Item: Suppressor - Griffin M4SD II
Method: Trust
Purchased: 03/29/16
Form 3 sent: 04/25/16 - Rhine Group Firearms
Form 3 approved: 6/22/16. And shipped to Rhine Group Firearms
Form 4 mailed: 04/26/16
Check cashed: 06/06/16
Pending: 06/07/16
Approved: 02/25/17
Date it arrived in the mail: 03/02/17
Examiner: Sara Freena


Approved 02/25/17 - Stamp & picked up 03/02/17
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 6:13:05 PM EDT
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Form 4 Trust
Mailed- 7/8
Check cashed- 7/14

Still waiting on approval...
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 6:21:19 PM EDT
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So hopefully in march for mine with a check cashed date of 6/28/16.  It has been only

17,625,600 seconds
293,760 minutes
4896 hours
204 days
29 weeks and 1 day

Waiting sucks
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 6:23:11 PM EDT
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Congrats! Im waiting for 3 more at rhine. A m4-2000 went pending 6/6/16 so hopefully close for that one. My first 2 took 19days from approval to stamp received at rhine group. All of them are on a trust and the first guy to get his took 9 days or so approved to pickup and was filed individual. I know its a crapshoot as to when youll see the stamp but those guys will call you right away...they're good like that!
Link Posted: 3/6/2017 6:51:20 PM EDT
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Item: Suppressor - Griffin Spartan 3
Method: Trust
Purchased: 03/29/16
Form 3 sent: 05/04/16 - Rhine Group Firearms
Form 3 approved: 07/01/16. And shipped to Rhine Group Firearms
Form 4 mailed: 05/05/16
Check cashed: 06/12/16
Pending: 06/13/16
Approved: 03/05/17
Date it arrived in the mail: 03/11/17
Examiner: China Watkins


APPROVED 03/05/17 & picked up 03/11/17
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:31:13 PM EDT
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Just got mine for my Dead Air Mask yesterday. Check was cashed 6/22/16. Just shot it tonight and it is awesome. Got mine through Coates Guns in Corydon. Great to deal with. He even has a Silencer Shop kiosk.

Form 4 trust.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Just got mine for my Dead Air Mask yesterday. Check was cashed 6/22/16. Just shot it tonight and it is awesome. Got mine through Coates Guns in Corydon. Great to deal with. He even has a Silencer Shop kiosk.

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Congrats, I have a mask with a check cashed date of 6/28/16.  Still waiting on stamp but I got to shoot it a few months ago.  It is an amazing can.  The ATF needs to hurry up on mine now.
Link Posted: 3/29/2017 6:03:31 PM EDT
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Still waiting 14 days after approval. Mailman better check under his seat.
Link Posted: 3/30/2017 9:03:41 AM EDT
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+1 for Coates Guns, little bit of a drive though. Usually a pretty decent selection
Link Posted: 3/31/2017 10:23:08 AM EDT
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My 6/27/16 pending was approved on 3/29/17....now just waiting for stamp to arrive.

Stamp arrived 4/8
Link Posted: 3/31/2017 2:48:38 PM EDT
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Got two stamps in the last 2 weeks, will be picking both up this Monday at CCA.  

Check cashed: 6/13/16
Approved: 3/14/17
Date it arrived in the mail: 3/31/17

Check cashed: 6/14/16
Approved: 3/8/17
Date it arrived in the mail:3/22/17

Now I have to decide which SBR to go with....  
Link Posted: 4/1/2017 12:40:33 PM EDT
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Item: Suppressor - Dead Air Mask 22
Method: Trust
Purchased: 04/01/16
Form 3 sent: 04/04/16 CCA
Form 3 approved:06/08/16
Form 4 mailed:06/23/16
Check cashed:06/28/16 (Credit Card Charged)
Pending:06/29/2016
Approved:
Date it arrived in the mail:
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Today is a year since I purchased it.  Still pending as of Monday 3-27-16 (273 days).  I'll have to call again next week and hope its approved then.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 11:12:25 AM EDT
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Item: aem5
Bought sometime in may 2016, form 3 submitted shortly after
Form 3 approved: june 15 2016
Form 4 check cashed/pending: june 20 2016
Form 4 approved: march 13 2017
Stamp at dealer: march 27 2017

Love it so far, shot about 500rds through it and everyone is better then the last

Anyone local to mason city wants to give it try, let me know.  I try to get to the Hansel range a couple times a month, and heard they just opened it back up for the year

Link Posted: 4/4/2017 2:27:42 PM EDT
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Item: aem5
Bought sometime in may 2016, form 3 submitted shortly after
Form 3 approved: june 15 2016
Form 4 check cashed/pending: june 20 2016
Form 4 approved: march 13 2017
Stamp at dealer: march 27 2017

Love it so far, shot about 500rds through it and everyone is better then the last

