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I'll write up something about Rep. Ryan's 2th Amendment history shortly, it is excellent. Here is a link to the Iowa Republican article about the announcement;

http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/romney-selects-paul-ryan/
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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:07:12 AM
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I'll write up something about Rep. Ryan's 2th Amendment history shortly, it is excellent. Here is a link to the Iowa Republican article about the announcement;

http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/romney-selects-paul-ryan/


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Good choice. It's time to turn this Great country around and back to better times. Flush the Zero
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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:14:47 AM
I like the choice.
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Sounds like a winner to me. Although I would like to see a 50 something clone of the late great Ronald Reagan running on the R side. But since we can't always get what we want.

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Posted: 8/12/2012 7:42:35 AM
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 8:54:40 AM
FROM NEWSMAX:

VP Choice Passes Nugent’s Second Amendment Litmus Test

Saturday, 11 Aug 2012 07:55 PM

By Paul Scicchitano

Conservative rocker Ted Nugent says in an exclusive interview with Newsmax that you can tell a lot about the kind of vice president Paul Ryan would make by the fact that he lists bowhunting as one of life’s great passions.

“He’s an addicted bowhunter. He loves the mystical flight of the arrow,” explained Nugent, who was taking a break from his concert tour on Saturday at a lakeside log cabin in Michigan. “I defy you to come up with a person that has a more spiritual relationship with the pulse that drives Paul Ryan’s life than me.”

Unlike other forms of hunting, Nugent, a fellow bowhunter, said the sport imposes the “ultimate challenge and discipline” on hunters if they want to be successful.

“Killing a deer with a bow and arrow is borderline impossible because the animals are so wary and the bow and arrow is such a short-range weapon,” said Nugent, who is also on the board of the National Rifle Association, in an exclusive interview.

“This kind of discipline is just what America needs in leadership and I know it appears to be a huge leap from what some consider recreational activities,” he said. “Paul and I could go to the grocery store if we wanted to, but we have chosen this original primal pursuit of game with a self-limiting weapon. And that says volumes for what drives this man to do the right thing in spite of political correctness.”

In a wide-ranging interview with Newsmax.TV earlier this week, Nugent predicted that the Romney campaign was ready to go into high gear and start attacking President Barack Obama. He described the campaign as “pumping gas” and “preparing to ignite some increased heat,” the start of which could be Saturday’s announcement of Romney’s running mate ahead of the Republican National Convention at the end of the month.

“This is what I mentioned to you, how everyone’s waiting for him to turn up the heat,” said the best-selling author and platinum recording artist. “I think Paul Ryan — he just turned up the heat.”

Nugent also has a relationship with Ryan’s home town of Janesville, Wis., which has been the birthsite of rare white buffalos, considered a significant spiritual event by some American Indian tribes. Nugent recorded a song called “Great White Buffalo,” which is also the name of his concert tour.

“My song, ‘Fred Bear’ has been the number one requested song in Wisconsin for 26 years in a row,” he said. “I hold the attendance record at pretty much every county fair and the state fair of Wisconsin.”

Another clue that Ryan is a dedicated public servant may lie in the timing of the presidential election. It coincides with Wisconsin’s best bowhunting season.

“Paul Ryan just gave up the only 2012 rut that he will ever have access to, to do the right thing for America,” Nugent added. “And though that may be dismissed and pooh-poohed by the non bowhunters amongst us, believe me as his blood brother, I know that he has given up his entire 2012 hunting season.”

Read more on Newsmax.com: VP Choice Passes Nugent’s Second Amendment Litmus Test
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Posted: 8/12/2012 8:57:45 AM
Originally Posted By dragonfd3s:
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.


lol...crap and politician have become synonymous these days. With the amount of money required to run a successful campaign and banks like Goldman Sachs being in the top 5 contributors for BOTH sides do really think anything is going to change? With the exception of a few obvious liberals like major universities, microsoft, and google the list of campaign contributors includes mostly big banks that contribute to BOTH sides. I'm not a total conspiracy nut buying into the 911 inside job crap or the chemtrails type of stuff, but I do believe nothing is going to change as long as we have that creature from Jekyll Island.

