Author
Message
Scuba-Scott
Member
Offline
Posts: 278
Feedback: 100% (3)
Posted: 12/19/2012 8:26:58 AM
Hey all,

So I'm looking to add a Colt or Head-Down to the collection. I'm really leaning towards the Colt, but want some input.

I'm looking at a LE6920 vs. probably a HDX-M4, maybe a HDX-TAC7. If I get the LE6920 or HDX-M4 I'll add the quad rail. I know both are quality products, and I'm not really thinking there's any benefit to the "which is better" in terms of performance discussion (but feel free to chime in if you disagree).

What I'm considering is I do not own a Colt (or a HD for that matter) and I think a Colt is a 'staple' of a AR collection due to it's history. It's a little more expensive, about $200 or so, but I also understand their resale is better (though I have zero plans to sell it). I like the idea of having the 'historic' name of Colt in the collection, but also appreciate Head Down is a local Georgia company who makes a good product.

What's your thoughts on this? Obviously Colt isn't what it used to be, no company is anymore it seems and history changes. But it's still the grandfather of AR's IMO. Would you all agree, disagree? Would you pick the Colt over the Head-Down, or vice versa? Do you think the Colt is still a staple every AR collector should have if they're able? Is the $200 more "worth it" for the Pony roll?

I'll probably SBR whichever I get if that matters.


Thanks everyone!!!!
ledslngr
Offline
Posts: 21
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 8:57:59 AM
In my opinion the name on the side is not important. I look for quality for the price. Daniel Defense and the like are hard to beat on quality but that comes with a price. You dont want to spend your money on junk, but at the same time you dont want to pay for a name. I went to school with Dave from Head Down and wouldnt hesitate to spend my money at his place, some here dont like him but i think he's good people. I've never been a brand name junky so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Mutki
Every day I'm hustlin'.
Offline
Posts: 2138
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 8:58:45 AM
I'm going to say Colt.

In before the shit storm.
"My dog is German. He barks at everybody. I think he's eyeballing France right now..." - demobud
When all else fails... vote from the rooftops.
Μολὼν λαβέ
robpiat
Offline
Posts: 5864
Feedback: 100% (96)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 9:29:22 AM
If you are looking for a Sbr, I would just buy a lower or a factory Sbr.

I don't see the value in buying a colt, dd, etc and swapping the barrel etc


If you are looking for a 16" ar I would go with a dd if you like the configuration.


If you are going to swap handguards gas blocks etc just build it up.
shootemup123
Offline
Posts: 300
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 9:30:38 AM
Colt
ikickhippies
Teflon Coated/ Root Beer Cooled
Offline
Posts: 4739
Feedback: 100% (165)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 9:46:29 AM
Originally Posted By shootemup123:
Colt


What He said.
Proverbs 13:20- He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
00bullitt
Member
Offline
Posts: 3623
Feedback: 100% (114)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 10:25:53 AM
Colt and HDP are not even apples to apples.

Colts are Tier One product. HDP is a Tier 3 product.

Go with the Colt.
-Amateurs do it til they get it right. Professionals do it til they can't get it wrong.-

-Your worst needs to be better than their best.-
clown714
Offline
Posts: 709
Feedback: 100% (3)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 11:16:31 AM
colt

clown
kylestyle
Offline
Posts: 2295
Feedback: 100% (59)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 11:29:37 AM
I wouldn't buy a 6920 to SBR it. SBR'ing a stripped lower would be my choice. However of the two options the Colt is the better one.
robpiat
Offline
Posts: 5866
Feedback: 100% (96)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 11:38:59 AM
Originally Posted By 00bullitt:
Colt and HDP are not even apples to apples.

Colts are Tier One product. HDP is a Tier 3 product.

Go with the Colt.


Is there any evidence of that? I've only held a hdp rifle but I am not aware of anything that is measurable that makes it any lower quality than any other factory ar.
00bullitt
Member
Offline
Posts: 3624
Feedback: 100% (114)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 11:57:45 AM
Originally Posted By robpiat:
Originally Posted By 00bullitt:
Colt and HDP are not even apples to apples.

Colts are Tier One product. HDP is a Tier 3 product.

Go with the Colt.


Is there any evidence of that? I've only held a hdp rifle but I am not aware of anything that is measurable that makes it any lower quality than any other factory ar.


What kind of evidence would you like? The sum of the parts should be enough.

I can assure you, that to guys who send rounds down range that are measured in the quantity of thousands of rounds, that the quality is notable and measurable in a tier one rifle.
-Amateurs do it til they get it right. Professionals do it til they can't get it wrong.-

-Your worst needs to be better than their best.-
Mutki
Every day I'm hustlin'.
Offline
Posts: 2139
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 11:58:09 AM

Originally Posted By robpiat:
Originally Posted By 00bullitt:
Colt and HDP are not even apples to apples.

Colts are Tier One product. HDP is a Tier 3 product.

Go with the Colt.


Is there any evidence of that? I've only held a hdp rifle but I am not aware of anything that is measurable that makes it any lower quality than any other factory ar.

I'm surprised they haven't started the hardcore bashing in this thread yet.
"My dog is German. He barks at everybody. I think he's eyeballing France right now..." - demobud
When all else fails... vote from the rooftops.
Μολὼν λαβέ
ceetee
Jack of all trades, Master of none.
Offline
Posts: 3161
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 12:34:45 PM
What rock have I been living under? I've never even heard of Head Down rifles. I'd go with the Colt on name recognition/resale value alone. That is, if I wasn't going to save myself the 11% excise tax and just assemble my own.
‘‘We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts — not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.’’
— Abraham Lincoln
bhintz10
Offline
Posts: 344
Feedback: 96% (27)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 12:53:00 PM
Originally Posted By ceetee:
What rock have I been living under? I've never even heard of Head Down rifles. I'd go with the Colt on name recognition/resale value alone. That is, if I wasn't going to save myself the 11% excise tax and just assemble my own.


Glad I'm not the only one.
jeffco55
Member
Offline
Posts: 8477
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 1:31:49 PM
Hessie or Blackthorn puts out a great rifle at a great price! Also Red Jacket is a good one to look into.
Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. - Thomas Sowell
Bradd_D
Offline
Posts: 14296
Feedback: 100% (365)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2012 1:44:31 PM
Serious shooter or collector get the Colt. Recreational shooter get either.
Scuba-Scott
Member
Offline
Posts: 289
Feedback: 100% (3)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/22/2012 11:56:20 PM
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the advise. Ended up going with the Colt and picked it up yesterday.

Now I just need to find some more ammo so I can go have some fun-time. I only have about 200 rounds, so I want to find more first. I have a feeling it'll be January before it gets shot.. Oh well, at least i got it and for a fair price all things currently considered...


Thanks again for the input everyone!
bzl
Offline
Posts: 27
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/22/2012 11:59:36 PM
From which store/site?

Originally Posted By Scuba-Scott:

Thanks for all the advise. Ended up going with the Colt and picked it up yesterday.