AR pistol? - Page 1

Posted: 7/28/2015 4:04:01 AM EDT

I just my lower yesterday.I want to register as a pistol. How does michigan measure the barrel ? Does it count the muzzle device? What iam trying to find out what is the longest barrel I can use & meet the under 26" requirements? How does it work with the upper? Do I have to fill out a form 1? I tried finding the laws on this ,all I could find was about cpl. Is there a link any where?

Posted: 7/28/2015 9:34:52 AM EDT

[#1]

Scroll down a page or two, theres a current thread going. I built one thats 25.5" I am in the process of making one that will be 27.5. I think You can still register as a pistol, but cant treat it as such with a CPL. I would like to know for certain tho. The 27.5 " upper with a 10" barrel and a standard buffer tube will measure about 27.5 with most standard muzzel devices.

Posted: 7/28/2015 10:52:51 AM EDT

[#2]

If it's a pistol according to MI Law,it will be under 26" OAL and can be carried as such under CPL

Over 26" no stock is firearm
Over 26" with stock is SBR and requires Tax stamp

How you measure OAL is up to you

Posted: 7/28/2015 10:56:12 AM EDT

[#3]

MSP will fall back on how the Feds measure barrel length. So, the muzzle device does not count unless permanently (weld or silver solder) attached.

Posted: 7/28/2015 1:20:12 PM EDT

[#4]

All true. Its the over 26" oal, with a shorter than 16 barrel I have concerns about. In other words, a stockless rifle? But even with the under 16 barrel? Am tempted to go with a shorter barrel just to be safe. Thoughts?

I should add, without the flash hider its under 26, and its not permantly attached. Just threaded on with a crush washer.

Posted: 7/28/2015 3:56:12 PM EDT

[#5]

What barrel length did use at 25.5" ? H how long is a standard length tube ? The phase % tube is 7 3/8

Posted: 7/28/2015 3:58:42 PM EDT

[#6]

I can't find anything on Michigan's web site

Posted: 7/28/2015 6:50:01 PM EDT

[#7]

My LMT 10.5" with a unknown brand carbine length pistol RE measures 25 3/8" from the end of the RE to the muzzle without the FH.

My 10.5" 300BLK with the RRA pistol buffer tube measures the same.

Safe to say a 10.5 with a standard length RE is under 26"OAL.

ETA: the Phase 5 tube is standard length.

Posted: 7/28/2015 8:00:44 PM EDT

[#8]

Sig has their AR pistol 7.5" barrel OAL @ 23" add the sig brace puts it at 24"

Phase 5 7.5" pistol is listed with OAl @ 24" with out sig brace

My guess is that they are counting muzzle device

Posted: 7/28/2015 8:06:12 PM EDT

[#9]

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I can't find anything on Michigan's web site

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Because it's not there.
Some say MIchigan defaults to the Federal way of measuring,some say MSP says the same thing.

What matters is what the Prosecutor wants to due, who you are and if it's an election year.

I don't want to take 50 hours of counsels time up @ $350 per to get undone,when it's so simple just to stay 26" or under.

Posted: 7/29/2015 3:34:56 PM EDT

[#10]

I agree according to the OAL of sig * phase 5 , I wont go above a 7.5 barrel . I would rather play it safe.

Posted: 7/29/2015 4:32:53 PM EDT

[#11]

My buffer tube is about 1/8" shorter than the Phase 5,I have a STD for muzzle device,that puts it just under 26" with a 10.5" barrel

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