IAHTF 3 gun competition.

Lets see who is the best in the forum. Shooters are welcome to come show their stuff and make their case for why they are the Home Town Forum Champion:




When: It will be 5/10/14
          Setup: Friday evening and Saturday morning Let me know if you want to help.
          Sign in Starts at 9 and Safety Brief will be at 9:40
          Range goes hot at 10:04 and will stay hot till some one is crowned champion.


Where: Controlled Choas Arms in Baxter Iowa
             8401 Highway S52 North
             Baxter, IA  50028


List of Participants (Capped at 30, if you would like to be added as a back up let us know or help as an RSO let us know)
1.   BobRoberts
2.   JoelAC
3.   Cavscouty
4.   RbHoover
5.   NickForney
6.   SpartSilverBack7382
7.   Mirage
8.   Romper
9.   Clive Alive
10. dragonfd3s
11. JoshC88
12. SamW
13 .LOW50S
14. CatfishHunter
15. Beef1911
16. hurtback
17 .Wobyschall
18. Accurate
19  Silverback762
20  bhouse1545
21. Joe L
22. Ak monkey
23. Aj50208
24. rlarge10
25. Nemolicious
26. Siements
27. BigTom85
28. JustinS
29. Bionic Sniper
30. mattc1886

Backups:


This event is Non profit, we are using 100% volunteered manpower and equipment. If you would be willing to donate  either let us know!!

Where to Volunteer to RSO: Link

Where to Volunteer Equipment: Link


See Two posts down for Sponsors and Prizes.

Rules: See 4 posts down.

Scoring and Equipment: See 6 posts down.

Feel free to ask any questions.

OK.

Sponsors for Prize Table:













We are currently putting together the prizes for each round, but I can tell you that 1-3 overall will receive the following:

Winner
1- Team membership - Bob Roberts
1a- A custom Lancer mag
2- Custom avatar for winner- Joel AC
3- $25 gift certificate to Sportsman's Warehouse, MRE, Troy sling & an ammo can -Catfish Hunter
4- Vortex Strike Fire Provided Vortex Optics  Link

2nd
1a- A custom Lancer mag - Bob Roberts
2. 333 round brick of 22lr -Catfish Hunter

3rd
1a- A custom Lancer mag - Bob Roberts
2.DSG Kydex AR15 mag holder -Catfish Hunter

We will also have prizes for the fastest stage times, these will be released when we release the stage description with round count (3/23/13 tentative date.)

Door Prizes
Vortex Optics Hats and stickers
Goodies provided by Qmaxx and the Black Diamond Oil

Fookin' A!
I might have to borrow a horse.
And your chaps.

Rules:

1. Range commands
1.1 At your car - Put on your gear but leave your gun in the bag or pouch. Take
your bag
or pouch to a marked Safety Area, clear your gun, holster it then keep
it holstered unless you’re under the direct supervision of an SO (Safety Officer)
and given the
range command to load and make ready or otherwise specifically instructed to
unholster the
gun by the SO. No ammunition is allowed to be handled in the Safety Area at any
time.
1.2 Wear eye and ear protection at all times while on the range.
1.3. You will get stage description and walk through before shooting starts.
1.4. R.S.O. Commands:
A. Do you understand the course of fire?
B. Make Ready
C. Is the shooter Ready?
D. Stand By............... BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
E. If you are finished, alert the RSO.
E1: RSO will instruct you to show clear for all weapons on the range.

