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Posted: 3/8/2017 7:11:33 PM EDT
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What would be the purpose?
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Posted: 3/8/2017 10:38:18 PM EDT
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I figure it would be a nice car/truck gun.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 9:24:37 AM EDT
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You're correct. It is a firearm, even under MI law. It's too long to be registered as a pistol.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 8:33:34 PM EDT
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Wouldn't there be better choices for a more powerful than average car/truck gun? I have an AK pistol that can fill that role if necessary and I would consider it to be a bit more practical than a 12 Gauge pistol. But you may have considered details that I have not considered. I appreciate hearing what other people think so let me know.
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Posted: 3/13/2017 8:39:16 PM EDT
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This thing has an AR buffer tube, right?
Seems to me that anyone with access to a lathe can make this under 26" if they are motivated to. |
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Posted: 3/14/2017 3:38:25 PM EDT
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I figure it would be a nice car/truck gun. Downside to that is that it would be an unloaded gun. Because it is classified as a "firearm" it is not covered by CPL. |
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Posted: 3/14/2017 9:03:19 PM EDT
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Downside to that is that it would be an unloaded gun. Because it is classified as a "firearm" it is not covered by CPL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I figure it would be a nice car/truck gun. Downside to that is that it would be an unloaded gun. Because it is classified as a "firearm" it is not covered by CPL. I believe madmatthew was answering the first reply asking what the point of the Shockwave would be. As in, it would have been nice to be able to register it as a pistol and use it as a truck gun, but since it's just over 26" OAL that means we're SOL. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 12:49:59 AM EDT
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I believe madmatthew was answering the first reply asking what the point of the Shockwave would be. As in, it would have been nice to be able to register it as a pistol and use it as a truck gun, but since it's just over 26" OAL that means we're SOL. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 12:58:43 PM EDT
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This thing has an AR buffer tube, right? Seems to me that anyone with access to a lathe can make this under 26" if they are motivated to. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:08:46 AM EDT
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Why would you want this as a defensive or a truck gun?
You won't hit shit well, you have limited capacity, you have to pump it, it kicks like a horse, hard to control. As apposed to a pistol AR15 or a good handgun? |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:42:11 PM EDT
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Why would you want this as a defensive or a truck gun? You won't hit shit well, you have limited capacity, you have to pump it, it kicks like a horse, hard to control. As apposed to a pistol AR15 or a good handgun? |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 9:23:37 PM EDT
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Being that we're posting on Arfcom I want all of them. I like having options available to me. I told him by the time he chooses which rifle he wants to use (he's incredibly indecisive)... it would be already too late. 
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:17:01 PM EDT
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Reminds me of a friend with a safe full of guns (over 15 rifles). All chambered. His logic is in case he needs it for home defense. I told him by the time he chooses which rifle he wants to use (he's incredibly indecisive)... it would be already too late. 
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Posted: 3/27/2017 10:31:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2017 11:02:34 PM EDT
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I was eyeballing the shockwave before I moved here.
Has there been any change in opinion? For the record I want to buy the shockwave because I should be able to. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 7:24:47 AM EDT
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I have a handful of friends here in Michigan who have bought them from dealers.
Seems to be good to go. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 7:38:09 AM EDT
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I was eyeballing the shockwave before I moved here. Has there been any change in opinion? For the record I want to buy the shockwave because I should be able to. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 9:28:27 AM EDT
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Interesting in that means it doesn't have to be registered. Which for me is fine, I don't know if I'll get used to registering a handgun.
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:49:50 AM EDT
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Interesting in that means it doesn't have to be registered. Which for me is fine, I don't know if I'll get used to registering a handgun. MCL 28.432(1)(f) is what you are looking for. 28.432 If you let the out of state cpl lapse you will have to register any handgun purchases that were not registered during the time of having said cpl. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:09:11 AM EDT
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I got to try out a friend's, and while it was a fun novelty....even shooting from the hip with those 'shorty' shells, I'm not sure what actual purpose it would serve well
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Posted: 7/6/2017 12:02:29 PM EDT
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I don't think I would use the shockwave for concealed carry but I think it should be allowed.
As far as usefulness? I don't know. I do know I've always wanted a short shotgun. That's enough for me to justify the purchase. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 3:14:18 PM EDT
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Yeah, it also means you can't carry it concealed. I am glad i got a deal on two 590A1's $650 for both after stamp(wait was 4 months though). Also, if you don;t want to register handguns get an cpl from a different state also. MCL 28.432(1)(f) is what you are looking for. 28.432 If you let the out of state cpl lapse you will have to register any handgun purchases that were not registered during the time of having said cpl. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 5:47:25 PM EDT
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So it cannot be a truck gun? |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 7:35:17 AM EDT
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So it cannot be a truck gun? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, it also means you can't carry it concealed. I am glad i got a deal on two 590A1's $650 for both after stamp(wait was 4 months though). Also, if you don;t want to register handguns get an cpl from a different state also. MCL 28.432(1)(f) is what you are looking for. 28.432 If you let the out of state cpl lapse you will have to register any handgun purchases that were not registered during the time of having said cpl. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 9:14:28 AM EDT
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Unless you have a firearm grandfathered in, there are no more Michigan pistols. The shockwave is over 26 inches. You can shorten up the gun by replacing the grip and register it as a pistol. Or you can go buy a real AOW and register it as a pistol. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 9:36:34 AM EDT
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This isn't exactly true. You can shorten up the gun by replacing the grip and register it as a pistol. Or you can go buy a real AOW and register it as a pistol. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 2:15:38 PM EDT
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Yeah, good luck getting it perfectly 26" and letting the government measure it. 
It doesn't have to be "perfectly" 
It has to be 26" or less with a $5 stamp. Government measure it? lol |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 2:52:43 PM EDT
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This isn't exactly true. You can shorten up the gun by form 1ing the gun, replacing the grip and register it as a pistol. Or you can go buy a real AOW and register it as a pistol. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 5:41:16 PM EDT
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FIFY |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 5:45:26 PM EDT
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This isn't exactly true. You can shorten up the gun by replacing the grip and register it as a pistol. Or you can go buy a real AOW and register it as a pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
This isn't exactly true. You can shorten up the gun by replacing the grip and register it as a pistol. Or you can go buy a real AOW and register it as a pistol. Quoted:
It doesn't have to be "perfectly"
It has to be 26" or less with a $5 stamp. Government measure it? lol |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 11:28:42 PM EDT
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You can buy the Shockwave, but it cannot be registered as a pistol. The thread title is misleading. OP meant we're SOL on registering them as pistols, not that we're completely SOL on owning them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was eyeballing the shockwave before I moved here. Has there been any change in opinion? For the record I want to buy the shockwave because I should be able to. |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 7:17:07 AM EDT
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You are correct sir. At least for me it's real usefulness is in being able to carry it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was eyeballing the shockwave before I moved here. Has there been any change in opinion? For the record I want to buy the shockwave because I should be able to. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 6:13:46 AM EDT
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I agree with you. Even then, it's a little bit of a stretch as to how useful it would be in a defensive situation. Outside of that though, it's really just a novelty. |
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