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Posted: 4/15/2015 10:18:18 PM EDT
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Out-of-state residents
Non-residents may legally possess a firearm more than 30 inches in length in Michigan. In order for a non-resident to possess a pistol in Michigan, he or she must either be licensed to carry a concealed pistol or be licensed by his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol. The ownership of property in Michigan does not qualify a non-resident to possess a pistol in Michigan. Non-resident concealed pistol possession MCL 750.231a makes it legal for a non-resident of Michigan with a valid CPL issued by his or her state of residence to carry a concealed pistol in Michigan as long as the pistol is carried in conformance with any and all restrictions appearing on the license. Individuals with out of state CPLs are subject to Michigan laws that govern Michigan CPL holders. As many states issue CPLs to out of state residents, officers should verify that the person actually resides in the state that issued the license. If the person does not reside in the state that issued the license, Michigan does not recognize the CPL and the person may not carry a concealed pistol in Michigan. Possession of pistols by non-residents MCL 28.432 makes it legal for non-residents of Michigan who hold valid CPLs issued by another state to possess a non-concealed pistol in Michigan without complying with Michigan’s pistol registration requirements. Additionally, MCL 28.422 exempts residents of other states from Michigan’s pistol registration requirements therefore, allowing them to possess a pistol in Michigan, if all of the following requirements are met: 1. The person is licensed by his or her state of residence to purchase, transport, or carry a pistol, 2. The person is in possession of the license while in Michigan, 3. The person owns the pistol possessed in Michigan, 4. The person possesses the pistol for a lawful purpose as defined in MCL 750.231a, and 5. The person is in Michigan less than 180 days and does not intend to establish residency here. A non-resident must present the license issued by his or her state of residence to a police officer upon demand. Failure to do so is a 90-day misdemeanor. When transporting a firearm in Michigan, non-residents must transport pistols in compliance with MCL 750.231a (discussed above in the Transporting Firearms section), unless they have a concealed pistol license issued by their state of residence. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(fgtwtkajlwxrvorwa1s05hvt))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-28-422.pdf https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._86_2_336854_7.pdf If you have any questions, contact [email protected] Robert Ianni at the AG's office by email and he can get an answer. |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 10:28:13 PM EDT
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2. Can a resident of another state legally possess a pistol in Michigan?
If you are a non-resident of Michigan with a valid concealed pistol permit from your home state, Michigan will recognize your permit (MCL 28.432 & MCL 28.432a). However, you must carry in conformance with any and all restrictions appearing on the permit. You are subject to Michigan's concealed pistol law including but not limited to restrictions on where a concealed pistol may be carried. Without a CPL, a non-resident may not have a pistol in Michigan. http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10953--,00.html#Concealed_Weapons__Non_CPL_Holders_ But then again..... Mr. ,
In Michigan, non-residents may possess (not concealed) a pistol in Michigan if they are licensed by their state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol, MCL 28.422. As a result, an Illinois resident can possess a pistol in Michigan if they have an Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification Card (FOID Card). In order to lawfully do so, the person must possess their FOID Card while in Michigan, present it to a police officer upon demand, possess the pistol only for lawful purposes, and they must be the owner of the pistol. You do not have a license to carry a concealed pistol, therefore, you must carry the pistol visible and non-concealed. Michigan has statutes that prohibit possession of a firearm in certain areas, MCL 750.234d and MCL 750.237a. The above list is not intended to be an exhaustive list of the premises upon which possession of a firearm is prohibited. I recommend that you research Michigan laws regarding the areas you will be visiting. Additionally, when transporting a pistol in Michigan, it must be unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of a vehicle or if no trunk, not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle, MCL 750.231a. Per Michigan law, a pistol carried in the interior of a vehicle is always considered concealed, MCL 750.227. The following are links to the above mentioned statutes for your review: MCL 28.422 http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(cuh...mcl-28-422.pdf MCL 750.231a http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(cuh...l-750-231a.pdf MCL 750.234d http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(cuh...l-750-234d.pdf MCL 750.237a http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(emt...l-750-237a.pdf MCL 750.227 http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(emt...cl-750-227.pdf Sincerely, Sergeant Aimee Maike Training and Standards Division Michigan State Police 7426 N. Canal Road Lansing, MI 48913 (517) 636-6031 Michigan firearms laws. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:28:21 AM EDT
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 8:23:45 AM EDT
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home. Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. We've been working to update our firearm laws, but we can only do so much at once. We've legalized SBR/SBS, we just passed a concealed pistol licensing reform transferring all authority to the state police rather than the counties, and we have a bill that's hopefully passing soon to remove air rifles from the MI definition of firearm. We also are in discussion of a bill that would modify our no concealed carry zones. Slowly but surely we'll get there. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 3:40:23 PM EDT
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Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. We've been working to update our firearm laws, but we can only do so much at once. We've legalized SBR/SBS, we just passed a concealed pistol licensing reform transferring all authority to the state police rather than the counties, and we have a bill that's hopefully passing soon to remove air rifles from the MI definition of firearm. We also are in discussion of a bill that would modify our no concealed carry zones. Slowly but surely we'll get there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home. Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. We've been working to update our firearm laws, but we can only do so much at once. We've legalized SBR/SBS, we just passed a concealed pistol licensing reform transferring all authority to the state police rather than the counties, and we have a bill that's hopefully passing soon to remove air rifles from the MI definition of firearm. We also are in discussion of a bill that would modify our no concealed carry zones. Slowly but surely we'll get there. Don't forget suppressors! 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:08:22 PM EDT
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MO has come a long way in the 31 years I lived here. The first handgun I purchased down here I had to have my wife sign the application and two other residence of the same county saying I was one of the good guys. Now we only have to fill out the 4473 if buying from a dealer, person to person no requirement to do anything.
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Posted: 4/17/2015 3:39:51 PM EDT
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Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home. Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. Wait so that would mean I cant bring my pistols back with me when I visit? We have Constitutional carry here in VT, and no sort of permit is available, I presumed that my drivers license would be all I need. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 7:21:34 PM EDT
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Wait so that would mean I cant bring my pistols back with me when I visit? We have Constitutional carry here in VT, and no sort of permit is available, I presumed that my drivers license would be all I need. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home. Yup. You're out of luck then. If you don't have a physical card indicating you are licensed by MO to possess a pisol or have a CCW, you cannot possess a pistol in MI. Wait so that would mean I cant bring my pistols back with me when I visit? We have Constitutional carry here in VT, and no sort of permit is available, I presumed that my drivers license would be all I need. That's an interesting thought. IANAL and I don't want to find out the hard way. Michigan law states you must be Licensed by your state to carry or possess a pistol if you bring a pistol to MI. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 9:58:06 PM EDT
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MO doesn't require a license to purchase or transport a handgun, we dropped that requirement about 5-6 years ago. I guess I'll leave the little one's at home. I lived in MO when that went away. Do you still have an old purchase permit from back before the law changed? Even though it is now irrevalant in MO, a reading of the text of MI law posted above would make me think an old MO permit would still meet the letter of the law here. (Now that I think about it, I might still have a couple of those in the bottom of a box somewhere.) |
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