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Posted: 4/1/2013 11:55:47 AM
Mixed feelings about this as I'd agree that lack of public transportation definitely contributes to congestion on 400 but I'm also pretty sure crime statistics will show that access to new areas by the goblin element will lead to higher crime rates.

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Posted: 4/1/2013 12:08:02 PM
Do that and make a connecting line that runs to Emory and I'll be happy.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 12:43:34 PM
I think it could be good just so long as they police it. In other cities, you pay a premium to be walking distance from a rail station. I could see myself using it to get downtown or to the airport, but I don't think I have ever.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 12:57:35 PM
So long as it doesnt come into Cobb they can take it wherever they want.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 12:57:38 PM
I'm curious where the money will come from for this - based on union costs and a wild guess, that looks to be a billion dollar expansion.

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Posted: 4/1/2013 1:45:42 PM
Glad its not coming up 85.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 1:47:42 PM
Originally Posted By glock23carry:
I'm curious where the money will come from for this - based on union costs and a wild guess, that looks to be a billion dollar expansion.

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50% of all income by MARTA is required to be spent on infrastructure. They have more money than they can spend in that account since they can't use it for operating expenses.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 1:55:37 PM
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Cool, I'd rather get on at Windward than have to drive all the way to Sandy North Springs.

I HATE driving inside the perimeter, so I take MARTA when I have to go to a function in ATL.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:13:45 PM
Where did you get this info?
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and you can burn the whole state down as far as Im concerned. Kalifornia aint got Shit on The Great State of Georgia.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:40:04 PM
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
So long as it doesnt come into Cobb they can take it wherever they want.


you're retarded

I would gladly ride my bike from east cobb down to the big chicken, or even johnson ferry/roswell road intersection to hop on a train to go downtown. the people who ride the east/west line by Phillips Arena(the "ones" who ruin the MARTA experience) won't be coming up this way anyways....

When i was dating an Au Pair from Sweden, I took her and her sweedish friends for a ride one evening after we finished the Aquarium and dinner, and we got on at phillips and rode a few exits east and west. They all said they've never been stared at more....lol
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:50:06 PM
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Originally Posted By s30series:
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
So long as it doesnt come into Cobb they can take it wherever they want.


you're retarded

I would gladly ride my bike from east cobb down to the big chicken, or even johnson ferry/roswell road intersection to hop on a train to go downtown. the people who ride the east/west line by Phillips Arena(the "ones" who ruin the MARTA experience) won't be coming up this way anyways....

When i was dating an Au Pair from Sweden, I took her and her sweedish friends for a ride one evening after we finished the Aquarium and dinner, and we got on at phillips and rode a few exits east and west. They all said they've never been stared at more....lol


So let them open a station right across from your house. The goblins will love that their easy pickins have expanded into one of the more wealthy counties in the state.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By s30series:
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
So long as it doesnt come into Cobb they can take it wherever they want.


you're retarded

I would gladly ride my bike from east cobb down to the big chicken, or even johnson ferry/roswell road intersection to hop on a train to go downtown. the people who ride the east/west line by Phillips Arena(the "ones" who ruin the MARTA experience) won't be coming up this way anyways....

When i was dating an Au Pair from Sweden, I took her and her sweedish friends for a ride one evening after we finished the Aquarium and dinner, and we got on at phillips and rode a few exits east and west. They all said they've never been stared at more....lol


So let them open a station right across from your house. The goblins will love that their easy pickins have expanded into one of the more wealthy counties in the state.


I dont think a residential zoned area can support a marta station....now in a commercial district, like near the avenue, merchants walk, or what have you, that would be nice. They are not going to open a station across the street from Pope High

Once again, the people that ruin marta have no buisness up here, so why would they come? Does the MARTA station in buckhead ruin property values and degrade that area? Fuck no, it helps it out tremendously.

