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Posted: 6/24/2014 2:35:23 PM EDT
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Anybody that wants to go to an awesome FREE shoot should come out to the Illinois Bullpup/Zombie shoot September 27 in Aurora, Illinois. There will be three gun shoots, shooting from owing vehicles, and a bad ass hot machine gun line. There will be M16's, AK's, RPD's, Thompsons, Steyr Augs, all full auto. Come on out, it will be awesome.
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Anybody that wants to go to an awesome FREE shoot should come out to the Illinois Bullpup/Zombie shoot September 27 in Aurora, Illinois. There will be three gun shoots, shooting from owing vehicles, and a bad ass hot machine gun line. There will be M16's, AK's, RPD's, Thompsons, Steyr Augs, all full auto. Come on out, it will be awesome. View Quote But its in Illinois... |
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Anybody that wants to go to an awesome FREE shoot should come out to the Illinois Bullpup/Zombie shoot September 27 in Aurora, Illinois. There will be three gun shoots, shooting from owing vehicles, and a bad ass hot machine gun line. There will be M16's, AK's, RPD's, Thompsons, Steyr Augs, all full auto. Come on out, it will be awesome. View Quote Would love to go, but that's a 12 hr round trip for me in my gas guzzling truck. If I did decide to go or car pool with others what are the firearm transportation laws in the state of satin? Can you start a new thread with details on the shoot? |
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Anybody that wants to go to an awesome FREE shoot should come out to the Illinois Bullpup/Zombie shoot September 27 in Aurora, Illinois. There will be three gun shoots, shooting from owing vehicles, and a bad ass hot machine gun line. There will be M16's, AK's, RPD's, Thompsons, Steyr Augs, all full auto. Come on out, it will be awesome. But its in Illinois... ^^^^^^^^^^What he said. |
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Anybody that wants to go to an awesome FREE shoot should come out to the Illinois Bullpup/Zombie shoot September 27 in Aurora, Illinois. There will be three gun shoots, shooting from owing vehicles, and a bad ass hot machine gun line. There will be M16's, AK's, RPD's, Thompsons, Steyr Augs, all full auto. Come on out, it will be awesome. View Quote I went to this three years ago and it was totally worth the drive. That one was at the old Blackwater North, can't remember what it's called these days. |
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well... we need to define what we want to do and the content. over the years we've had a machine gun shoot, ar15 build clinics, 3gun (lite), and others. what are people WANTING? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And here we go! Michael what say you? well... we need to define what we want to do and the content. over the years we've had a machine gun shoot, ar15 build clinics, 3gun (lite), and others. what are people WANTING? I'd love to do another 3 gun type event. |
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well... we need to define what we want to do and the content. over the years we've had a machine gun shoot, ar15 build clinics, 3gun (lite), and others. what are people WANTING? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And here we go! Michael what say you? well... we need to define what we want to do and the content. over the years we've had a machine gun shoot, ar15 build clinics, 3gun (lite), and others. what are people WANTING? I want to shoot machine guns!! Please! |
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Three gun match at Boone Sportsmans this Saturday. Got any more info on this? I can't find anything, not sure where to look. Saturday is the 3-gun match in Boone, here are some more details: Signup will be at 8:30 (or before if you get there). Walk thru will be at 9. We are making this more what you would expect for a "3-gun" match, so there will be using and transitioning rifle, shotgun and pistol, all in the same stage. On the North side of the range house, there will be 2 stages set up. One stage will require rifle and pistol, the other stage will require rifle, pistol and shotgun. On the South side, there will also be 2 stages, both stages will require the use of handgun and shotgun. The "estimated" total round count will be: rifle 35 handgun 72 shotgun 23 This is not IDPA, but for the most part, we will follow IDPA rules, with some obvious exceptions: Pistol and rifles will be limited to 10 rounds loaded in the magazines. Yes, all pistols can be loaded up to that. Shotguns will start with 4 in the mag with the chamber empty and open, safety on. The tactical rules of idpa will be followed, use of cover where available, retaining mags with ammo etc. Shotgun ammo will not be allowed any larger than 7.5 shot Cost of match will be a measly $15. If you can bring exact change, that will help (but not necessary). I have trouble with higher level math like $20-$15=??. Yes, I'm a Maxwell High graduate :) Most important thing to remember: SAFETY! It's "everyone's" business, not just the range officials. Keep an eye on the weather, it looks like rain every day through the weekend. We will not argue with lightening! Check this site for updates on the match, and if you have any questions, feel free to give me a call. This was the email from the yahoo IDPA group. I don't plan on going. The last three gun I went to gave me a heart attack. Literally. Boone runs a good match. I've shot there a number of times over the years. Jim runs a tight range, pay attention and you'll be fine. |
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And here we go! Michael what say you? well... we need to define what we want to do and the content. over the years we've had a machine gun shoot, ar15 build clinics, 3gun (lite), and others. what are people WANTING? I want to shoot machine guns!! So what if we did a 4 GUN event? shotgun, pistol, rifle, machine gun? |
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I'm in for whatever. Let me know how I can help out.