I like the choice simply because he has shown he is a little bit more conservative when it comes to budget issues than the rest of the rino's and because of the way he stood up to Obama during the debates on health care. He will totally destroy Biden in a debate. So once again for me it is the lesser of two evils that will get my vote. I've basically given up on elections and only continue to vote to exercise one of my most important fundamental rights as an American citizen.

I did like his speech where he said...we are the land of equal opportunity not equal results. I'm not a business owner, but I also know there is nothing really stopping me from having the opportunity to start a business if I chose to undertake such a challenge.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 9:14:43 AM
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Originally Posted By dragonfd3s:
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.


How is Ron Paul's record compared to Ryan's?

http://conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2011/house.html#WI

Looks like Ron Paul's ten points less conservative...
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Posted: 8/12/2012 9:45:56 AM
Originally Posted By F224:
Originally Posted By dragonfd3s:
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.


How is Ron Paul's record compared to Ryan's?

http://conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2011/house.html#WI

Looks like Ron Paul's ten points less conservative...


Why bring Ron Paul into this? He wasn't one of the options for Romney's running mate as far as the reports I have seen so why even compare Ron Paul to Paul Ryan? So when it comes to candidates we are relegated to saying...well he is better than this guy? I wish we could have a candidate that we could say...this guy is a great candidate...not...well hey he is better than this guy. Romney and Ryan will get my vote, but I'm not pumped up about it.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 10:36:43 PM
Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:
Originally Posted By F224:
Originally Posted By dragonfd3s:
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.


How is Ron Paul's record compared to Ryan's?

http://conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2011/house.html#WI

Looks like Ron Paul's ten points less conservative...


Why bring Ron Paul into this? He wasn't one of the options for Romney's running mate as far as the reports I have seen so why even compare Ron Paul to Paul Ryan? So when it comes to candidates we are relegated to saying...well he is better than this guy? I wish we could have a candidate that we could say...this guy is a great candidate...not...well hey he is better than this guy. Romney and Ryan will get my vote, but I'm not pumped up about it.


Sorry, you missed the joke. Regarding the war situation, it's impossible to coexist with people who want you dead, we did not pick this fight, but we need to win it.

Thanks for your support of Gov. Romney. Comparing the current situation to the one Jimmy Carter left in 1980, we are far worse off. If Gov. Romney is half as successful fixing this mess as President Regan was, he will go down as one of the ten best Presidents in history, and clearly one of the top two of our lifetime.

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Posted: 8/13/2012 4:56:10 AM
Originally Posted By F224:
Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:
Originally Posted By F224:
Originally Posted By dragonfd3s:
His voting record tells me he's a crap politician who will only further bringing our country to it's knees. The next 4 years of depression and wars under Romney or Obama will result in more hardship and death across this Planet.


How is Ron Paul's record compared to Ryan's?

http://conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2011/house.html#WI

Looks like Ron Paul's ten points less conservative...


Why bring Ron Paul into this? He wasn't one of the options for Romney's running mate as far as the reports I have seen so why even compare Ron Paul to Paul Ryan? So when it comes to candidates we are relegated to saying...well he is better than this guy? I wish we could have a candidate that we could say...this guy is a great candidate...not...well hey he is better than this guy. Romney and Ryan will get my vote, but I'm not pumped up about it.


Sorry, you missed the joke. Regarding the war situation, it's impossible to coexist with people who want you dead, we did not pick this fight, but we need to win it.

Thanks for your support of Gov. Romney. Comparing the current situation to the one Jimmy Carter left in 1980, we are far worse off. If Gov. Romney is half as successful fixing this mess as President Regan was, he will go down as one of the ten best Presidents in history, and clearly one of the top two of our lifetime.