You're using the mentaily that just because there are bad areas in atlanta that MARTA goes to, and just because some of the people that ride IN THOSE AREAS are retarded, thats makes the ENTIRE marta system bad, when it's not. Another girl i used to date lives at the Realm in buckhead, and walked 200ft to the station and rode it to work mon-fri downtown to the Peachtree Plaza where she works as a hotel coordinator. They paid for her pass, and it was AWESOME. she never drove her car.

I love spending weekends in midtown, going to the park and hanging out with friends drinking beer, throwing a football, riding bikes, eating awesome food, and just enjoying the summer with free concerts at unplugged at the park. Driving down there sucks. 45 miles round trip from east cobb, every weekend costs money in gas, maintence on my car, and emmissions. Plus sitting in traffic blows. A marta station a few miles away, and I would ride my bike and hop on.

Take a vacation to Chicago and see how great their transit system is. Not needing a car and going everywhere you want is AWESOME. Granted, Chicago is a shit hole to live in , its nice to vacation in the summer...lol Atlanta will NEVER be like Chicago, but at least we can try to improve what shitty transit we have.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:19:31 PM
They have been discussing this for a while. By the time it is done, if it ever gets started, I will be retired and tending my garden in Lumpkin Co.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:19:34 PM
Bad, very bad.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:29:09 PM
I am unaware of an area where Marta has increased property values
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:30:38 PM
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Originally Posted By s30series:

I dont think a residential zoned area can support a marta station....now in a commercial district, like near the avenue, merchants walk, or what have you, that would be nice. They are not going to open a station across the street from Pope High

Once again, the people that ruin marta have no buisness up here, so why would they come? Does the MARTA station in buckhead ruin property values and degrade that area? Fuck no, it helps it out tremendously.

You're using the mentaily that just because there are bad areas in atlanta that MARTA goes to, and just because some of the people that ride IN THOSE AREAS are retarded, thats makes the ENTIRE marta system bad, when it's not. Another girl i used to date lives at the Realm in buckhead, and walked 200ft to the station and rode it to work mon-fri downtown to the Peachtree Plaza where she works as a hotel coordinator. They paid for her pass, and it was AWESOME. she never drove her car.

I love spending weekends in midtown, going to the park and hanging out with friends drinking beer, throwing a football, riding bikes, eating awesome food, and just enjoying the summer with free concerts at unplugged at the park. Driving down there sucks. 45 miles round trip from east cobb, every weekend costs money in gas, maintence on my car, and emmissions. Plus sitting in traffic blows. A marta station a few miles away, and I would ride my bike and hop on.

Take a vacation to Chicago and see how great their transit system is. Not needing a car and going everywhere you want is AWESOME. Granted, Chicago is a shit hole to live in , its nice to vacation in the summer...lol Atlanta will NEVER be like Chicago, but at least we can try to improve what shitty transit we have.


There have been several cases of ghetto goblins riding the trains up to the more affluent areas and committing property crimes and then riding the train back to their lair. I would prefer to limit their AO from entering into my AO. Please move to the areas already featuring the services you would like instead of forcing it onto the rest of us.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:33:02 PM
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Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By s30series:

I dont think a residential zoned area can support a marta station....now in a commercial district, like near the avenue, merchants walk, or what have you, that would be nice. They are not going to open a station across the street from Pope High

Once again, the people that ruin marta have no buisness up here, so why would they come? Does the MARTA station in buckhead ruin property values and degrade that area? Fuck no, it helps it out tremendously.

You're using the mentaily that just because there are bad areas in atlanta that MARTA goes to, and just because some of the people that ride IN THOSE AREAS are retarded, thats makes the ENTIRE marta system bad, when it's not. Another girl i used to date lives at the Realm in buckhead, and walked 200ft to the station and rode it to work mon-fri downtown to the Peachtree Plaza where she works as a hotel coordinator. They paid for her pass, and it was AWESOME. she never drove her car.

I love spending weekends in midtown, going to the park and hanging out with friends drinking beer, throwing a football, riding bikes, eating awesome food, and just enjoying the summer with free concerts at unplugged at the park. Driving down there sucks. 45 miles round trip from east cobb, every weekend costs money in gas, maintence on my car, and emmissions. Plus sitting in traffic blows. A marta station a few miles away, and I would ride my bike and hop on.