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Three gun match at Boone Sportsmans this Saturday. Got any more info on this? I can't find anything, not sure where to look. The tactical rules of idpa will be followed I was interested until that part. 4 gun sounds good. |
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf?
I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. |
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Hey guys. I don't know anything about formal planning but I have been doing some prop work. Thus far I have a bunch of steel targets for shot gun and I think we can have some really fast paced exciting shot gun courses next time we get together which can also be right in the mix hopefully upping the number of strange positions we can get into and lowering the amount of run from a to b type stuff. As much of a bad ass as catfish is I would hate for him to win all the time just because he is a stellar athlete and stuff. I have been super busy with having my son up for the summer and work of course but at the end of july he will be heading home to momma which will leave me with lots of steam to let off. So I will start showing off some ideas for multigun courses.
Some stuff that I wanna do. 1. Precision/long range get together with the big guy septic. He is always putting together fancy stuff that makes my giblets jiggle a little bit. Last go was a hell of a lot of fun but I would love to see a mixed bag event that had some steel spaced at hundred meter increments or so and then maybe a side challenge that could include some movement, out of position work and just basic hard ass cool kid shooting. -I worry with this because some guys didn't bother to get dope for a rifle from 7-100 meters so god knows what happened if we were on time and had some longer shots. This will be on the other fellas south but I will gladly drive down for one because I like hugs and stuff. 2. Multigun. that could mean 3 gun but it could mean steel challenge or something too. I love wiping up the field on the shot gun stages because Im awesome and don't need some damn comm block gun to prove it. Steel challenge shoots can be just stupid amounts of fun with some great move and shoot action. We would need much more participation for the range safety functions as there is no way Im gonna run all day long. 3. Get together fun shit. I don't like mixing the build day/machine gun/meet and greet/3 gun light. You get too little of everything and that just sucks. If we wanna get together and build/talk guns all day and bs while shooting some for fun I might make a trip down. If we try and do everything at once I probably wont. 4. Night vision all night long. As cool as mixing things is I would love to see a night shoot only get together. I was dead after 3 gun in the spring and sadly my demons decided to start barking and wouldn't let me have a good time at the night shoot when ryan brought all kinds of good stuff. Maybe I won't count the chicks before they hatch on this because I am thinking ryan will probably have some cool stuff ahead. If anyone is further up north and wants to get together in my neck of the woods I am game. I like hitting up the spring run complex and staking out a claim and just shooting a bunch. Doesn't have to be any set up work involved I will gladly come out and shoot with anyone in the northwest but none of you guys care about the northern one man alliance. |
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf? I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. View Quote The problem with three gun matches is they are a lot of work to organize. For most clubs it closes the entire range down for most of the day. The other problem (which many shooting sports suffer from) is you're on the range for five hours for five minutes of shooting. We try to run one a year at Ames. With 1,000 ,members we need to be careful how often we tie up the range. |
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Working most weekends really screws me over, tho I've decided to commit to more ARFcom events. I had a lot of fun at the 3 gun shoot and the build day / MG shoots in the past have always been fun as well. I'm in on anything that's decided!