I remember Reagan well, but I don't remember the left being as vocal or as aggressive at trying to reach their goals as they are now. Maybe they were, but I was only 6 in 1980. I remember his second term much better. The problem I see is that road block in the senate if the Dems keep control. The economy is still in terrible shape regardless of what the media says and the Dems in the Senate will not allow Romney to do anything. Basically, I see no reason or need for any new laws or regulations. What we need is to start taking laws and regulations off the books and get government out of the way. I honestly don't see either party giving up any of their control or power. I do like Rand Paul's ideas about taking power away from government agencies. These unelected government workers should not be making regulations. They should only be researching and bringing their case for new regulations to the elected officials to let them vote on the possibility of new regulations. If the new regulations are voted on and approved by the elected officials then the proper agencies can be asigned with enforcing them.

I would like to see an end to agencies of unelected government workers creating new regulations and an end to executive orders except for temporary actions in a state of emergency.

I believe in Reagan's philosophy about appeasement, but I also don't agree in policing the world either.
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Picking Ryan pretty much killed my choice for this year,no way in hell I can back a ticket that has this D-Bag on it,pro 2A or not.
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Originally Posted By Jtrout141:
Picking Ryan pretty much killed my choice for this year,no way in hell I can back a ticket that has this D-Bag on it,pro 2A or not.
F*ck that guy.


Let's just say that the announcement of Ryan as VP pick resulted in my feelings for the Romney campaign not changing at all. The VP is a figurehead unless something tragic happens, and that's pretty rare. A VP pick will never increase the likelihood of me voting for a given candidate, it could only decrease it.
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Picking Ryan pretty much killed my choice for this year,no way in hell I can back a ticket that has this D-Bag on it,pro 2A or not.
F*ck that guy.


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Just because he voted for TARP,bailouts,the Patriot Act,the NDAA,and Bushs Prescription drug plan increasing Medicare costs doesn't mean he's not a Conservative.

And his "Plan for Prosperity" economic plan?Pretty much fantasy.

And Romney is a piece of crap anyway-if he had a D next to his name,most would be condemning him for his anti gun/pro gov healthcare stances when he was governor.

Best we can hope for is a stalemate-let Obama get back in,and let the R's have at least the House.Romney gets in and keeps the house,the R's will not fight anything.Better for us if they bicker and don't accomplish anything.

No way in hell I vote for Romney.


Here's a neat vid of Governor/Candidate Romney-http://youtu.be/bj8Nk3p1wyY

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I cant stand Romney and dont give two shits about who he picked for vp but would vote for Satan himself over Obama.

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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Just because he voted for TARP,bailouts,the Patriot Act,the NDAA,and Bushs Prescription drug plan increasing Medicare costs doesn't mean he's not a Conservative.

And his "Plan for Prosperity" economic plan?Pretty much fantasy.

And Romney is a piece of crap anyway-if he had a D next to his name,most would be condemning him for his anti gun/pro gov healthcare stances when he was governor.

Best we can hope for is a stalemate-let Obama get back in,and let the R's have at least the House.Romney gets in and keeps the house,the R's will not fight anything.Better for us if they bicker and don't accomplish anything.

No way in hell I vote for Romney.


Here's a neat vid of Governor/Candidate Romney-http://youtu.be/bj8Nk3p1wyY



Foolish post is foolish,if you cannot see why Obama must go and you think a Republican House can prevent Obama from fucking things up worse than Romney you are wrong. So many reasons....Court Appointees and Executive Orders.....on and on. This kind of thinking will get Obama re elected,good job.
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Just because he voted for TARP,bailouts,the Patriot Act,the NDAA,and Bushs Prescription drug plan increasing Medicare costs doesn't mean he's not a Conservative.

And his "Plan for Prosperity" economic plan?Pretty much fantasy.

And Romney is a piece of crap anyway-if he had a D next to his name,most would be condemning him for his anti gun/pro gov healthcare stances when he was governor.

Best we can hope for is a stalemate-let Obama get back in,and let the R's have at least the House.Romney gets in and keeps the house,the R's will not fight anything.Better for us if they bicker and don't accomplish anything.

