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Posted: 8/21/2012 1:37:36 PM

THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT
I did not know the SSA carried. I did the math using the price I pay for ammo, and the difference between 357 Sig and 9mm for 174,000 rounds is about $12,000. I know it all addes up, but $12,000 isn't that much considering the entirety of government waste. Also, the story talks about hollow points and does not show a single hollow point.

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/social-security-administration-puts-out-bid-for/vdTzn/

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Posted: 8/21/2012 2:54:26 PM
The SSA, just like the postal service, the NSA, and tons of other Federal Civilian divisions, they all have special agents to that are sworn law enforcement. Nothing strange about that. They are only alloting around 1200-1500 rounds of ammo per officer per year, and that seems fair for training, qualifying, and range practice.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 3:52:33 PM
Education
Transportation
Veterans Administration
Housing and Urban Development
Health and Human Services
NASA (vs just NSA)
EPA

...to name a few.

All have armed Special Agents in their Office of Inspector General.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 3:52:41 PM
Nothing seems strange about that? How many federal "sworn law enforcement officers" does a county need?
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and you can burn the whole state down as far as Im concerned. Kalifornia aint got Shit on The Great State of Georgia.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 3:57:33 PM
Tens of thousands. Think about it, if there is postal fraud, they use postal inspectors at first to figure out what happened. They are sworn in LEO duties to investigate mail crime. No sense in using local LEOs to inquire into postal matters as it would tie up valuable resources. The FBI doesn't get involved in postal matters unless something dangerous if found.

Most Federal agencies are seperate entities and have separate budgets. So they have their own small law enforcement wing that investigates and deals with thier own criminal inquiries,etc.

If I were you, I would much, much, more concerned about all the military and national guard flying drones, spy blimps, and running "exercises" in the US as we speak for "testing and training" purposes... That is uncalled for and shouldn't be allowed. Let them go fly their drones and run their exercises in Mexico or Gitmo.

Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
Nothing seems strange about that? How many federal "sworn law enforcement officers" does a county need?


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Posted: 8/21/2012 4:11:02 PM
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
Nothing seems strange about that? How many federal "sworn law enforcement officers" does a county need?


County? Probably 0.

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Posted: 8/21/2012 6:03:57 PM
Originally Posted By Suppo:
Education
Transportation
Veterans Administration
Housing and Urban Development
Health and Human Services
NASA (vs just NSA)
EPA

...to name a few.

All have armed Special Agents in their Office of Inspector General.


I did not know this and would not have guessed some of these agencies had LEO divisions. I would figure the ATF, FBI, Secret Service, ICE, etc. would handle investigations for them.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 6:09:47 PM
Originally Posted By gtengineer02:
Originally Posted By Suppo:
Education
Transportation
Veterans Administration
Housing and Urban Development
Health and Human Services
NASA (vs just NSA)
EPA

...to name a few.

All have armed Special Agents in their Office of Inspector General.


I did not know this and would not have guessed some of these agencies had LEO divisions. I would figure the ATF, FBI, Secret Service, ICE, etc. would handle investigations for them.


Remember also that to be efficient (at least somewhat) in investigation, it is helpful for the investigator(s) to have knowledge of rules, regulations, customs, organizational structure, responsibilities, etc etc etc of the government organization in question.

I am all about waste reduction in government, and I have to be honest and say that this is probably a less wasteful way to go about it. Certainly not more so. Otherwise, you would have to have ATF/FBI/etc be well versed in all areas of government, otherwise they'll likely spend their first few months on the case just trying to learn the basics of something someone made LEO from within, who basically lives there anyway, would know day 1 and then some.
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Posted: 8/21/2012 7:07:53 PM
Originally Posted By coastal_shredder:
Originally Posted By gtengineer02:
Originally Posted By Suppo:
Education
Transportation
Veterans Administration
Housing and Urban Development
Health and Human Services
NASA (vs just NSA)
EPA

...to name a few.

All have armed Special Agents in their Office of Inspector General.


I did not know this and would not have guessed some of these agencies had LEO divisions. I would figure the ATF, FBI, Secret Service, ICE, etc. would handle investigations for them.


Remember also that to be efficient (at least somewhat) in investigation, it is helpful for the investigator(s) to have knowledge of rules, regulations, customs, organizational structure, responsibilities, etc etc etc of the government organization in question.

I am all about waste reduction in government, and I have to be honest and say that this is probably a less wasteful way to go about it. Certainly not more so. Otherwise, you would have to have ATF/FBI/etc be well versed in all areas of government, otherwise they'll likely spend their first few months on the case just trying to learn the basics of something someone made LEO from within, who basically lives there anyway, would know day 1 and then some.


Point well made.

IRS Special Agents must have an accounting background, for example. Other agencies may not have such a specific requirement, but do show an interest in people with such education and experience.

gtengineer02,

There is so much fraud involved with federal programs, that it may be best that these lesser-known agencies go after them. In other words, will the FBI necessarily choose to investigate Pell grant fraud over a drug case? An asphalt highway construction contract case over some other "cool" case?

Although not necessarily front page news, these lesser-known agencies do recover a LOT of taxpayer money from fraud cases, or even PREVENT more from being taken.
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