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf? I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. View Quote IDPA got rule happy a few years ago and alienated a lot of shooters. Both Ames and Boone are IDPA-ish. |
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf? I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. IDPA got rule happy a few years ago and alienated a lot of shooters. Both Ames and Boone are IDPA-ish. Don't want to de-rail thread, but yes. It's ridiculous when most guys spend the match talking about following the rules in each stage, etc. Fine for IDPA, but in 3-gun? The whole point is it's a game, figure out how to shoot the course the best way... Why make everyone shoot it exactly the same? Anyways, might be fun to do a 2-gun w/ MG shoot. Just do carbine/pistol, hell, you could even require a sling and do some transitions? Didn't know if no shotgun would make setup easier. Then either do a seperate MG shoot or work a MG into a stage (Supressed FA SBR???? eh?) |
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Don't want to de-rail thread, but yes. It's ridiculous when most guys spend the match talking about following the rules in each stage, etc. Fine for IDPA, but in 3-gun? The whole point is it's a game, figure out how to shoot the course the best way... Why make everyone shoot it exactly the same? Anyways, might be fun to do a 2-gun w/ MG shoot. Just do carbine/pistol, hell, you could even require a sling and do some transitions? Didn't know if no shotgun would make setup easier. Then either do a seperate MG shoot or work a MG into a stage (Supressed FA SBR???? eh?) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf? I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. IDPA got rule happy a few years ago and alienated a lot of shooters. Both Ames and Boone are IDPA-ish. Don't want to de-rail thread, but yes. It's ridiculous when most guys spend the match talking about following the rules in each stage, etc. Fine for IDPA, but in 3-gun? The whole point is it's a game, figure out how to shoot the course the best way... Why make everyone shoot it exactly the same? Anyways, might be fun to do a 2-gun w/ MG shoot. Just do carbine/pistol, hell, you could even require a sling and do some transitions? Didn't know if no shotgun would make setup easier. Then either do a seperate MG shoot or work a MG into a stage (Supressed FA SBR???? eh?) I'm surprised something like a "2-gun" thing hasn't taken off. I'd like to see something where you must retain both the carbine and pistol at all times during the stage with transitions as well as forced reloads. There could be running or forced shooting on the move as well. Something like what we see in the advanced carbine classes, but with multiple stages and scored like idpa or something. In other words I don't practice tactical shotgun shooting...lol. I like playing with my 870, but I don't see any need to practice speed reloads or slug change overs with a shotgun. I do practice carbine/pistol drills regularly though. I would also be interested in a tactical precision rifle type match. Something like what I've heard about the urban sniper shoots although I've never been there myself. It wouldn't have to be real long range. Multiple targets at various ranges from 200 to 500 yards can be much more difficult with time limit induced stress as well as being forced to use multiple different shooting positions besides just prone. I need to do some competitions whether it be idpa or otherwise, but I just don't like the idea of spending several hours at a range to do a few minutes of shooting. |
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I need to do some competitions whether it be idpa or otherwise, but I just don't like the idea of spending several hours at a range to do a few minutes of shooting. Unfortunately this is a problem with almost all shooting sports. I've been on the range at Perry for 12 hours to shoot 50 rounds, sometimes only 30. The only way around that is having multiple shooters run at the same time, somewhat like trap or skeet does it. But that gets complicated due to safety and space considerations, especially with run and gun games. I don't know how your club operates but our board has always been of the opinion if you want to organize and run an activity, go for it. The key is getting the people to actually do the work. We have 1,000 members in our club and probably 25 of us do 99% of the work. Setting up a two gun match isn't rocket science. We've occasionally had a rifle stage in our IDPA matches just for fun. |
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I need to do some competitions whether it be idpa or otherwise, but I just don't like the idea of spending several hours at a range to do a few minutes of shooting. Unfortunately this is a problem with almost all shooting sports. I've been on the range at Perry for 12 hours to shoot 50 rounds, sometimes only 30. The only way around that is having multiple shooters run at the same time, somewhat like trap or skeet does it. But that gets complicated due to safety and space considerations, especially with run and gun games. I don't know how your club operates but our board has always been of the opinion if you want to organize and run an activity, go for it. The key is getting the people to actually do the work. We have 1,000 members in our club and probably 25 of us do 99% of the work. Setting up a two gun match isn't rocket science. We've occasionally had a rifle stage in our IDPA matches just for fun. View Quote I certainly don't blame the people setting up and running things for the wait time. I understand that's just the way it is running something like that with several shooters. Even though I wasn't at the last 3 gun I can appreciate the work the guys did to put on a good event. I just shoot either on public land or a private location and set up my own drills. I have idpa card board targets and stands. I set up simple drills like the vtac or magpul drills nothing elaborate as a competition stage. I have a timer and just work on personal bests. I've gotten more into the precision shooting lately and even though I only have a spr type 223 I'm all about it. I'm working on getting something much better so I can enjoy the long range stuff that much more. |
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I am the same way I shoot on pubby land now and it works for me.
