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Posted: 11/5/2014 2:23:33 AM EDT
Michigan. Love it or leave it, am I right?
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Posted: 11/5/2014 7:19:05 AM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass?
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Posted: 11/5/2014 7:29:22 AM EDT
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It failed. But the local news reported a hunting season had already been signed into law, going into effect in March. Not sure whats up with that....
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Posted: 11/5/2014 7:48:22 AM EDT
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Michigan sucked it big time with Peterpuffer and the wolf initiative.
It has gotten better than in the past but we still need to change some idiots around here. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 8:49:21 AM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:15:41 AM EDT
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Actually that vote was a moot point, there was already a law passed that give the DNR the right to set which species to hunt and set seasons.
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:16:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:27:53 AM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves We is the freedom loving Michiganders. I have no desire to kill a wolf. That being said, I believe it is our right and part of our heritage to hunt. I would rather have a wolf season so the herd could be regulated and properly managed rather than poached. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 3:27:43 PM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Didn't pass thankfully, I voted no on them on the basis they wanted to create more government out of it. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 7:33:56 PM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves It's not about blasting wolves, it's about proper wildlife management and conservation, I have zero interest in wolf hunting or assassinating small creatures  I knew both proposals were DOA but I did vote yes on both... but hey, 6 municipalities did free the weed, including the one I live in, I'm sure my motorcycling adventures will be even more fun now, dodging all the college drunks was getting boring... 
typo edit... doh! |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 9:14:56 PM EDT
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves These Bleeding Heart Liberal Assholes will care a lot when their little toilet brush dogs turn into a red spot in the snow with a few tufts of fur. When people start to go missing in state parks due to wolves, these idiots will still want the DNR to 'kill them humanely', or 'relocate' them. |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 9:35:11 PM EDT
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These Bleeding Heart Liberal Assholes will care a lot when their little toilet brush dogs turn into a red spot in the snow with a few tufts of fur. When people start to go missing in state parks due to wolves, these idiots will still want the DNR to 'kill them humanely', or 'relocate' them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves These Bleeding Heart Liberal Assholes will care a lot when their little toilet brush dogs turn into a red spot in the snow with a few tufts of fur. When people start to go missing in state parks due to wolves, these idiots will still want the DNR to 'kill them humanely', or 'relocate' them. We can do that and make the DNR money ! |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 10:29:07 AM EDT
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Lets start a ballot proposal to have wolves in every state game area.
We need some wolves in the lower peninsula. Skin in the game so to speak. Think the voters would still want to protect the wolves if they're roaming around school bus stops in large packs? |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 10:42:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 2:34:20 PM EDT
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This is actually funny coming from someone that list Assassin of small creatures on his avatar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves 
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Posted: 11/6/2014 2:44:16 PM EDT
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It would do well for you to remember that most of the hunters don't care about your "assault rifles" either. "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 5:49:42 PM EDT
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Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. Stay a week or two in the middle of the up and then get back to me. I don't like to kill things, just because...but when a pack is less than thirty yards from me and sending a scout out....fk them. Try to out run them... ETA: not many creatures in this continent that are hardwired to prey on ANYTHING that moves. I'll take a bear or coyotes any day over a wolf or pack. And when you see A wolf...you should be more concerned with the rest that you don't see. ETA2: to further clarify....i am in no way saying we should blast them. On the same coin, I should have the option of addressing any issues without fear of me going to jail over it. I have not killed any, but I will tell you the discharge of a firearm is not going to make them change their mind, however five rounds in rapid succession seems to work. Keep in mind that they learn and adapt. |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 9:30:10 PM EDT
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Stay a week or two in the middle of the up and then get back to me. I don't like to kill things, just because...but when a pack is less than thirty yards from me and sending a scout out....fk them. Try to out run them... ETA: not many creatures in this continent that are hardwired to prey on ANYTHING that moves. I'll take a bear or coyotes any day over a wolf or pack. And when you see A wolf...you should be more concerned with the rest that you don't see. ETA2: to further clarify....i am in no way saying we should blast them. On the same coin, I should have the option of addressing any issues without fear of me going to jail over it. I have not killed any, but I will tell you the discharge of a firearm is not going to make them change their mind, however five rounds in rapid succession seems to work. Keep in mind that they learn and adapt. ETA I suppose hunting to keep the population in check would make sense.. How many wolfs do the DNR think are in michigan I wonder? Is it often that humans get stalked by a pack? I have a customer who has seen one take out a deer along the south end of the upper peninsula, So I am aware they are at least to the bridge.. |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 9:38:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhy would you be jailed over protecting yourself from a wolf? I though that was pretty widely accepted? Would you like to explain to the DNR or animal rights groups why you shot on of their babies ? |
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Posted: 11/6/2014 10:21:57 PM EDT
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Would you like to explain to the DNR or animal rights groups why you shot on of their babies ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why would you be jailed over protecting yourself from a wolf? I though that was pretty widely accepted? Would you like to explain to the DNR or animal rights groups why you shot on of their babies ? 
