Ya it happens. Seems like OSP has had their heads stuck in their ass here lately. Takes way to long to get through to do a background check and their delays are way to long.

This is the law. 3 business days later the dealer can give it over. There are a few extra boxes to fill out on the 4473 if it goes down like that, but it's not that big of a deal. For some reason there are dealers who either don't know this, aren't sure about it, or won't surrender the firearm even though the law would allow it.

When the ATF agent was doing my FFL application interview he specifically told me that the law allows it but they "hope" that you (the dealer) will wait for an actual approval... Shame on OSP for not informing the dealers of the actual law. Like they care, right... They're obviously more concerned with their idea of "law enforcement" rather than the actual law.

anyways, that's what's up

Three business days later they are allowed to transfer the firearm to you if they haven't heard anything back from OSP. That IS the law per ATF. It's very simple. The chain store must have a policy that doesn't allow them to follow the law...

The key is to ask the FFL is he will release the firearm in accordance with the law or if he will wait for the approval. If he say he will not release it prior to, then take your business elsewhere and tell him that is why.

Is there a list somewhere of dealers that will follow the actual law? I would rather support them then some chain store that ignores the law.

There's a couple lines on the 4473 the dealer has to fill out. There's just a bit of "follow up" paperwork for the dealer but not really anything else I know of. Its not like we have to track the person down and take the gun back. There is some room for dealer discretion I s'pose though. A dealer can refuse any transfer he wishes. The best example of this is a straw purchase. If I think someone is buying a gun for someone else, it's my right (and obligation per ATF) to deny the transfer.

The law per the ATF is very clear, if they don't get back in 3 business days, it can be legally transferred. The the ATF feller was doing my interview we went over this so I was clear. He ended the topic's discussion by saying "of course we'd rather you didn't transfer it and waited until OSP got back to you; but according to the rules and law, you don't have to.



no list that I know of –– you just gotta ask the dealer I s'pose

thumbs up for some good advice

Thanks funny, I'm going on 4 1/2 weeks on my purchase and haven't heard anything so far .

Put in a call to the OSP hotline and left a message ... 5 days later got a callback when I wasn't at home. Message said to call the hotline back again so I left another message ... 6 days later got another call when I wasn't home and the same thing. Pretty much gave up on being able to talk to someone at OSP.

Fired off email complaints to all involved entities and no responses.

I will post here when it finally does go through.

Next time I make another purchase it will be through a dealer who follows the rules.

My friend finally was able to pick up his gun last weekend. He said it was 3 1/2 months since he bought it.

Have you considered contacting your state Representative and Senator? You do vote, right? So your voting registration card will indicate which district you live in.
Fire off an e-mail or call their office. That info should be in a phonebook's blue pages.
It took 4 days for me to get a response about another issue, but they called back.