No way in hell I vote for Romney.


Here's a neat vid of Governor/Candidate Romney-http://youtu.be/bj8Nk3p1wyY



Foolish post is foolish,if you cannot see why Obama must go and you think a Republican House can prevent Obama from fucking things up worse than Romney you are wrong. So many reasons....Court Appointees and Executive Orders.....on and on. This kind of thinking will get Obama re elected,good job.





There is no guarantee Romney wont compromise on Court appointees anyway or simply appoint less than conservative justices anyway.Look at his record-swings more ways than a weather vane,and was more than happy to sign an AWB when he was governor,and smack talk "assault weapons" and other weapons of "great lethality".

And look up some of his talk about healthcare when he was governor-for mandates and universal/gov healthcare.

Now that he's running and needs the vote,he is suddenly conservative,pro gun,and anti gov healthcare-if he still had a D next to his name and was running against an R,you guys would be trashing him for those very same issues.

The guy is in the pocket of the big banks and Wall St just like Obama-the names change,but the screwing continues.


This country is screwed either way-all those years of voting for the lesser evil has gotten us to where we are today.I stopped voting for the lesser evil quite a few years ago-until a majority wake up to the fact that both sides are screwing us over and taking us to the same destination (at different speeds) downhill we go.
I'm sure if Romney gets elected and does lots of "compromising",there will be plenty of people making excuses for him.
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Posted: 8/13/2012 6:44:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Jtrout141:
Picking Ryan pretty much killed my choice for this year,no way in hell I can back a ticket that has this D-Bag on it,pro 2A or not.
F*ck that guy.


Have you been drinking or did you hit your head again?



Ya'll want to know why he pisses me off? Google his name and the phrase raiding the railroad.
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Posted: 8/13/2012 7:04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By sd0324:
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Just because he voted for TARP,bailouts,the Patriot Act,the NDAA,and Bushs Prescription drug plan increasing Medicare costs doesn't mean he's not a Conservative.

And his "Plan for Prosperity" economic plan?Pretty much fantasy.

And Romney is a piece of crap anyway-if he had a D next to his name,most would be condemning him for his anti gun/pro gov healthcare stances when he was governor.

Best we can hope for is a stalemate-let Obama get back in,and let the R's have at least the House.Romney gets in and keeps the house,the R's will not fight anything.Better for us if they bicker and don't accomplish anything.

No way in hell I vote for Romney.


Here's a neat vid of Governor/Candidate Romney-http://youtu.be/bj8Nk3p1wyY



Foolish post is foolish,if you cannot see why Obama must go and you think a Republican House can prevent Obama from fucking things up worse than Romney you are wrong. So many reasons....Court Appointees and Executive Orders.....on and on. This kind of thinking will get Obama re elected,good job.





There is no guarantee Romney wont compromise on Court appointees anyway or simply appoint less than conservative justices anyway.Look at his record-swings more ways than a weather vane,and was more than happy to sign an AWB when he was governor,and smack talk "assault weapons" and other weapons of "great lethality".

And look up some of his talk about healthcare when he was governor-for mandates and universal/gov healthcare.

Now that he's running and needs the vote,he is suddenly conservative,pro gun,and anti gov healthcare-if he still had a D next to his name and was running against an R,you guys would be trashing him for those very same issues.

The guy is in the pocket of the big banks and Wall St just like Obama-the names change,but the screwing continues.


This country is screwed either way-all those years of voting for the lesser evil has gotten us to where we are today.I stopped voting for the lesser evil quite a few years ago-until a majority wake up to the fact that both sides are screwing us over and taking us to the same destination (at different speeds) downhill we go.
I'm sure if Romney gets elected and does lots of "compromising",there will be plenty of people making excuses for him.


If the Dems control the senate then Romney will have no choice but to compromise. This is the problem with Obama getting re-elected and having control of the senate. He will be able to pick the most leftist activist judge he can find and the senate will rubber stamp his selection. I remember Bush having a heck of a time getting the senate to confirm one of his nominees for the court.

