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Posted: 12/9/2016 12:45:03 PM EDT
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Are you a white male? This matters to the police in Flint.
Why did you stop at a red light in Flint at night? |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 3:09:50 PM EDT
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I'm glad that this ended up with a decent outcome, and looking back for lessons learned is always a good thing.
It's not just the cops that need to keep their heads on a swivel inside the larger cities 
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Posted: 12/9/2016 5:41:12 PM EDT
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Are you a white male? This matters to the police in Flint. Why did you stop at a red light in Flint at night? The guy with the baton and his driver were white, I assume that cancels it out |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:27:03 PM EDT
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Why wasn't a round already chambered?
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Posted: 12/9/2016 7:53:45 PM EDT
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Why wasn't a round already chambered? |
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Posted: 12/9/2016 10:40:39 PM EDT
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I travel Flint. Thanks for the heads up.
What was the "major" road where the incident transpired, so we might heighten awareness? Glad you you made it out of this very unpleasant situation unscathed. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 4:10:38 AM EDT
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I travel Flint. Thanks for the heads up. What was the "major" road where the incident transpired, so we might heighten awareness? Glad you you made it out of this very unpleasant situation unscathed. A side road off Dort, Richfield I think (not familiar with the area), east of Dort. I was dropping off a gal and on my way home. They followed me onto Dort and south. Turned off around Davison and a few miles down the road I pulled into a gas station to wait for the cops and they came back. And not having a round chambered was not my biggest mistake, but I won't make that one again. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 10:09:13 AM EDT
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I'm glad you're safe. It's sad to hear when people aren't that observant.
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Posted: 12/10/2016 11:31:06 AM EDT
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I'm glad you're safe. It's sad to hear when people aren't that observant. I saw the cars coming and when the minivan pulled in front, I drew and chambered before he could reach my door. Was I supposed to use esp and set a counter ambush? Sorry, I'm a bit snarky today. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 12:06:28 PM EDT
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I saw the cars coming and when the minivan pulled in front, I drew and chambered before he could reach my door. Was I supposed to use esp and set a counter ambush? Sorry, I'm a bit snarky today. I read that not as an insult to you, but others who aren't aware of their surroundings that have fallen victim to car jacking. Maybe I am wrong? Dunno. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 1:50:44 PM EDT
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I read that not as an insult to you, but others who aren't aware of their surroundings that have fallen victim to car jacking. Maybe I am wrong? Dunno. I misread what you were saying. And after 24 hours of getting sharpshooted (pun intended) by family and friends that have never fired a pistol before on what I should have done, I'm a little cranky. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 7:41:16 PM EDT
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Michael Moore and the fine citizens of Flint still don't get why GM left.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 2:45:47 PM EDT
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Must be something in the water.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:33:21 AM EDT
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Are you a white male? This matters to the police in Flint. Why did you stop at a red light in Flint at night? The guy with the baton and his driver were white, I assume that cancels it out No, not really. You clearly have a CPL since you were carrying in a vehicle. This implies to the police that you have a clean record. The perps that came up to your vehicle likely had priors, and probably multiple at that. There's a strong probability that they were meth or crack addicts and looking for money for their next hit. Had you shot them, I'm quite confident that the police would have been on your side the entire time as long as it was clean and justified. In my opinion, as soon as the baton tapped the vehicle, you may have legally been able to shoot. If it was only the side of the vehicle, maybe not, but you said you were boxed in so you may have been clear. If it was tapped on a window, I'd say you're definitely clear to shoot the baton-holder. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:18:33 AM EDT
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You're alive so you did well enough. Just use this experience to learn from the mistakes you made so you can be better prepared in the future. Shit like this never goes as planned and mistakes are always made. Seek out professional training & see if you can get training for in & around vehicles. We spend a lot of time in our vehicles, but never train with them.
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Posted: 12/13/2016 6:50:03 AM EDT
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Why wasn't a round already chambered? This Glad you are OK OP. J- |
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Posted: 12/15/2016 9:47:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2016 12:45:23 PM EDT
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I saw the cars coming and when the minivan pulled in front, I drew and chambered before he could reach my door. Was I supposed to use esp and set a counter ambush? Sorry, I'm a bit snarky today. I think you took this the wrong way. I think you were observant and reacted accordingly. It's when people get jacked because they were totally distracted or didn't process events correctly makes me feel sad. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 11:35:12 PM EDT
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Glad to hear you made it out of there that isn't the best area . I used to work down there and saw some crazy stuff. That was 17 years ago I bet its worse now.
If you had a dash cam you would have caught the vehicle in front and had voice recording of your actions. I now live and work in a nice area but still plan to get one just in case. They are very reasonable now. Other than not having a round chambered you did alright. You chambering a round may have help get the point across to the perps . My sister was down at Henry Ford hospital for a long stretch. I went down there often and left many late nights . When stopped at lights the bums would walk out in front my vehicle begging. One night i was behind a police car and it ran every light just bumped the brakes and go. I did the same behind him and he never looked back. I mentioned this to a nurse and she said hun you don't stop at red lights down here. From then on I timed the lights and if the light was red bump and go. |
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Posted: 12/22/2016 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Going into flint at night I'd want a rifle.... not a pistol.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 12:48:50 PM EDT
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I have a friend up off of Dort, near the Machine Shop. He has lived there for over a decade though and doesn't feel like moving yet.
I treat parts of Flint and Detroit the same. At night, I treat stop signs and red lights as yields. |
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