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harleyrkc
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Posted: 9/11/2011 12:13:38 PM
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Can we get a tacked list of which local CLEO's and sheriffs dept's were willing or not willing to signoff on Class 3 toys? Feel free to post your results here to start with. Hopefully your results will help someone else figure out who in there area is willing to signoff, and who to avoid.

Burton CLEO was a pleasure to deal. Just remember to take a third copy of your paperwork for him. He keeps a running record of all FFL / Class 3 / etc. paperwork he signs.

Updated to add:
Found this over on the MGO forum.
Contact information for every City Police and County Sheriff Department in the state. Michigan Law Enforcement Agencies

The good guys list
Burton, Genesee County
Berrien County, Sheriff Paul Bailey
Clintron Twp.
Grandville, Kent County
Muskegon Twp.
Midland
Portage Chief White
Rochester
West Bloomfield
Sturgis, St. Joseph County
Allegan County
Cass County
Cheboygan County
Clinton County
Genesee County
Gratiot County
Hillsdale County
Jackson County
Kent County
Livingston County
Marquette County, Sheriff Mike Lovelace
Mecosta County
Macomb County
Monroe County, Bill Nichols (District Attorney)
Muskegon County
Oakland County, Sherriff Bouchard
Ocean County
Otsego county
Ottawa County, Sheriff Rosema
Shiawassee County
Sterling Heights
Washtenaw County
Wexford County
Wyandotte City

The bad guys list
Redford Township
Monroe City
Bay County, Sheriff John Miller
Kalamazoo County
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Posted: 9/11/2011 1:21:15 PM
A list for each county would be excellent.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 1:17:40 AM
Monroe City PD denied
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Posted: 9/12/2011 8:01:11 AM
Macomb Co Sheriff good to go. Sterling Heights was good to go when I use to live there.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 12:52:22 PM
Originally Posted By harleyrkc:
Can we get a tacked list of which local CLEO's and sheriffs dept's were willing or not willing to signoff on Class 3 toys? Feel free to post your results here to start with. Hopefully your results will help someone else figure out who in there area is willing to signoff, and who to avoid.

Burton CLEO was a pleasure to deal. Just remember to take a third copy of your paperwork for him. He keeps a running record of all FFL / Class 3 / etc. paperwork he signs.


burton as in burton city in genesee county?
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Posted: 9/12/2011 2:28:30 PM
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Mecosta county sherrif said he would sign it.



*edit*

Not only will he sign, he came out and signed on the spot, there was no need to drop anything off.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 3:43:18 PM
I updated my OP and will continue to do so if you guys keep posting your results. I'll go take a look over on the Michigan Gun Owners forum, I think a similar thread turned up there yesterday.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 7:38:36 PM
Could I bypass the city and go straight to county? I live in warren if that matters.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 9:51:20 PM
It's not October yet, dummy

Might want to edit your title.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 10:02:00 PM
Kent county Sheriff will sign off.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 10:40:31 PM
Genesee County Sheriff has signed four form 4s for me over the years.
Not you typical Elmer Fudd type duck hunter.

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Posted: 9/12/2011 11:10:58 PM
can you bypass your local township or city police and go straight to the county?
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Posted: 9/12/2011 11:25:37 PM
Updated OP. And its your decision which signature you go for. I started with my local CLEO out of convenience and to push some buttons since I used to get attitude from them prior to this new guy. It looks like the attitude issues with there office have been dealt with. Remember guys these are our rights, don't take no for an answer. You can politely inform him that its a courtesy asking them to sign, there are other signatures and the trust route available.
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Posted: 9/12/2011 11:28:52 PM
Either one can sign.

I went to the Sheriff on my first one and he referred me to the city Chief. 8 weeks later that TWAT that was the City Chief at the time was still dicking me around so I called the Sheriff back and again asked him to sign, he agreed. After that, I just went to see the Sheriff when I needed a signature and he signed off for me after running a quick background check.
Not you typical Elmer Fudd type duck hunter.

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Posted: 9/13/2011 9:22:38 AM
Who is the CLEO in Kalamazoo County and Monroe City that are being ignorant?

They need to change the law on getting a CLEOs signature. Should be like a C&R license, just letting you know but don't need you to do anything else.

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Posted: 9/13/2011 11:49:37 AM
Any word on who to speak to at Macomb County Sheriff? I called the records division, and the lady was clueless...she gave me MI State Police contact number in Lansing.......

I want to get in on a GB for a supressor this week, but want to make sure i can get a sign-off.

Thanks
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Posted: 9/13/2011 2:13:07 PM
Hillsdale Prosecutor should sign. He's one of the guys quoted in the initial news report about the opinion. Sheriff will likely sign as well, but I haven't talked to him yet.
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Posted: 9/13/2011 2:59:52 PM
Can it be a police chief in any Michigan city or must
it be the chief of your local city???
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Posted: 9/13/2011 11:47:20 PM
Has to be the Chief of the jurisdiction in which you live, or your county sheriff.
Not you typical Elmer Fudd type duck hunter.

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Posted: 9/14/2011 6:38:49 PM
marquette county sheriff mike lovelace will sign, just picked up my form 4's for two suppressors
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:42:36 AM
I've sent 2 email requests to the Berrien County Sheriff. So far he has not replied.
I guess it's time to call.and ask.
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Posted: 9/16/2011 12:36:39 AM
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I facebook'd Bouchard (Oakland County sheriff), and he says he will sign if the paperwork is in order.
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Posted: 9/16/2011 7:22:44 PM
Originally Posted By mmorohpmoly:
Who is the CLEO in Kalamazoo County... ?


The Kalamazoo County sheriff is Richard C Fuller III.

Has anyone contacted the Kalamazoo City Chief Jeffrey Hadley? Another option for Kalamazoo would be the prosecutor Jeff Fink.

Has anyone contacted or thought about contacting the head of the State Police Col. Kriste Kibbey Etue? If she is willing to sign the forms, then everyone would be able to get a signature.
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Posted: 9/16/2011 8:21:56 PM
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I'll be interested in seeing if the Kalamazoo City Chief or Prosecutor will sign off on the form, it's starting to look like I'll be having to go the trust route.
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Posted: 9/18/2011 4:57:53 PM
Originally Posted By snakeman48:
I've sent 2 email requests to the Berrien County Sheriff. So far he has not replied.
I guess it's time to call.and ask.


I live in Niles, so I am going to try Richard Huff. He signed my FFL's before. He seem to be a great guy to deal with.
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Posted: 9/18/2011 6:12:25 PM
Originally Posted By Deussne:
Originally Posted By snakeman48:
I've sent 2 email requests to the Berrien County Sheriff. So far he has not replied.
I guess it's time to call.and ask.


I live in Niles, so I am going to try Richard Huff. He signed my FFL's before. He seem to be a great guy to deal with.


I'm in the township of Niles, so I'm forced to seek the Sheriff's signature.

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