1.5 All person have the authority to yell stop at anytime there is an unsafe
condition. If an unsafe range condition occurs (high winds blow walls down, etc) the
shooter will be allowed to reshoot the stage. Once the shooter has started the stage (IE
buzzer has gone off) all other range failures (IE target falls or was not reset, pasted,
etc) will be scored as 0 (Zero). It is up to the R.S.O. to check all targets and range
conditions prior to giving the make ready command.
2. Safety Rules: 2.1 Participants are subject to a match disqualification for violating
any rule or regulation in Sections 2, 3 or 4.
2.2 Our matches are run on a cold range
2.2.1 A cold Range means that participants firearms will remain
unloaded at the match site except under the direction of a match official.
2.3 Designated Safety Areas
2.3.1 Safety Areas are clearly marked
2.3.2 Unloaded firearms may be handled and or displayed only in
these areas
2.3.3 No ammunition shall be handled in any Safety Area
2.4 Rifles and Shotguns
2.4.1Rifles and Shotguns must be cased or carried with the muzzle
in a safe direction (Either up or down) If you take a long gun to a stage,
have the courtesy to be sure that it is not pointed at anyone when it is
uncased, failure to follow this simple rule will result in a match
disqualification.
2.4.2 Rifles and shotguns must be carried / transported with
chamber flags in place and detachable magazines removed.
2.5 Handguns (carry between stages)
2.5.1 Handguns must be holstered or cased while being transported
between stages. Magazines must remain out of the handgun until on the
stage and under the supervision of the R.S.O.
2.5.2 Handguns must be carried with the hammer/striker down
2.6 Negligent Discharge
2.6.1 Participant shall be disqualified from the match for any
negligent discharge
2.6.1a Negligent discharge is defined as the discharge of a
firearm in an unsafe manner or unintentionally in which the bullet strikesthe ground within 3 meters of the competitor or R.S.O., or outside the
confines of the berm/backstop.
2.7 Participant shall be disqualified from the match for dropping a
firearm after the start signal has sounded for the stage.
2.8 A participant shall receive a Stage disqualification for the First
offense of allowing the muzzle of his or her firearm to break the 180
degree safety plane. A second offense will result in a Match DQ.
2.9 No participant or spectator shall consume or be under the
influence of alcohol, non prescription drugs or otherwise impaired and
deemed to be unsafe at the match site shall be asked to remove
themselves from the area.
2.10 Eye is mandatory for all participant and spectators while at the
match site
2.11 Ear protection is mandatory for participants, spectators and range
personnel while on or near the bays.
3.0 Sportsmanship
3.1 Participants and spectators are expected to conduct themselves in
a courteous, sportsman-like manner at all times.
3.2 Clothing shall be appropriate for generally accepted public wear.
3.3 If you are not shooting, the on deck shooter or helping run the
stage IE timing or scoring, you will be expected to help paste and reset
targets. Failure to do so may result in an unsportsmanlike conduct
penalty of 30 seconds per stage at the discretion of the stage SO but may
not be applied punitively.
4. Abandoning Firearms
While we are not deviating from these important safety rules, "abandoning" firearms
is most likely a new concept to shooters in other disciplines and it is an important call
out for shooters to understand how to safely handle more than one firearm in a
stage. If you have any questions about abandoning / grounding a firearm during the
course of fire, ask the R.S.O. prior to starting the stage. The options, simplified:
— 1: loaded and on safe or empty and in a retention device = free to move
downrange.
— 2: loaded and on safe or empty but NOT positively retained = lateral movement
only.
— 3: UNLOADED = free to move downrange.
5.0 Divisions
Tac Optics Mod: Only one optic is allowed, it can be used on any
firearm., , handgun, holster must be of a practical style. No race holsters, handgun
magazines may not extend more than 1” from grip, no shotgun speed loaders. Rifle
magazines shall not exceed 30 rounds. Shotguns may not start a stage with more
than 9 rounds loaded.
6.0 Ammunition
6.1 No Tracer, incendiary armor piercing or steel jacketed ammunition is not
allowed.
6.2 Pistol/revolver ammunition shall be 9 x 19 or larger
6.3 Rifle shall be .223 or larger except as noted.
6.4 Shogun must be 20 gauge or larger #7-1/2 or smaller lead shot or lead slugs.
6.5 No Firearm may be used in full automatic mode
7.0 Holsters and Equipment
7.1 Holsters shall safely retain the handgun during vigorous movement and for all
divisions except open be practical/tactical carry style and must completely cover the
trigger on semiautomatic pistols and the trigger and cylinder on revolvers
7.2 Shoulder, Crossdraw, SOB (Small of Back), IWB (In Waistband) or holsters of
a soft malleable design/construction are not allowed for safety reasons.
7.3 All equipment decisions will be made by match director and will be final.