Take a vacation to Chicago and see how great their transit system is. Not needing a car and going everywhere you want is AWESOME. Granted, Chicago is a shit hole to live in , its nice to vacation in the summer...lol Atlanta will NEVER be like Chicago, but at least we can try to improve what shitty transit we have.


There have been several cases of ghetto goblins riding the trains up to the more affluent areas and committing property crimes and then riding the train back to their lair. I would prefer to limit their AO from entering into my AO. Please move to the areas already featuring the services you would like instead of forcing it onto the rest of us.


Theres also been several cases of douchey east cobb high schoolers that go around and trash mailboxes, steal cars, key random cars, etc etc etc
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And i never said it would increase property values....im simply stating a marta station in a commercial district would not be as harmful as you think in an upper middle class area.
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I would love to have it come up 75. Being able to hop on a train at KSU and ride down to Atlanta sounds phenomenal.
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Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
I would love to have it come up 75. Being able to hop on a train at KSU and ride down to Atlanta sounds phenomenal.


I agree....for somereason us "younger" generation seems to get the whole urban sprawl thing and understands that transportation is a key to a cities success. As stated earlier, Atlanta is far from an ideal city, but this is my home and i want to make it better for future generations to travel to and from the city in a cost effective, less pollution, less wasted time, and less trafficky way.

The older guys can sell out and move south of the piedmont and farm or something Ill stick with my 5-points loving, beer growler loving, co-op garden loving, trader joes loving, eco-friendly, recycle loving, real parks loving, GUN loving peoples and areas
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Posted: 4/1/2013 3:42:03 PM
DO NOT WANT......Only time I ride MARTA is to go down to the airport so while I'm a little ways from Winward, I don't like the idea of the trains going that far north but my guess is Alpharetta/Milton/Johns Creek will shut it down.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 4:04:30 PM
Originally Posted By s30series:
Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
I would love to have it come up 75. Being able to hop on a train at KSU and ride down to Atlanta sounds phenomenal.


I agree....for somereason us "younger" generation seems to get the whole urban sprawl thing and understands that transportation is a key to a cities success. As stated earlier, Atlanta is far from an ideal city, but this is my home and i want to make it better for future generations to travel to and from the city in a cost effective, less pollution, less wasted time, and less trafficky way.

The older guys can sell out and move south of the piedmont and farm or something Ill stick with my 5-points loving, beer growler loving, co-op garden loving, trader joes loving, eco-friendly, recycle loving, real parks loving, GUN loving peoples and areas


Personally, I would like a transit station somewhere near Delk road. I turned out a couple of nice jobs in Midtown because of the commute (I work from home right now).

I would consider Jeffco to be a member of the "younger" generation. He is definitely not a grumpy old man if that is what you are referring to. :)
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Posted: 4/1/2013 4:05:40 PM
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I would love to have it come up 75. Being able to hop on a train at KSU and ride down to Atlanta sounds phenomenal.


I agree....for somereason us "younger" generation seems to get the whole urban sprawl thing and understands that transportation is a key to a cities success. As stated earlier, Atlanta is far from an ideal city, but this is my home and i want to make it better for future generations to travel to and from the city in a cost effective, less pollution, less wasted time, and less trafficky way.

The older guys can sell out and move south of the piedmont and farm or something Ill stick with my 5-points loving, beer growler loving, co-op garden loving, trader joes loving, eco-friendly, recycle loving, real parks loving, GUN loving peoples and areas


The difference between "democratic puppies" and "republican puppies" happens right around 6 weeks of age.
You see, at 6 weeks of age puppies magically become "republican" once they've opened their eyes.....
Not saying you vote democrat, simply stating that with age it is easier to step back and look at the WHOLE picture.

It's a benefits vs. liabilities thing.

People who would USE the service, and do NOT own property or have a long-term "vested interest" near the afflicted areas, would be MUCH more likely to approve of such "improvements."