I agree with your thoughts on the lesser of two evils and both parties are screwing us, but I will vote for Romney due to the possible supreme court nominations and I believe he will be better for the economy. I have made up my mind that if Romney gets in and we get more of the same old same old I will give up on the republican party.

The things I want out of the republican party over the next four years to keep my vote and keep me registered as a republican are:

Repeal obama care
true conservative supreme court nominations
some improvement in the economy
no new gun laws of any kind
limitations on government aid(foodstamps, welfare, housing assistance, etc) Make it harder to get and time limits so it truly is an aid to those in need and not a way of life.

Those are the minimum requirements for them to keep my vote, but there are several things I would like to see in addition to those.

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The things I want out of the republican party over the next four years to keep my vote and keep me registered as a republican are:

Repeal obama care
true conservative supreme court nominations
some improvement in the economy
no new gun laws of any kind
limitations on government aid(foodstamps, welfare, housing assistance, etc) Make it harder to get and time limits so it truly is an aid to those in need and not a way of life.

Those are the minimum requirements for them to keep my vote, but there are several things I would like to see in addition to those.



... and if none of those things come to fruition, where do they lose your vote to, the Dems? It isn't like they are going to do anything different.

Riding the lesser of two evils has left us with two choices... both of them being the same thing.


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The things I want out of the republican party over the next four years to keep my vote and keep me registered as a republican are:

Repeal obama care
true conservative supreme court nominations
some improvement in the economy
no new gun laws of any kind
limitations on government aid(foodstamps, welfare, housing assistance, etc) Make it harder to get and time limits so it truly is an aid to those in need and not a way of life.

Those are the minimum requirements for them to keep my vote, but there are several things I would like to see in addition to those.



... and if none of those things come to fruition, where do they lose your vote to, the Dems? It isn't like they are going to do anything different.

Riding the lesser of two evils has left us with two choices... both of them being the same thing.





And that's what the R party counts on-they will still get the support no matter how they fuck up.

I learned the ruse a long time ago and the R party left me a long time ago.I got a kick out of them asking what we want out of the R party-same shit Lefty posted.And what do we get?Bigger government,more laws/rules/regulations,etc..

They blow smoke up our ass and we trip over ourselves to cast a vote for the R since they aren't the D's,even though they are taking us to the same place.

Every year things get a little worse-extra law here,regulation there,tax here,license requirement there-and when the limited gov R's get in power?Nothing gets changed.Ooh,if only we had a bigger majority.Always with the ecuses and the party faithful swallow it up.

Same friggin thing on the D side.

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The things I want out of the republican party over the next four years to keep my vote and keep me registered as a republican are:

Repeal obama care
true conservative supreme court nominations
some improvement in the economy
no new gun laws of any kind
limitations on government aid(foodstamps, welfare, housing assistance, etc) Make it harder to get and time limits so it truly is an aid to those in need and not a way of life.

Those are the minimum requirements for them to keep my vote, but there are several things I would like to see in addition to those.



... and if none of those things come to fruition, where do they lose your vote to, the Dems? It isn't like they are going to do anything different.

Riding the lesser of two evils has left us with two choices... both of them being the same thing.




No I will not be switching to the Dems if the Republicans win and just give us more of the same. It will have to be third party for me. Basically I don't want to hand this to Obama and I'm giving the Republicans one more chance.
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Carguym,
I agree with you 100%, but also refuse to sit out of the system since the only way it can be changed at this point in history is from within.

I remain affiliated with a party because it is a means to influence party platforms and actively speak. Independents, by the nature of their position, lack this ability and further alienate themselves from the process. While currently registered R, my votes are not tied to a party. In fact, the last political contribution I made was to an individual running on the D side.

While I bitch about the lack of choice, I still communicate and caucus, even on the non-presidential cycles.
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Just saw the video from today at the fair..........way to stay classy IOWA!!!!

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What video is that?
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