I'm cool with that.

So, what are you thinking with the original post or is it the rum talking?

What you will need:


1 centerfire rifle with 1 x reload (no steel core ammo)                                               Total rounds for the day: 150 (180 max is what you can carry on)
1 centerfire pistol with 1-2 reloads                                                                               Total rounds for the day: 150
Shotgun  it will be 10-20 shots with the need to switch to slug (approx 5 shots)     Total rounds for the day: 100 Shot shells and 10 slugs

Please note the round counts are high and not a reflection of the number and type of targets you will be shooting, but what the average shooter will need with a large safety margin.



Scoring:

Scoring will be Time to run course plus any penalties.

Tentative penalties/rewards.
Failure to engage/ miss: +10 sec
Hit the hostage: +30 sec
Hit the hostage taker: -20 sec
Fail to safe weapon when abandoned: + 30 sec

So you will get your time and any penalties for a raw score. The individual runs will be added to the individuals other runs and lowest overall time wins.

This is why you don't let BobRob have your cell number... He won't invite you to get drunk, but he has no problem texting you drunk...

Mr. Tank does have a bunch of nice new steel targets and a range... But I think he said he's going to be pretty busy for the rest of the year.

We will want at least a 2-3 week notice for the day of the shoot. So that will put us into some cold weather.  Now I have a pair, so that won't bother me, but how will everyone else feel?

BobRob got me all confused with his drunk talk... This thread will be for discussing future plans for a 3gun match in the Spring. Accordingly him and Jackie Boy don't shoot in the cold

Jack has a new house that may or may not be in a DM neighborhood where the sounds of gunfire won't attract attention, we could have it at his place.

Some of us have standards... Going to Jack's house is not an option

Well... look at Mr. I Only Wear Silk Panties pitching his 'tude.
But you do make a good point.

thomas,

i can help with the list if you'd like.  we ended up with seven different hanging stands with multiple targets of varying size from a few inches to 20" and we also have four full size ipsc steels as well.  we've got a hostage target as well.  we ended up tiling the range area and all around it this summer, so the water doesn't settle now...  you're certainly welcome to use all that stuff.  also, we bulldozed a relatively level path between the range and the north of the pond, so you could stretch out targets and paths all around that area now.

as long as we don't have a date conflict with something my wife has scheduled for me, you're welcome to all that stuff and our property for the shoot.

say when...

And the big guy comes through again

BobRob was worried about "Inviting ourselves", I told him it would be fine.  We're looking at early/mid spring, so maybe try and pair this up with another HTF get together?  Shooting all steel will make it go much quicker, so we should be able to let people do multiple runs...hopefully.

I'm liking this idea...  

Tagging for further details.

That sounds like fun, there is good chance I'll be scared away by the comments by page 4 of this thread though.

you guys worry too much...  arfcommers have continually been kind to me and i intend to be kind in return...

i'm glad to offer up a place to do this.  we've got the targets.  we've got the space.  so why not?

get some details hammered out and we'll make it work.  

also, i agree.  the bottleneck of 'resetting' things will be greatly reduced when using a lot of steel.  i'm picking up plate racks, hostage targets, etc. from kurtis at accurate, so they'll be there to use as well depending on the date we settle on.  you're welcome to use as many or as few as you need.

-michael

Don't be scared! The only truly scary person here is Joel - just avoid him and you'll be fine.

Count me in(schedule permitting)! I'm always looking for a good time!

if you guys want, i'll make some guns available for folks.

i can provide an AR15 carbine, a 9mm Glock, and a 12ga shotgun.  you bring the ammo to run through them.  no corrosive stuff or crap of course...

i suppose i can offer up a holster and belt for the 9mm also, along with a sling for the AR15.

if there are some folks that don't have the equipment maybe this'll help them come out and enjoy the day too.  heck, maybe that AR15 should be an SBR with a titanium can...  maybe,,,  

As the official (1st round) winner of the last 3 gun shoot , I may have a few prizes to offer to the next winner - in pay it forward fashion.

