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Posted: 4/19/2013 10:33:15 PM
I'm eating at Mellow Mushroom in Roswell tonight and glance over to notice a guy at the bar open carrying. I admit, I think open carry is tactically stupid but, as a gun guy, I can appreciate peoples rights to do this (had my LC9 tucked up under my shirt). Then, I noticed his sagging holster fashioned in a cross-draw at about 7 o'clock position, which would be nearly impossible to draw. Yes, he was drinking. I'm not familiar with the legalities around drinking and carrying because I personally ditch my firearms when I drink. I think I heard it was legal as long as you limit yourself. I hold gun owners to a very high standard and this guy really pissed me off because, as an open carrier, he is making a public statement about gun owners. Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Posted: 4/19/2013 10:42:19 PM
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It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.
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Posted: 4/19/2013 10:56:16 PM
I was at the gym today and this lady was walking around with her service pistol on. She had her badge on too. Not sure much working out was going on.
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Posted: 4/19/2013 10:57:37 PM
I would have had the nearly uncontrollable urge to snatch it away from him, just show how easy it is!
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Posted: 4/19/2013 10:59:30 PM
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I would have had the nearly uncontrollable urge to snatch it away from him, just show how easy it is!


I could have blown hard and it would have fallen off. It looks more secure in the photo but it was flopping all over the place. Very cheap looking universal holster.
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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:17:20 PM
I will admit I open carry. BUT I never drink and carry. I carry in a level 3 serpa and if I am just wearing a t shirt or its cold and I have a jacket I cover my weapon.

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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:38:03 PM
I *do not* open carry. But I *have* been running OWB for a while and enjoying the extra comfort - first with my XDS, and now with my M&P9 pro (fullsize). Since I work from home, my daily wear is jeans or shorts (weather) and a t-shirt.

Given the higher ride height (Raven concealment) and lack of being held close up against my body like my IWB (not to mention carrying @ 3:30 vs 4-5:00), it prints a great deal with a light t-shirt. I have been surprised at how *no one* notices. I can only assume either I do a reasonable job distracting from it with my arm/hand near the butt or sights, or they are just conditioned to seeing people w/cell phones on belt clips and assume its a bulky phone.




With the ability to carry a fullsize pistol in this manner, I just fail to see any advantage in open carry....unless you actually like the attention.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 2:15:33 AM

Originally Posted By DJinGA:
I *do not* open carry. But I *have* been running OWB for a while and enjoying the extra comfort - first with my XDS, and now with my M&P9 pro (fullsize). Since I work from home, my daily wear is jeans or shorts (weather) and a t-shirt.

Given the higher ride height (Raven concealment) and lack of being held close up against my body like my IWB (not to mention carrying @ 3:30 vs 4-5:00), it prints a great deal with a light t-shirt. I have been surprised at how *no one* notices. I can only assume either I do a reasonable job distracting from it with my arm/hand near the butt or sights, or they are just conditioned to seeing people w/cell phones on belt clips and assume its a bulky phone.




With the ability to carry a fullsize pistol in this manner, I just fail to see any advantage in open carry....unless you actually like the attention.

There is a good chunk of text here, and I would like to read it, but I can't make it past your avatar for some reason. I just keep going back to look at it.

Strange.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 8:57:46 AM
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:00:08 AM
Originally Posted By Westgram:

Originally Posted By DJinGA:
I *do not* open carry. But I *have* been running OWB for a while and enjoying the extra comfort - first with my XDS, and now with my M&P9 pro (fullsize). Since I work from home, my daily wear is jeans or shorts (weather) and a t-shirt.

Given the higher ride height (Raven concealment) and lack of being held close up against my body like my IWB (not to mention carrying @ 3:30 vs 4-5:00), it prints a great deal with a light t-shirt. I have been surprised at how *no one* notices. I can only assume either I do a reasonable job distracting from it with my arm/hand near the butt or sights, or they are just conditioned to seeing people w/cell phones on belt clips and assume its a bulky phone.