Some issues that shooting in baxter has is the limitation of rifle range at 100 ish meters and angles that are able to be shot. There is almost no way we can shoot more than one person at a time there. I would really love to do a AR or 2 gun shoot as this is fucking ar15.com last time I checked. I would love to see rifles run hard as well as a bit of pistol action. If we were doing shooting out past 100 steel all day would be fine but I would have no issue working with lots of cardboard up close. I have target frame work that can be used to build quick access walls so if the brownells range would be an option we could definitely do it there possibly running more than a stage at a time. Remember that there are shooting clubs in Iowa. It is awesome to get ar15.com guys together to bs with but I wasn't too happy last time as our community spirit was really lacking. If you want to shoot organized 3 gun I guess there are plenty of people who are hosting those events. I think it is awesome that michael let us come out and put holes in his dirt and I hope to get down every time he has that type of deal going on. I will gladly put a bunch of work into one but we need to make sure it is known that we are not a paid club. You aren't paying dues and coming out for a good time everyone has to chip in and make things right. That might mean putting up targets, being a range safety, running water out to the range safeties and what seems to have been missed last time anteing up in the jar to donate to someone other than the people working asses off and putting personal steel and props out to be ravaged. If someone is gonna show up and not help in any way I would prefer they just didn't show up. Any of the people who set the last one up could have done it just for a smaller group and had just as much fun. |
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but I just don't like the idea of spending several hours at a range to do a few minutes of shooting. View Quote Catch-22 for you. Anything that requires movement and transitions, etc. needs a WIDE berth for safety, which usually means one shooter at a time.... it's going to take a while. Multiple targets at various ranges from 200 to 500 yards can be much more difficult with time limit induced stress as well as being forced to use multiple different shooting positions besides just prone. View Quote After seeing some of the shooting at 3-gun, a 500 yard off-position shoot is something you can practice at home... especially if you don't want to wait for hours |
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My main wants are;
Want to move with many firing positions. Want to shoot with rifle. Want targets to go "BRIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG" when I hit them so I know I hit them. Want to engage multiple targets at different ranges from same firing positions. Want to run same course a few times to try for improvement. Want a high round count. Want ham! Want to hang out and bullshit with people who like tactical shooting. |
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Just for an example of what type of 2 gun stuff I would be interested in...
Simple 2 gun drill that people here would have fun doing: Run the el president drill with rifle...after finishing the drill transition to handgun while maintaining possession of the rifle via sling...run the same el president drill with handgun...after completing drill with handgun top off and holster handgun...top off rifle while moving to next shooting location...At next shooting location using some type of obstacle for cover from kneeling position shoot 2 targets 2 times each from 50 yards...transition to weak side behind same obstacle and shoot 2 targets 2 times again...run to next position...shoot 2 idpa targets 5 times each from 7 yards A-zone hits just like el president penalties for shots outside A zone...then from this position drop prone and shoot one clay pigeon at 100 yards. |
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Just for an example of what type of 2 gun stuff I would be interested in... Simple 2 gun drill that people here would have fun doing: Run the el president drill with rifle...after finishing the drill transition to handgun while maintaining possession of the rifle via sling...run the same el president drill with handgun...after completing drill with handgun top off and holster handgun...top off rifle while moving to next shooting location...At next shooting location using some type of obstacle for cover from kneeling position shoot 2 targets 2 times each from 50 yards...transition to weak side behind same obstacle and shoot 2 targets 2 times again...run to next position...shoot 2 idpa targets 5 times each from 7 yards A-zone hits just like el president penalties for shots outside A zone...then from this position drop prone and shoot one clay pigeon at 100 yards. View Quote Understand that one of the biggest problems with doing this kind of stuff is you are having folks drop the rifle into a sling. Slings fail. If we get a bunch of people together and someone has a cheapo sling it can be a bad deal. Mix cheap slings or people rushing because they want to go fast and you get a dropped rifle or unsafe crap. I am a huge fan of this kind of stuff and I will do it on my own regularly but I don't particularly care to be in a group of people that I don't know doing it around me. |
