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Posted: 11/13/2014 9:26:17 PM EDT
[URL=http://egov.sos.state.or.us/elec/web_irr_search.record_detail?p_reference=20160013..LSCYYYHANDGUN]
Link Posted: 11/13/2014 10:12:52 PM EDT
[#1]
What the fuck is this shit. Portland is going to screw this state up.



http://egov.sos.state.or.us/elec/web_irr_search.record_detail?p_reference=20160013..LSCYYYHANDGUN
Link Posted: 11/13/2014 10:14:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Saw it in GD earlier today. Guess I'm not surprised...............
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 2:58:08 AM EDT
[#3]




A few of my thoughts in red below:
























  1. The people of Oregon
    hereby declare that it is desirable that a central licensing institution issues
    a concealed handgun carry permit annual that would permit concealed handgun
    license holders carry their guns legally in all counties in Oregon with
    restriction.











    So take the current CHL issuing
    responsibility away from duly elected county sheriffs and give it to a central
    licensing institution?  I don’t think so.























    The person in charge of this new
    central licensing institution would surely be appointed – not elected.  You can bet your butt that this person would
    be an anti-gun puppet of the ruling party in Salem too.























    Imagine the rest of the staff at this
    new licensing institution.  Imagine the whole
    new set of requirements for getting a CHL too.
    The burden of the annual renewal requirement mentioned in the
    text above should give you a pretty good idea of what they have in mind.


























  2. The people of Oregon hereby declare that it is desirable
    that all gun owners in Oregon declare through the Oregon state police who would
    inherit their guns and ammunitions upon death and in the event that there is none
    to inherit the guns upon death.  The guns
    would become property of the State.  Such
    guns would be auction by the state and proceeds will be used to improve law
    enforcement in Oregon.









    Owners of legally purchased firearms
    and ammunition in Oregon will now be required to register all firearms and ammunition with the OSP?
    I don’t think so.























    Unless heirs are specified, OSP becomes
    the default heir to all of the deceased’s guns and ammo to sell off for OSP’s
    own profit? No constitutional violation
    or conflict of interest there . . . What about deceased’s car?  Does the DMV get to sell that and pocket the
    money?  What about the deceased’s
    moustache wax?  Does the governor get
    that for his own use?  Maybe the governor
    can move his morally upstanding fiancée into the deceased’s house.


























  3. The people of Oregon hereby declare that it is desirable
    that 50% of funds generated through concealed handgun licensing be used to
    improve law enforcement in Oregon.










    Under the current system, a new four-year
    CHL costs $65 and a renewal costs $50.
    If the anti-gunners in Salem decide to forego the central licensing
    institution and keep the CHL issuing process with the local sheriffs (where it
    belongs), our CHL rates would double.























    The sheriffs are covering their costs
    with the current fees and would have to double them just to pay the required
    50% into the new law enforcement fund.























    Oregon CHL holders on fixed incomes and
    those with limited financial means would not be able to afford this price
    increase.  They would be denied their
    legal right to carry a concealed firearm.
    This is poll tax and is a longtime favorite tool of Jim Crow Democrats.  

























  4. The people of Oregon hereby declare that it is desirable
    that all information concerning concealed handgun license holders be private
    and only open to the state.










    Oregon CHL information is already
    private and not available for public viewing.
    Several attempts by various Oregon newspapers to publish CHL holder
    names have been rejected.























    Keeping CHL holder information with only
    the issuing county sheriff is a good way to make sure private information stays
    private.























    State involvement will surely lead to
    CHL holder names and home addresses being "accidentally” leaked to the press.































  5. The people of Oregon hereby declare that it is desirable
    that all concealed handgun holders submit a mental health report from their
    physicians as part of conditions to qualify to hold a concealed handgun carry
    permit.










    Yet again, this is another poll
    tax.  People who cannot afford to go get
    a physician’s note will be denied their legal right to a CHL.























    As soon as this passes, every single Oregon
    CHL holder immediately becomes mentally unfit and ineligible for a CHL unless
    they can provide the central licensing institution with a report from their
    physicians.  All currently valid permits
    are null and void and each CHL holder is guilty until proven innocent by a physician’s
    note.























    What does the central licensing
    institution consider mentally unfit?  PTSD?  How about something as benign as treatment
    for a two-week bout of depression over the death of a loved one 30 years prior?
    How about something as common as ADD?























    Putting this kind of decision making
    power in the hands of anti-gunners is like putting Nazis in charge of travel
    arrangements for Jews.  


























 

 
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 4:35:17 AM EDT
[#4]
you people need to start getting organized to fight this ASAP.

best is if you can prevent it from getting on the ballot in the first place. but you need to get organized immediately!
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 4:00:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Good luck finding a shrink who will risk liability fo saying someone was stable enough for a carry permit. This is a backdoor way to end carry permits. I hope y'all stop this in it's tracks, I'd like to move back someday.
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 5:28:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Gun legislation through the initiative process is the most dangerous thing I've seen. With the success of I-594 in WA, I can see Bloomberg funding multiple ballot measures to infringe our right to keep and bear arms. And in a state like Oregon, I can see them passing anything they want.
Link Posted: 11/16/2014 8:12:42 PM EDT
[#7]
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Gun legislation through the initiative process is the most dangerous thing I've seen. With the success of I-594 in WA, I can see Bloomberg funding multiple ballot measures to infringe our right to keep and bear arms. And in a state like Oregon, I can see them passing anything they want.
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Can that guy just slip on a banana peel in his kitchen and bump his head already
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