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Posted: 7/15/2016 5:31:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2016 5:51:41 AM EDT
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I've read a few posts that argue that sbr engraving only becomes necessary upon sale or transfer of the item. Does anybody have any more specific information? Sounds like a reasonable way to get your SBR taken away and/or spend some time in the pokey. |
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Posted: 7/15/2016 10:14:34 PM EDT
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Sounds like a reasonable way to get your SBR taken away and/or spend some time in the pokey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've read a few posts that argue that sbr engraving only becomes necessary upon sale or transfer of the item. Does anybody have any more specific information? Sounds like a reasonable way to get your SBR taken away and/or spend some time in the pokey. LOL. Yeah, I was thinking "how much do you like prison" I bet the same folks who have this idea and have been spreading it use Wesley Snipes' accountant. |
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Posted: 7/15/2016 11:05:49 PM EDT
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Here is a video from an attorney that deals with NFA on this topic.
https://www.full30.com/video/55259c4067f7f72c2d62f0dd06e0464d |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 7:59:57 PM EDT
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:18:34 PM EDT
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct 
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:37:02 PM EDT
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. This is one of those questions you generally ask before you do something that has the potential for having to deal with the feds when they aren't "happy" with you. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:47:00 PM EDT
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Don't have the stamp yet . So why engrave it .
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:49:10 PM EDT
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And at the gun story they said U don't have to engrave it till you sell it.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 9:05:17 PM EDT
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And at the gun story they said U don't have to engrave it till you sell it. Think about it, it doesn't make any sense....why would you need to engrave your name/trust information after you've sold it to someone else?? Just have it engraved once you get confirmation you're receiving the stamp. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 9:54:27 PM EDT
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I will thanks
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Posted: 7/16/2016 9:55:37 PM EDT
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Now to find a place in Canton that will do the engraving for me.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:10:27 AM EDT
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Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct So do you personally know someone this happened to? |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 11:35:55 AM EDT
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Now to find a place in Canton that will do the engraving for me. Guy in Cumming does it whle you wait. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 11:46:27 AM EDT
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Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:17:07 PM EDT
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Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:30:37 PM EDT
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Guy in Cumming does it whle you wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now to find a place in Canton that will do the engraving for me. Guy in Cumming does it whle you wait. Can you give me any other info on the guy in Cumming who does this? |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:56:22 PM EDT
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So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? You can try. Wear plates. Educate yourself. You're in deep water. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:04:40 PM EDT
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I've read a few posts that argue that sbr engraving only becomes necessary upon sale or transfer of the item. Does anybody have any more specific information? Some good reading Here The problem lies in that there is no hard rule or statute to point to. Ask 5 different examiners and you'll get 6 different answers. And then there are field agents that will entirely contradict what examiners will tell you because "they have a badge". Common convention is to have it engraved. Which makes since if you're REALLY making an NFA item from total scratch (silencer or AK blank or anything that doesn't start out with a make/ model/ But I think you're asking about something like an AR lower with pre existing information. Having multiple makers and location information is superfluous and doesn't make any damn sense. Using the existing info on a pre existing firearm does make sense. And without a clear determination there will always be a grey area. Wish I had a better answer for you. My advice is to have it engraved to check that box. It's stupid and imo unneeded but if it makes you sleep better at night just do it. Plus the new Form 1 released a couple weeks ago doesn't make a delineation between the two. So just do it. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:07:28 PM EDT
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You can try. Wear plates. Educate yourself. You're in deep water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? You can try. Wear plates. Educate yourself. You're in deep water. I'm not the one recommending people break a law or physically threaten people. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:15:54 PM EDT
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I'm not the one recommending people break a law. Please, for the class, show where I recommended someone break the law. Much like the prior exercise, you are going to fail miserably. I guess they don't even teach reading comprehension in school anymore. Goddamn standardized testing...... ETA: Nice Edit. No threatening occurred. I live in a rough neighborhood. 