Now if the winner is Joel, I may have to get creative....what am I saying, we all know it won't be Joel .  

I can bring my steel target and four other target  stands like last time.


Joe

Everyone's a Damn comedian now







We're going to meet up for beers at some point and start getting some planning done, I'll make sure to keep you filled in.

Give me a months notice for the date, and I can get off work.

Well after reading the text stream I sent Joel on Sat. I learned these things:

1) I was super drunk my spelling was attrocious.

2) Even when I'm drunk, I have awesome ideas.

3) Joel makes poor choices with women, Rose, really Joel.

Back to the issue at hand. I was thinking early spring, given that Jan. Is right around the corner .  Figure that we will try to set a couple runs and keep it small enough that everyone can get through a couple times.




Oh yeah, I will spend the winter constructing a trophey to put the Stanley cup to shame. Or maybe it should be championship belt...

I vote no segas.  That or force a slug or buck change out in mid string.  

lets do this at night.

Carnac the Magnificent checks in.

Aww, but I just ordered a drum mag and a slidefire.

I good with this.

Your shotgun is included in the No Saiga rule... We all know that it's a saiga, just accept it



I'm clearly going to win. I've been practicing my shotgun reloads and figured out how to reduce the zoom on my scope

There is no reason anyone cant use the shotguns they have, whats the fun in that. We will just build the stage to try and equalize the guns.

yes, no reason to exclude a certain type of shotgun. Next thing you know it will be only 8 rounds per handgun and 10 rounds per rifle.

Besides I need my 20 round drum in my Saiga because I shoot shotguns like a drunken monkey on crack.




In case you were wondering how a drunken monkey on crack shoots, the answer is terrible.

party pooper





I thought the sarcasm was clear in our posts... just messing with Catfish... he's a jerk and deserves it



Don't give me ideas  I do think the CoF needs to be set up to work a reload into the mix.


So like BobRob?

Throw a cardboard target into the mix to force a slug changeover maybe?

I figured we would throw a target out at 50 meters or so and make people shoot it.

This is relevant to my interests.  Let's rough it early January, and like forney said, let's do it at night.

Janurary is pretty damn cold just saying.

The enemy doesn't care.

You're not going to make it out to it anyways

Hey, I've been busy.  Let's grab some drinks on Friday.  BobBob should show too.

Ditto, at night... with proper light discipline!

And if Saiga's are allowed I want to dual wield double barrel coach guns

He has to like vacuum and mow the yard and what not.

He's all domesticated and shit now, he bought a house

If you're going to show up to the shoot, patches will be required for your payment

5:00PM at the Clipper? It's your turn to buy

I'll bring patches and stickers for sure.

night shoot huh?

sounds good.  we can do it....  say when.

I've got axuillary lighting on the Jeep if need be... If you all need a hand with anything let me know!

I could fumble around in the dark with my Gen 1 monocular

I also have an 8" steel gong we can use.

I got a sticker in the mail today.  In your faces.

Im definitely ready for the night shoot to come around.  I was kidding about 3 gun at night though.

I was also kidding about butt hurt over sega.  catfish knows we are just messing with him.  Im not sure if he knows ak style shot guns are dumb yet though.

Is it 2014 yet so we can get this thing going???  Sounds like fun


In the mean time, I will have to go out and kill some deer with my awesome Vepr 12 shotgun which the deer just look at and die from sheer terror less they want to be subjected the business end of 13 slugs of Russian rage.

Can I suggest that we make this shoot in Jeff's memory?

For those who don't check GD, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1549944_I_m_Dying.html

It would be nice to have an entry fee, so we can build Travis a rifle on the funds gathered. There have been a lot of members in that thread making personal guns dedicated to Jeff, but I think his son deserves his own.