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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:10:40 PM EDT
My deck is 13 years old, and needs to be replaced. The highest point is 13ft off the ground, and is supported with steel posts.

One of the steel posts have rusted from the inside out, and i want replace them with timbers.

How do i figure the correct size of timber to replace with. The deck is 12x20.

Any advise?

Rich
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 5:25:08 PM EDT
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Rich, mine is that high or higher, I replaced with a 12x20' deck and we used 4 6x6s
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 5:54:19 PM EDT
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Use 6 X 6 pressure treated or cedar set on a poured pier, not in the ground or in concrete or you will be doing it again in a few years.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 6:05:20 PM EDT
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I was thinking 4x6, but it sounds like 6x6 is the better choice.

Now I gotta find a way to pull the old footings out, since they are below ground.

Thanks for the input. It looks like a deck demolition day is in the near future.

Any recommendations on a contractor to rebuild it?

Rich
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 6:47:06 PM EDT
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Give the boys an 8lb sledge and let them at the old footings. When we did mine we poured 24" cube footings for each 6x and then a 6" tall stand for each beam to keep them way off the ground. It was my slow season when we rebuilt ours so I hired a handyman deck guy and paid him hourly to be his "bitch." This gave me a foreman, saved me money, allowed me to learn some skills, and using his discount at his supplier almost paid for his entire salary vs the cost I would have paid for the material at HD.
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:10:28 PM EDT
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Go with 6x6 . And use bolts  to tie the deck together.   Nails just won't last .  And they pull apart.

What ever you do don't use 4x4 posts .


Many new homes here in Columbia county have decks built with 4x4 s and they are scary as hell .And many feet higher than your 13 ft.  I won't even step out on them .

gd
Link Posted: 5/28/2015 8:43:16 PM EDT
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6x6 is code minimum now

Google ga deck construction details & a booklet should pop up telling you everything you need to know about the new codes

If the footing is only a couple of inches below ground you could probably install an adjustable post base using anchoring cement inside the cutoff metal post

Link Posted: 5/28/2015 9:46:18 PM EDT
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Handydave
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I was thinking 4x6, but it sounds like 6x6 is the better choice.

Now I gotta find a way to pull the old footings out, since they are below ground.

Thanks for the input. It looks like a deck demolition day is in the near future.

Any recommendations on a contractor to rebuild it?

Rich
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Drill a hole in the existing post big enough to put a 1/2 or 3/4 bolt or piece of rebar through. Use a high lift Jack against the rod to lift it out. You can use any Jack really, you just will need a stout piece of wood to make up the difference as the post is raised.


Or a shit load of tannerite.  Your call.

ETA;


JWS contracting did my parents deck. Jason is the owner and is a solid dude and Iraq vet if it matters to you.


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Handydave


My understanding is that Handydave mainly works on larger projects or commercial work, but he did refer me to a guy who did excellent work installing some attic stairs for me and I'll be using him for other jobs as funds become available.  That guy is Warren Williams, www.warrenwilliamsremodeling.com



 
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My understanding is that Handydave mainly works on larger projects or commercial work, but he did refer me to a guy who did excellent work installing some attic stairs for me and I'll be using him for other jobs as funds become available.  That guy is Warren Williams, www.warrenwilliamsremodeling.com
 
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Handydave

My understanding is that Handydave mainly works on larger projects or commercial work, but he did refer me to a guy who did excellent work installing some attic stairs for me and I'll be using him for other jobs as funds become available.  That guy is Warren Williams, www.warrenwilliamsremodeling.com
 


Warren is a great contractor that I've known for 20 years

As of January 1 I no longer do any residential work regardless of size & only do commercial buildout

I'm always happy to refer qualified contractors to my fellow arfcommers & give advice
Link Posted: 5/31/2015 10:03:03 AM EDT
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OP,

Careful soliciting the advice of engineers; they'll have you cantilevering it.  
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 7:39:30 PM EDT
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Check out http://go.warren-contracting.com/

They do all types of residential from deck to building houses.
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 8:05:35 PM EDT
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Thanks guys for all the recommendations, and advice.

After the first estimate, I have to wonder, What is the going rate per square foot?

The first estimate was, I think, WAY out of line.

Rich
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 7:12:32 AM EDT
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Thanks guys for all the recommendations, and advice.

After the first estimate, I have to wonder, What is the going rate per square foot?

The first estimate was, I think, WAY out of line.

Rich
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Do you have an idea of the material cost?  I typically see labor equal to cost of material for decks.  Total job cost is 2 x material cost.
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 6:00:48 PM EDT
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.

So you are saying $3200?

That is half of the first quote.

Rich
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 6:15:53 PM EDT
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.



So you are saying $3200?



That is half of the first quote.



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Is this a ground level deck or do you need a skyhook to reach it?  

 
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.

So you are saying $3200?

That is half of the first quote.

Rich
Is this a ground level deck or do you need a skyhook to reach it?    


Op says 13 feet off ground

There are a ton of code changes added jan 1, 2014 that drive up cost
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 7:44:53 PM EDT
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.



So you are saying $3200?



That is half of the first quote.



Rich
Is this a ground level deck or do you need a skyhook to reach it?    




Op says 13 feet off ground



There are a ton of code changes added jan 1, 2014 that drive up cost
Something about reading is for fools, I mean, fundamental. Please pardon my lack of comprehension.

 
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 9:59:06 PM EDT
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.

So you are saying $3200?

That is half of the first quote.

Rich
Is this a ground level deck or do you need a skyhook to reach it?    


Op says 13 feet off ground

There are a ton of code changes added jan 1, 2014 that drive up cost



I understand code changes, but to re skin 250 sqft @ $7000, really?

Rich
Link Posted: 6/5/2015 10:40:01 PM EDT
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I understand code changes, but to re skin 250 sqft @ $7000, really?

Rich
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Yes, i have priced out the materials. Retail "Big Box" is $1600.

So you are saying $3200?

That is half of the first quote.

Rich
Is this a ground level deck or do you need a skyhook to reach it?    


Op says 13 feet off ground

There are a ton of code changes added jan 1, 2014 that drive up cost



I understand code changes, but to re skin 250 sqft @ $7000, really?

Rich


It's hard to say without looking at your particular house & what you want.

13' off the ground definitely moves the price up due to significantly decreased productivity vs ground level  & there is a skilled labor shortage which is driving prices up on top of the code changes.


Link Posted: 6/9/2015 10:54:23 AM EDT
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Code varies county by county. Cherokee says that concrete piers should use "simpson post ties" to marry the post to the concrete. You might set new piers to get the deck up and then go back and demo the old ones after I would think.

Take anything i say with a grain of salt because I almost caused Jeff to have no babies (fall onto a joist). I think it was the same deck project where Kevin climbed into a tub and then toppled 6 feet over the edge when he was about 3 or 4 years old. Everything I've built since then has been closer to the ground.
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