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Posted: 11/7/2014 1:02:36 AM EDT
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Actually that vote was a moot point, there was already a law passed that give the DNR the right to set which species to hunt and set seasons. Heh. Doves? |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 1:07:54 AM EDT
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Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. Come to the other peninsula and see. I have not seen a wolf, but have seen tracks, have been walking my dog (65 lb chocolate lab) around the campground and watched her put her tail between her legs and slink back to camp after sniffing the wolf tracks, know people who caught them in their traps set for coyotes, know people who regularly see them. They are here, in large enough numbers, to need a season to both keep their numbers in check and ensure they fear humans. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 10:57:36 AM EDT
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Come to the other peninsula and see. I have not seen a wolf, but have seen tracks, have been walking my dog (65 lb chocolate lab) around the campground and watched her put her tail between her legs and slink back to camp after sniffing the wolf tracks, know people who caught them in their traps set for coyotes, know people who regularly see them. They are here, in large enough numbers, to need a season to both keep their numbers in check and ensure they fear humans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the two wolf proposals we wanted to pass? Who is we? Not everyone cares about blasting wolves Agreed However I have never, and I mean never, Heard a good reason as to why we should kill wolfs. Maybe in a state with a very high population. But michigan? I don't buy the whole fear mongering about how they are going to kill everything. With that said my mind is open to a honest explanation. I do kill bugs and rodents for a living, but I have a good reason.. Come to the other peninsula and see. I have not seen a wolf, but have seen tracks, have been walking my dog (65 lb chocolate lab) around the campground and watched her put her tail between her legs and slink back to camp after sniffing the wolf tracks, know people who caught them in their traps set for coyotes, know people who regularly see them. They are here, in large enough numbers, to need a season to both keep their numbers in check and ensure they fear humans. The wolf hunt last year was only in 3 areas of the UP. The Ironwood area hunt was because there are wolves actually following deer into Ironwood and walking around. The area by the Keweenaw was because there are a few farmers whose herds are being devastated and the area on the east end is due to predation on peoples dogs and pets. The hunt last year was no where near enough to even reduce the population drastically. When predator populations start to interfere with humans then they need to be managed. But all this is moot because the citizen led initiative that was passed in the legislature trumped the proposals. It goes into effect in March 2015. |
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Posted: 11/18/2014 8:34:20 PM EDT
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ETA I suppose hunting to keep the population in check would make sense.. How many wolfs do the DNR think are in michigan I wonder? Is it often that humans get stalked by a pack? I have a customer who has seen one take out a deer along the south end of the upper peninsula, So I am aware they are at least to the bridge.. Over 600 wolves in the UP according to DNR. There have been wolves hit by cars in the LP. The DNR reported a breeding pair with pups in Cheboygan county a few years ago. Now they say there are none. But who really believes the DNR on any thing they say. The claimed there were no mountain lions in Michigan. But the changed their tune on that and even prosecuted two or three people for poaching one in the UP. |
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Posted: 11/18/2014 10:48:36 PM EDT
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Over 600 wolves in the UP according to DNR. There have been wolves hit by cars in the LP. The DNR reported a breeding pair with pups in Cheboygan county a few years ago. Now they say there are none. But who really believes the DNR on any thing they say. The claimed there were no mountain lions in Michigan. But the changed their tune on that and even prosecuted two or three people for poaching one in the UP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETA I suppose hunting to keep the population in check would make sense.. How many wolfs do the DNR think are in michigan I wonder? Is it often that humans get stalked by a pack? I have a customer who has seen one take out a deer along the south end of the upper peninsula, So I am aware they are at least to the bridge.. Over 600 wolves in the UP according to DNR. There have been wolves hit by cars in the LP. The DNR reported a breeding pair with pups in Cheboygan county a few years ago. Now they say there are none. But who really believes the DNR on any thing they say. The claimed there were no mountain lions in Michigan. But the changed their tune on that and even prosecuted two or three people for poaching one in the UP. The wolves the dnr collared in Cheboygan County ended up being coyotes genetically with a distant gene to an eastern wolf not the gray wolves in Michigan. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 10:22:16 AM EDT
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I hear all Eastern Coyotes are a cross between Coyote and Wolf.
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