With the ability to carry a fullsize pistol in this manner, I just fail to see any advantage in open carry....unless you actually like the attention.

There is a good chunk of text here, and I would like to read it, but I can't make it past your avatar for some reason. I just keep going back to look at it.

Strange.


I'm digging the new avatar.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:18:24 AM
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:24:59 AM
Originally Posted By Greglat1:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!


I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:38:45 AM
Originally Posted By Jacare:

I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'


What clip are you calling a magazine
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:39:51 AM
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By Greglat1:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!


I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'


I think he means the holster has a belt clip that is facing away from the body, as in it looks to be reversible. Think cheap Uncle Mikes holsters.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:42:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By Greglat1:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!


I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'


Uh, he's not wrong. It IS a clip. A belt clip.

The 'universal' holster has a belt clip on both sides.

I was gonna zoom in the pic to show, but I got distracted by DJ's new avatar . . .



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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:52:08 AM
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Originally Posted By TerryC:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By Greglat1:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!


I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'


Uh, he's not wrong. It IS a clip. A belt clip.

The 'universal' holster has a belt clip on both sides.

I was gonna zoom in the pic to show, but I got distracted by DJ's new avatar . . .



ETA: Beaten.


If that's the case, I take it back. Didn't zoom in to pic.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 1:16:35 PM
Hey! That guy in the OP's pic is the Navy SEAL who valeted his car last night! He gets around.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 1:34:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Sleazy-E:
Hey! That guy in the OP's pic is the Navy SEAL who valeted his car last night! He gets around.


Story? Edit: Nevermind; found it.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 3:34:10 PM
I am transfixed by the polka dots. I would not have noticed anything else.

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Posted: 4/20/2013 8:47:08 PM
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I am transfixed by the polka dots. I would not have noticed anything else.



My wife's arm got in the way. I'm obviously not that good at taking covert pictures, but I'm working on my skillz.
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Posted: 4/20/2013 11:20:50 PM
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


He meant clip as in device that attaches things to other things.
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Posted: 4/21/2013 12:04:50 AM

Originally Posted By M82Assault:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


He meant clip as in device that attaches things to other things.

Jacare has shown he's not the brightest bulb in the bunch. He'll get it eventually.
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Posted: 4/21/2013 3:51:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Mutki:

Originally Posted By M82Assault:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


He meant clip as in device that attaches things to other things.

Jacare has shown he's not the brightest bulb in the bunch. He'll get it eventually.

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Posted: 4/21/2013 9:14:11 AM
Originally Posted By Mutki:

Originally Posted By M82Assault:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


He meant clip as in device that attaches things to other things.

Jacare has shown he's not the brightest bulb in the bunch. He'll get it eventually.


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Posted: 4/21/2013 12:47:41 PM
AFAIK, it's not illegal to carry while intoxicated, just illegal to use a gun while intoxicated.
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Posted: 4/21/2013 1:42:11 PM
Originally Posted By TerryC:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By Greglat1:
Originally Posted By Jacare:
Originally Posted By M4A1Carbine:
It looks like there's a clip on the side of the holster facing the camera, like it's a RH IWB holster. I wouldn't give him a hard time, he's probably just a member of that SWAT team from Herkimer, NY taking some well deserved R&R.


The guy making fun of the NY SWAT team refers to a 'magazine' as a 'clip?'


Pretty sure he is making fun of the guy with the EOTech mounted backwards in a photo. That same photo also turned into a grumpy cat thread.....classic!!


I know exactly what he is referring to, just ironic the same guy called a 'magazine' a 'clip.'


Uh, he's not wrong. It IS a clip. A belt clip.

The 'universal' holster has a belt clip on both sides.

I was gonna zoom in the pic to show, but I got distracted by DJ's new avatar . . .



ETA: Beaten.

I can change avatars if she's too much of a distraction.
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