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Understand that one of the biggest problems with doing this kind of stuff is you are having folks drop the rifle into a sling. Slings fail. If we get a bunch of people together and someone has a cheapo sling it can be a bad deal. Mix cheap slings or people rushing because they want to go fast and you get a dropped rifle or unsafe crap. I am a huge fan of this kind of stuff and I will do it on my own regularly but I don't particularly care to be in a group of people that I don't know doing it around me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just for an example of what type of 2 gun stuff I would be interested in... Simple 2 gun drill that people here would have fun doing: Run the el president drill with rifle...after finishing the drill transition to handgun while maintaining possession of the rifle via sling...run the same el president drill with handgun...after completing drill with handgun top off and holster handgun...top off rifle while moving to next shooting location...At next shooting location using some type of obstacle for cover from kneeling position shoot 2 targets 2 times each from 50 yards...transition to weak side behind same obstacle and shoot 2 targets 2 times again...run to next position...shoot 2 idpa targets 5 times each from 7 yards A-zone hits just like el president penalties for shots outside A zone...then from this position drop prone and shoot one clay pigeon at 100 yards. Understand that one of the biggest problems with doing this kind of stuff is you are having folks drop the rifle into a sling. Slings fail. If we get a bunch of people together and someone has a cheapo sling it can be a bad deal. Mix cheap slings or people rushing because they want to go fast and you get a dropped rifle or unsafe crap. I am a huge fan of this kind of stuff and I will do it on my own regularly but I don't particularly care to be in a group of people that I don't know doing it around me. A good safety brief and risk of being DQ'd for breaking safety rules would hopefully be enough for this group, but I understand your concern. It's always good to push your limits and I do when I'm on my own, but you have to shoot as fast as you can not as fast as you want to. I know there are a lot of good shooters here many better than me, but guys have to shoot to their ability and not try to go as fast as the ninjas. Never trade liberty for security and never trade safety for speed. |
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Understand that one of the biggest problems with doing this kind of stuff is you are having folks drop the rifle into a sling. Slings fail. If we get a bunch of people together and someone has a cheapo sling it can be a bad deal. Mix cheap slings or people rushing because they want to go fast and you get a dropped rifle or unsafe crap. I am a huge fan of this kind of stuff and I will do it on my own regularly but I don't particularly care to be in a group of people that I don't know doing it around me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just for an example of what type of 2 gun stuff I would be interested in... Simple 2 gun drill that people here would have fun doing: Run the el president drill with rifle...after finishing the drill transition to handgun while maintaining possession of the rifle via sling...run the same el president drill with handgun...after completing drill with handgun top off and holster handgun...top off rifle while moving to next shooting location...At next shooting location using some type of obstacle for cover from kneeling position shoot 2 targets 2 times each from 50 yards...transition to weak side behind same obstacle and shoot 2 targets 2 times again...run to next position...shoot 2 idpa targets 5 times each from 7 yards A-zone hits just like el president penalties for shots outside A zone...then from this position drop prone and shoot one clay pigeon at 100 yards. Understand that one of the biggest problems with doing this kind of stuff is you are having folks drop the rifle into a sling. Slings fail. If we get a bunch of people together and someone has a cheapo sling it can be a bad deal. Mix cheap slings or people rushing because they want to go fast and you get a dropped rifle or unsafe crap. I am a huge fan of this kind of stuff and I will do it on my own regularly but I don't particularly care to be in a group of people that I don't know doing it around me. i have several slings that are 'high quality" I could bring for people as well as several QD sockets if that is your thing. My VTAC surely would do the job. I was practicing the other day with a sling and drawing my sidearm it's a lot harder to do then it looks especially for safety reasons (sweeping people) so i can understand that also..... |
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The club in Eddyville runs the same way,makes no sense to run IDPA rules, including a concealment garmet... for 3 gun, wtf? I would like to see a more run and gun type 3-gun event, or a precision rifle shoot. View Quote Nah, I went to their last 3-gun match and it was very relaxed and fun. I ran my USPSA production belt setup (inner/outer belt, DOH) and it was fine. No concealment garments. The only thing I didn't really care for was the limited round count on most of the stages - they didn't force shotgun reloads except on one stage. But it was fun! No limits on guns, one guy was running an optic on all three guns. I shorted myself to 8+1 in the shotgun for sportsmanship's sake, but they would have let me run 10+1 and skip the reload on the one stage. For any of y'all looking to hit a 3-gun match, check out this Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3GunIowa/ |
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No kidding. Turned into the normal 3 gun debacle as always.....
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How about we come up with a date to start with, set up a single course to run pistol and rifle and go threw it twice, best time counts. Set up a sniper course firing from a single position with a dozen pieces of steel of various sizes from 100-200 yards. One shot per target hit or miss while timed. Each miss adds 5 seconds to your time. If we have time run it twice. If septics cool with it I'd come down the day before to help set up and camp out somewhere in his yard for the night.