Anyone local to mason city wants to give it try, let me know.  I try to get to the Hansel range a couple times a month, and heard they just opened it back up for the year

http://i67.tinypic.com/244zdxz.jpg
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Nice!
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 10:07:05 AM EDT
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Capital Armory
Item: Suppressor - Dead Air Mask 22
Method: Trust
Purchased: 04/01/16
Form 3 sent: 04/04/16 CCA
Form 3 approved:06/08/16
Form 4 mailed:06/23/16
Check cashed:06/28/16 (Credit Card Charged)
Pending:06/29/2016
Approved:04/04/2017
Date it arrived in the mail:
Examiner:
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Link Posted: 4/6/2017 3:02:45 PM EDT
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Capital Armory
Item: Suppressor - Dead Air Mask 22
Method: Trust
Purchased: 04/01/16
Form 3 sent: 04/04/16 CCA
Form 3 approved:06/08/16
Form 4 mailed:06/23/16
Check cashed:06/28/16 (Credit Card Charged)
Pending:06/29/2016
Approved:04/04/2017
Date it arrived in the mail:
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Nice, I wonder if they send them to dealers in batches. I hope yours pushes mine through. I'm on day 22 after approval.
Link Posted: 4/6/2017 7:20:48 PM EDT
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Nice, I wonder if they send them to dealers in batches. I hope yours pushes mine through. I'm on day 22 after approval.
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I hear after 30 days if your stamp doesn't show you can request one via certified mail.  I am hoping the ATF and Postal gods smile on me and my stamp gets to CCA soon
Link Posted: 4/13/2017 11:10:10 PM EDT
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@Beef1911

Did your stamp show yet?
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 11:54:55 AM EDT
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Just broke down and called ATF.. Still pending 7/14/16 on a form 4.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 3:41:25 PM EDT
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Nope, septic said he gets big batches every Wednesday. He doesn't think I should worry yet.

I am at 30 days, might have to look into getting a duplicate sent. I read the copy doesn't have an actual stamp, so it's not as cool.
Link Posted: 4/14/2017 8:22:51 PM EDT
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Nope, septic said he gets big batches every Wednesday. He doesn't think I should worry yet.

I am at 30 days, might have to look into getting a duplicate sent. I read the copy doesn't have an actual stamp, so it's not as cool.
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I was really hoping yours would be in.  It might give me some hope of mine being in soon.  If I were you I would still call on monday and request a certified copy.  If it is actually lost then your not waiting to start waiting on the copy to arrive.  If your real stamp arrives even better.  I may also be a little impatient, waiting 9+ months on the ATF, total of over a year since I bought my first can.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:46:04 PM EDT
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6/28/2016 submission went pending 7/5/2016 approved 4-12-17.  Nice lady says may take 30 days for form.

My 7/7/2017 submission didnt go pending until 7/22/2017.  Lots of forms in july

Have one form that took 35 days to get to the dealer.  Currently one that is at 18 days.  Others have taken as few as 8 days.
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 11:53:13 AM EDT
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6/28/2016 submission went pending 7/5/2016 approved 4-12-17.  Nice lady says may take 30 days for form.

My 7/7/2017 submission didnt go pending until 7/22/2017.  Lots of forms in july

Have one form that took 35 days to get to the dealer.  Currently one that is at 18 days.  Others have taken as few as 8 days.
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I see a lot of people with ones that went pending the last part of July. I am hoping that means my second can that went pending on 7/15/2016 is ahead of the huge last minute rush. Been waiting on my first stamp to arrive for 15 days now. Hoping that CCA gets another batch in today with mine.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 5:28:44 PM EDT
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Forgot to ask when he received it but I picked my first can today!! Pending 6/29/2016 approved 4/4/2017. Can't wait to try it this weekend.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 9:25:11 PM EDT
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Forgot to ask when he received it but I picked my first can today!! Pending 6/29/2016 approved 4/4/2017. Can't wait to try it this weekend.
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Cool, mine is in today too. Now have to make time to pick it up.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 5:25:24 PM EDT
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M4-2000
Form 4 trust

Pending July 8th, 2016

Stamp came in today April 28th, 2017
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 9:34:53 AM EDT
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6-29-16 atf says submitted.(card charged at the beginning of that month) called on 4-25-17 atf said it was approved on 4-5-17 Called Dakota silencer that same day and they still don't have paperwork back.
Link Posted: 4/30/2017 4:15:07 PM EDT
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Thanks Stronghold Corp, was a pleasure dealing with you.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 12:35:46 PM EDT
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M4-2000
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Silencer shop submitted one for me on 7/7/16. Called today. Still pending. ATF says 8 months, hah!

At this point, it's faster to have a child than it is for the government to OK me to own an aluminum tube. Pretty. Freaking. Sad.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 2:18:13 PM EDT
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Could be worse, you could have forgotten to put your name in one stinking box and been denied 10 months later...... yeah true story, now I have to submit a new application with finger prints and all.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 2:09:17 AM EDT
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Currently at 9 months 21 days of them having my money. It's time for a c-section.



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At this point, it's faster to have a child than it is for the government to OK me to own an aluminum tube. Pretty. Freaking. Sad.
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Link Posted: 5/7/2017 1:23:20 AM EDT
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Thanks Stronghold Corp, was a pleasure dealing with you.
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No problem glad you like it.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 1:24:03 AM EDT
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Thanks Stronghold Corp, was a pleasure dealing with you.
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No problem glad you like it.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 9:13:11 PM EDT
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No problem glad you like it.
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Thanks Stronghold Corp, was a pleasure dealing with you.
http://i.imgur.com/zHbPLZw.jpg
No problem glad you like it.
John I still need to get together with you and pick something out. maybe you can help me threw the process. same when it comes time for my SBR
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 12:04:56 PM EDT
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Guess someone at the ATF really wanted some over time.

Capital Armory
Item: Suppressor - Griffin Armament Optimus
Method: Trust
Purchased: 05/05/16
Form 3 sent: 05/05/16 CCA
Form 3 approved:6/29/16
Form 4 mailed:07/09/16
Check cashed:07/14/16(Credit Card Charged)
Pending:07/15/16
Approved:5/29/2017 Memorial Day
Date it arrived in the mail:
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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:13:47 PM EDT
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Got an individual F4 back to the dealer today.  Mailed my packet on 9/24/16.

Looks like they are officially over the pre-July16 madness.

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