However, those who have been around for a while, who have NO interest in using MARTA, who would have their property values drop, have their taxes rise to pay for another wasteful .gov enterprise, pay for additional police protection, higher insurance rates, increased property damage, and decreased business incomes, due to the undesirables who migrate to MARTA served areas, are LESS likely to approve...

To each his own, but personally I fall into the latter catagory!
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Originally Posted By Emu:
Originally Posted By s30series:
Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
I would love to have it come up 75. Being able to hop on a train at KSU and ride down to Atlanta sounds phenomenal.


I agree....for somereason us "younger" generation seems to get the whole urban sprawl thing and understands that transportation is a key to a cities success. As stated earlier, Atlanta is far from an ideal city, but this is my home and i want to make it better for future generations to travel to and from the city in a cost effective, less pollution, less wasted time, and less trafficky way.

The older guys can sell out and move south of the piedmont and farm or something Ill stick with my 5-points loving, beer growler loving, co-op garden loving, trader joes loving, eco-friendly, recycle loving, real parks loving, GUN loving peoples and areas


The difference between "democratic puppies" and "republican puppies" happens right around 6 weeks of age.
You see, at 6 weeks of age puppies magically become "republican" once they've opened their eyes.....
Not saying you vote democrat, simply stating that with age it is easier to step back and look at the WHOLE picture.

It's a benefits vs. liabilities thing.

People who would USE the service, and do NOT own property or have a long-term "vested interest" near the afflicted areas, would be MUCH more likely to approve of such "improvements."

However, those who have been around for a while, who have NO interest in using MARTA, who would have their property values drop, have their taxes rise to pay for another wasteful .gov enterprise, pay for additional police protection, higher insurance rates, increased property damage, and decreased business incomes, due to the undesirables who migrate to MARTA served areas, are LESS likely to approve...

To each his own, but personally I fall into the latter catagory!


If my taxes are raised to fund something that me, a citizen, would use- then i have no problem with a tax increase. Thats what taxes are for. I am giving the government my money to build something I will use. However, I would hope a MARTA expansion would not be funded by a tax increase, as discussed from their funding source earlier in the tread.

For someone who will not use it, sure- you dont want it. If they wanted to build an amtrak station near me, I would "vote" no because I wouldnt ever use that shit. MARTA? Hell yes I would use it. There are 20,000 + students in the kennesaw area that I guarantee would use it,

As far as property values dropping- they arent going to build it in the middle of a McMansion neighborhood. Thats just a dumb thing to say/believe. Just because a marta station is build 2 miles away from your house doesnt mean the value of your house will drop. Show me statistics of this in a well off area. Buckhead would not exist if it werent for that transit station. With the ever growing "younger generation" who are coming up and getting into the hosuing market like me, having a marta station (to me) would make me want to pay more. Thats how it works downtown. Thats how it works most places. You pay for location- you're near a transit hub, so you can get to where you need to be quicker and easier.

We're talking east cobb coutny here....and the north point area. Like i've said 1000 times, the people who ruin Marta do not have the $$$$ to come up here and "ruin" it for us. Property values are high up here, and the cost of living is much, much, much more than it is south of I20. Yalls excuses just don't add up.You seriously believe that a MARTA station in an urban area like NorthPoint will transport all the homeless and poor up here and they will set up shop- and then we'll have to start carrying our SBRs instead of handguns to defend ourselves..

As far as demo and repub puppies, i agree Ive voted demo a few times, but not in anything major. The thing about hard core right wings that I hate is the whole tax issue. NO MORE TAXES! BLAHHH! then stop driving your cars on roads, stop flushing the toilet, go dig a well, and farm your own food. Basically, go live on a farm. Taxes are an essential part of life- if they want to raise sales tax in Cobb coutny .5% for three years to build a full marta station that goes to KSU, FUCK YEAh im okay with that. Its all about where the tax money goes and seeing your tax dollars at work to make life better off for the citizen.
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I agree with, and fall into the same category as Emu.
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