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How about we come up with a date to start with, set up a single course to run pistol and rifle and go threw it twice, best time counts. Set up a sniper course firing from a single position with a dozen pieces of steel of various sizes from 100-200 yards. One shot per target hit or miss while timed. Each miss adds 5 seconds to your time. If we have time run it twice. If septics cool with it I'd come down the day before to help set up and camp out somewhere in his yard for the night. View Quote I like where your head is at. the urban sniper shoot is structured closely to what you described the sniper as...as far as I know. Out at septics though we are limited to about 80-120 meters. The field we shot long range last year was able to do 800ish but that requires the field to be harvested...we could set dates but that is fall time. I would be game for trying for brownells 500meter range and doing reduced size stuff there to work out some frustration as well as the 100 meter next door for rifle/pistol but my understanding is that they can be more strict with use of RSO and what can and cannot be done. |
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I like where your head is at. the urban sniper shoot is structured closely to what you described the sniper as...as far as I know. Out at septics though we are limited to about 80-120 meters. The field we shot long range last year was able to do 800ish but that requires the field to be harvested...we could set dates but that is fall time. I would be game for trying for brownells 500meter range and doing reduced size stuff there to work out some frustration as well as the 100 meter next door for rifle/pistol but my understanding is that they can be more strict with use of RSO and what can and cannot be done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about we come up with a date to start with, set up a single course to run pistol and rifle and go threw it twice, best time counts. Set up a sniper course firing from a single position with a dozen pieces of steel of various sizes from 100-200 yards. One shot per target hit or miss while timed. Each miss adds 5 seconds to your time. If we have time run it twice. If septics cool with it I'd come down the day before to help set up and camp out somewhere in his yard for the night. I like where your head is at. the urban sniper shoot is structured closely to what you described the sniper as...as far as I know. Out at septics though we are limited to about 80-120 meters. The field we shot long range last year was able to do 800ish but that requires the field to be harvested...we could set dates but that is fall time. I would be game for trying for brownells 500meter range and doing reduced size stuff there to work out some frustration as well as the 100 meter next door for rifle/pistol but my understanding is that they can be more strict with use of RSO and what can and cannot be done. I'm fine with only going out to 120, I'm sure we could put something together to make it complicated. Trying to shoot fast at moa targets at 100 yards is still a challenge just with out bullet drop compensation issues. I'd be all for another long range shoot in October as well. Would be fun to do an open shoot like before for a little bit to get a feel for the wind etc, and then turn it in to a timed competition out to maybe 500 yards so that people firing .556 can still reach out and get hits. |
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I'm up for meeting some guys at the brownells 500 yard range sometime even if it's just a fun shoot and bs session. While I can see setting up an urban sniper course at 100 yards could be made very difficult it doesn't seem near as interesting when there is no doping the scope or hold overs involved.
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I would be game for trying for brownells 500meter range and doing reduced size stuff there to work out some frustration as well as the 100 meter next door for rifle/pistol but my understanding is that they can be more strict with use of RSO and what can and cannot be done. View Quote I'm a Brownells/Big Springs RSO, and part of the problem is that most of the other RSO's are clay shooters. They don't have an appreciation for what is safe to do with rifles & pistols on steel targets because they haven't been around it, and they've probably never witnessed a practical shooting competition. That said, I don't think CCA has to deal with the normal RSO staff... but if you do I know at least two other Big Springs RSOs who are into AR's and pistols. |
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I didn't know just anybody could use that place. That would be cool.
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I'm a Brownells/Big Springs RSO, and part of the problem is that most of the other RSO's are clay shooters. They don't have an appreciation for what is safe to do with rifles & pistols on steel targets because they haven't been around it, and they've probably never witnessed a practical shooting competition. That said, I don't think CCA has to deal with the normal RSO staff... but if you do I know at least two other Big Springs RSOs who are into AR's and pistols. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would be game for trying for brownells 500meter range and doing reduced size stuff there to work out some frustration as well as the 100 meter next door for rifle/pistol but my understanding is that they can be more strict with use of RSO and what can and cannot be done. I'm a Brownells/Big Springs RSO, and part of the problem is that most of the other RSO's are clay shooters. They don't have an appreciation for what is safe to do with rifles & pistols on steel targets because they haven't been around it, and they've probably never witnessed a practical shooting competition. That said, I don't think CCA has to deal with the normal RSO staff... but if you do I know at least two other Big Springs RSOs who are into AR's and pistols. Good info. I like the range there. What did you have to do to become an rso? |
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Take the NRA RSO class with them and volunteer for 5 events per year. There are some perks, honestly it's too far of a drive for me (which means it's way too far for you) but I did it to help out IFC basically.