And now it's time to go outside and enjoy the weather.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:26:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please, for the class, show where I recommended someone break the law. Much like the prior exercise, you are going to fail miserably. I guess they don't even teach reading comprehension in school anymore. Goddamn standardized testing...... ETA: Nice Edit. No threatening occurred. I live in a rough neighborhood. And now it's time to go outside and enjoy the weather. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not the one recommending people break a law. Please, for the class, show where I recommended someone break the law. Much like the prior exercise, you are going to fail miserably. I guess they don't even teach reading comprehension in school anymore. Goddamn standardized testing...... ETA: Nice Edit. No threatening occurred. I live in a rough neighborhood. And now it's time to go outside and enjoy the weather. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 5:42:24 PM EDT
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Can you give me any other info on the guy in Cumming who does this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now to find a place in Canton that will do the engraving for me. Guy in Cumming does it whle you wait. Can you give me any other info on the guy in Cumming who does this? I will when i get out if work, i have the info at home, actually ots a book marked theead, but i have it on my tablet and dont have it with me |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 6:25:02 PM EDT
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Paul Hendrixson
President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. [email protected] Does great work and might show you some of his RIP ammo.  |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 6:25:48 PM EDT
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I need someone who can actually engrave near Canton also, I don't trust the mail to send my SIG MPX lower to Tarheel.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 7:20:03 PM EDT
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Not near Canton but Accurate Ordnance in Winder just got an engraver. And you get to see a gen-u-wine precision bolt gun shop.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 8:07:12 PM EDT
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So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still don't understand. I got a factory made lower with ser# make and model on it. Want to make into a SBR. Sent in the paper work to the AFT and using a gun trust. So when I get the stamp from the ATF what do I engrave on the gun. Will the name of my trust be enough. Name of trust, city and state. Everyone knows you go to jail if you jack this up and get busted correct Name one single instance where someone was even CHARGED. We'll wait. So because no one has been charged, that you know of, it's okay to break a law? Can I dump my garbage on your lawn then? People have had the ATF scratch it on with an electro pencil as punishment |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 8:09:17 PM EDT
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S2S is a good guy. He just needs someone to throw hand grenades at him the rest of his life! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not the one recommending people break a law. Please, for the class, show where I recommended someone break the law. Much like the prior exercise, you are going to fail miserably. I guess they don't even teach reading comprehension in school anymore. Goddamn standardized testing...... ETA: Nice Edit. No threatening occurred. I live in a rough neighborhood.
And now it's time to go outside and enjoy the weather. He also needs to learn to not give shit information. He's outside of his lane with his NFA info |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 8:24:24 PM EDT
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Can you give me any other info on the guy in Cumming who does this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now to find a place in Canton that will do the engraving for me. Guy in Cumming does it whle you wait. Can you give me any other info on the guy in Cumming who does this? Paul Hendrixson President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. 4325 Settingdown Circle Suite 103 Cumming, GA 30028 678-965-5334 office 678-965-5343 fax [email protected] www.insertmoldingsolutions.com |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 10:57:41 PM EDT
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How is Paul's work? I'm in Milton and Cumming would be pretty convenient location to engrave my MPX.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 10:51:32 AM EDT
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How is Paul's work? I'm in Milton and Cumming would be pretty convenient location to engrave my MPX. Interested in this also. I have a standard lower and an MPX to engrave, I may get the lower done first to check the work, then do my MPX. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 10:58:41 AM EDT
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Interested in this also. I have a standard lower and an MPX to engrave, I may get the lower done first to check the work, then do my MPX. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How is Paul's work? I'm in Milton and Cumming would be pretty convenient location to engrave my MPX. Interested in this also. I have a standard lower and an MPX to engrave, I may get the lower done first to check the work, then do my MPX. Thats the only place I will let engrave. Its not a trophy engraver. He has a very expensive laser engraver since he makes some sort of medical items that require it. IIRC its 50-75K not something you see at a gunsmith. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 6:52:06 PM EDT
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but sir " There was no intent to break the law"
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:54:20 PM EDT
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How is Paul's work? I'm in Milton and Cumming would be pretty ...  [/URL]
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:54:38 PM EDT
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By any chance does he do it while you wait.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:56:18 PM EDT
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What about 80% lowers do they need to be engraved TOO.
