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Posted: 3/30/2014 6:47:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2014 7:03:24 PM EDT
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UPDATE:
Copes Distributing has confirmed that the ATF has in fact shut off the import of 5.45×39 surplus ammo. From a post they made on AR15.com at 3pm today: Confirmed from the IMPORT BRANCH of the BATFE…Just got off the phone with them….Exact words No more Imports of 5.45×39 Ammo……. Don’t hate me as we are OUT OF STOCK ALREADY….. Just delivering the message… - See more at: http://www.thebangswitch.com/import-ban-on-7n6-5-45x39/#sthash.2CfHl7EL.dpuf Yup. Its for real. |
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Posted: 3/30/2014 7:07:38 PM EDT
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Its just the steel core ammo. Wolf still makes ammo as does Hornady.
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Posted: 3/30/2014 7:23:16 PM EDT
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Its just the steel core ammo. Wolf still makes ammo as does Hornady. Yeah but it was the cheap surplus I was looking to shoot. If I am going to half the buy "regular" priced ammo is will just shoot 5.56. |
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Posted: 3/30/2014 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Not all surplus is steel core.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 2:31:55 AM EDT
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Not all surplus is steel core. Name a country that made lead core 5.45x39 ammo that is(or was)available as surplus? |
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Posted: 3/31/2014 7:12:55 AM EDT
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Fortunately I ordered a few more crates last Tuesday. Probably the first and last time I have good timing with this kind of thing. Haters gonna hate.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 8:07:31 AM EDT
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Hence the fallacy of building a firearm based on cheap surplus ammo. The supply of surplus ammo has always been erratic. It can and frequently has dried up overnight for a whole host of reasons. As far as the current situation with 5.45, ATF has always had a burr under their saddle about steel core ammo. Not saying I agree with it or it even makes sense. But ATF going after steel core ammo isn't anything new.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 9:01:45 AM EDT
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I was building the rifle anyway, so it was not a purposely built 5.45. I can easily swap my DD bolt back in and order a 5.56 barrel and move on. I just have to decide if the difference, which equates to about $.07 per round is worth it. There are other factors also like the mag modification for the 5.45 round. I am sure my new bolt would sell on EE if I decide to go that way. It was just a bummer is all. It seems that in this day and age that the sport of shooting is just growing more difficult and becoming harder to enjoy.
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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:07:35 AM EDT
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I just do not assume 'any" ammo is going to be cheap and available at all times, and buy when and how I can if their are sales and deals. Any day we could have another school shooting, or theater shooting and it can all flip on its head again. If you have the money to buy it, then buy it is the way I look at it anymore unfortunately
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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:07:54 AM EDT
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Hence the fallacy of building a firearm based on cheap surplus ammo. ...unless you buy enough ammo to wear said firearm out. 
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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:45:53 AM EDT
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I have a little bit of ammo set aside and even if I had a LOT more than I currently have I'd never be able to wear out any of my firearms, even if I did that's why a person buys spare parts, parts kits or has multiples of the same gun...or should have.
I was set to order my first cases of 5.45 ammo this past weekend but I appear to have missed the boat and that ship has sailed...so I'll probably end up doing some horse trading with a certain "aquatic animal" that hangs around the forum and has shown an interest in my Bulgarian ((10)) mags and TGI 74 Truck Gun. No worries for me on the 5.45 as I'll just keep buying more of the 54R ammo (maybe someday I'll actually buy a M-N rifle), get back to buying X39 ammo (even though I still don't own a firearm that shoots that caliber), load up some more on 9mm and continue to buy .22lr ammo whenever I come across it. I missed the boat on all the cheap 7.62X25 surplus ammo but if I ever want to build and shoot the PPSh-41 someday I'll just swap out the barrel and shoot in in 9mm as it will still use the same mag and drum. |
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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:49:04 AM EDT
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I ever want to build and shoot the PPSh-41 someday I'll just swap out the barrel and shoot in in 9mm as it will still use the same mag and drum. That's my plan for the AR. If it's time for a re-barrel and the surplus gravy train has long gone, just go 5.56. I also missed the boat on 7.26x25.
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Posted: 4/3/2014 7:41:33 AM EDT
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We'll I picked up 2 1080 end cases for $200 per case today. So I guess I am moving forward wit my 5.45 build.
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Posted: 4/3/2014 8:01:30 AM EDT
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There's some hope that this can get resolved through the courts.
The last time it happened, the gun rights movement wasn't anywhere near as organized or well-funded. |
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Posted: 4/14/2014 6:11:11 AM EDT
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Might want to jump on this as well ammo
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Posted: 4/14/2014 6:56:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAt that price you should just buy Wolf or GT and call it a day......... |
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Posted: 4/14/2014 7:19:35 AM EDT
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At that price you should just buy Wolf or GT and call it a day......... Quote HistoryQuoted:
At that price you should just buy Wolf or GT and call it a day......... I agree with the exception that this might be the last of the steel core ever imported, so if you were a person that wanted to have some set aside it would be a good idea to grab it while you can. |
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Posted: 4/14/2014 7:54:15 AM EDT
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I agree with the exception that this might be the last of the steel core ever imported, so if you were a person that wanted to have some set aside it would be a good idea to grab it while you can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At that price you should just buy Wolf or GT and call it a day......... I agree with the exception that this might be the last of the steel core ever imported, so if you were a person that wanted to have some set aside it would be a good idea to grab it while you can. The time to do that was about $300 per crate earlier. This to me is like paying $50 per brick for .22. Ain't gonna happen........ |
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Posted: 4/14/2014 4:19:15 PM EDT
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From what I've seen in the past is that every time there is a run on ammo the prices double or triple and when the run is over the prices never drop to what they were before. When something is band from being imported (especially perishable stuff) the price will continue to climb until you can't find it anymore. At that price its still way cheaper than than what .556 is going for and I see it heavily stocked in every store.
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