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I didn't know just anybody could use that place. That would be cool. View Quote We called them a couple weeks ago about it. The guy said Tuesday nights are $5 for the 500 yard range for public use. Also, like Spart mentioned he said if you take the class and rso 5 events you get some perks. I live close and have thought about doing that, but I've been very busy this last month. |
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I didn't know just anybody could use that place. That would be cool. We called them a couple weeks ago about it. The guy said Tuesday nights are $5 for the 500 yard range for public use. You wouldn't want to piggyback on the public Tuesday nights, you can do better with more planning... |
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I didn't know just anybody could use that place. That would be cool. We called them a couple weeks ago about it. The guy said Tuesday nights are $5 for the 500 yard range for public use. You wouldn't want to piggyback on the public Tuesday nights, you can do better with more planning... I agree I was just mentioning that in case anyone wanted to go on their own. Do you know how many people they usually have on the Tuesday nights? Do they allow setting up paper targets at different ranges like say both 300 and 500 for doing load development? |
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Actually I don't, I've RSO'd on Thursday nights (trap/skeet/5 stand) but if I'm that far north on a Tuesday, I'm at AIPS shooting USPSA instead.
Different ranges would be fine for paper targets. If you had a lot of guys I'm sure you'd be wanting to shoot steel, and most of the RSO's don't have a comfort level with shooting rifles at steel. Brownells does not allow you to shoot rifles on steel the range owns. From what I was told, if steel is being shot on the rifle ranges, the steel has to be at the back of the berm. Which on the 500yd line means moving the firing line from under the shelter further downrange if you want to shoot less than 500yd. That is what I was told when I asked the CRSO categorically about shooting steel on that range at varying distances. Personally, I think that's overcautious and on that range as long as your rifle steel is at least 175-200yd from the shelter, you're not putting folks checking paper targets on the adjacent 100yd range in any danger. And if they're all wearing eye pro constantly and not taking it off when their particular firing line is cold (which they shouldn't be doing anyway) you could put it as close as 50yd, your real limit being caliber and what the steel can handle. But the RSO on the adjacent 100yd range should probably be made aware so he/she can stay on top of the eye pro situation. But again, I've been around steel a lot and been hit with spall and a lot of the RSO's don't care much for the rifle/pistol stuff. Spall can bruise you and maybe even cut you but if you have good eye pro and your steel isn't ate up with pockmarks, it's all superficial. Most any USPSA competition would have the shotgunners cringing, but they get comfortable with skeet shooting on their range which has you constantly firing your gun close to the 180, so it's all relative. I still get weirded out being on the trap range when the adjacent skeet range is running and hearing shot whistle past not 20 feet in front of my face. If you all do an event in conjunction with CCA, I'm thinking you might be able to skip the normal RSO's if CCA reps are there. Food for thought. Talk to septic about it... |
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I miss the days when a bunch of freedom addicts got together at CCA with some food, some firearms and a bunch of ammo... bring some friends and family along to INTRODUCE TO THE SPORT, and there wasn't all this overhead of planning and presumption.... when it was "FUN"! I know there are a couple people that I would like to bring that haven’t been able to come in the past to be able to shoot the auto/suppressed stuff…
Hang out in the shop and talk and tinker... I know a lot of people had a blast being able to shoot, and then later talk (brag) about shooting full-auto and suppressed weapons of today and yesteryear.... Nothing like flying lead and rambling stories to fill an afternoon... not all this "course of fire" and "round count" to worry about.... Michael/CCA is busy, and I think if we make it an “enjoyable day for the Ware family as our hosts, instead of trying to dictate and over plan, run everybody through with nothing left but the mess, this would go a lot smoother and not feel like a hectic vacation that you are glad when it is over. Hell, we’re on “Page 2” and haven’t gotten anywhere. How about the “annual” “”IAHTF Picnic-Hang out- Have a good time-Bring what you got and some food to share and have a good time- Get Together””.....? Just my $ .02 |
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