 Some people tell me no. I am not a CRIMINAL till my government makes me one. I was think about try to do one.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:57:16 PM EDT
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By any chance does he do it while you wait.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:59:16 PM EDT
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By any chance does he do it while you wait.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 8:42:38 PM EDT
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Looks good, and it's convenient.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:46:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about 80% lowers do they need to be engraved TOO. Some people tell me no. I am not a CRIMINAL till my government makes me one. I was think about try to do one.An 80% lower build only needs to be engraved if you're going to manufacture it into an NFA firearm (such as an SBR). Otherwise, the BATFE recommends that you engrave it with manufacturer and a serial number, and cops may not recognize that it's legal to have without a serial number, or state law may require one, but it's not required at the Federal level. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 12:25:56 PM EDT
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Paul Hendrixson President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. [email protected] Does great work and might show you some of his RIP ammo.
I went up there yesterday and they were AWESOME. I highly recommend. They did it while I waited and were very cool to talk to. I had no idea they also manufactured cans and BULLETS. Check out Makerbullets.com |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:30:26 PM EDT
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Can he fill the engraving back in so it isn't bare metal?
Edit. What was the cost? |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 2:03:47 PM EDT
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halflife78, send me a pm
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Posted: 7/22/2016 4:48:49 PM EDT
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I went up there yesterday and they were AWESOME. I highly recommend. They did it while I waited and were very cool to talk to. I had no idea they also manufactured cans and BULLETS. Check out Makerbullets.com Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Paul Hendrixson President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. [email protected] Does great work and might show you some of his RIP ammo.
I went up there yesterday and they were AWESOME. I highly recommend. They did it while I waited and were very cool to talk to. I had no idea they also manufactured cans and BULLETS. Check out Makerbullets.com I did not see any cans on the web sight. I need a new suppressor. |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 9:36:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did not see any cans on the web sight. I need a new suppressor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Paul Hendrixson President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. [email protected] Does great work and might show you some of his RIP ammo. I went up there yesterday and they were AWESOME. I highly recommend. They did it while I waited and were very cool to talk to. I had no idea they also manufactured cans and BULLETS. Check out Makerbullets.com I did not see any cans on the web sight. I need a new suppressor. They don't do suppressors, but are great at putting your trust name on your SBR. Look here for a can. |
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Posted: 7/23/2016 1:03:58 AM EDT
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They don't do suppressors, but are great at putting your trust name on your SBR. Look here for a can. http://www.quietriotfirearms.com/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Paul Hendrixson President Insert Molding Solutions, Inc. [email protected] Does great work and might show you some of his RIP ammo.
I went up there yesterday and they were AWESOME. I highly recommend. They did it while I waited and were very cool to talk to. I had no idea they also manufactured cans and BULLETS. Check out Makerbullets.com I did not see any cans on the web sight. I need a new suppressor. They don't do suppressors, but are great at putting your trust name on your SBR. Look here for a can. http://www.quietriotfirearms.com/ When I had mine done he showed me the suppressors they make, was super light totanium and well under $1000. He also had the db reduction but i forgot what it was. That was a few months ago tho so maybe they stopped. |
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Posted: 7/23/2016 4:01:18 PM EDT
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They don't do suppressors, Yeah. They do.
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Posted: 7/23/2016 6:13:02 PM EDT
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Another vote for Paul in Cumming. Did mine and a coworker's lower while we waited.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 4:17:17 PM EDT
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Can someone post the price to engrave please.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 4:44:14 PM EDT
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Can someone post the price to engrave please. I think its $60, don't remember tho |
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