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Posted: 11/19/2015 4:34:43 PM EDT
I just moved to a different county within NC and am in the process of getting my new address on my DL. I have a couple PPP from my previous county that I lived in. Can I still use them since they wont match the address on my new DL?
Link Posted: 11/21/2015 5:07:07 PM EDT
[#1]
dont all answer at once.......

 
Link Posted: 11/21/2015 5:26:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Who said it has to match the address on your DL?
Link Posted: 11/21/2015 6:29:16 PM EDT
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Who said it has to match the address on your DL?
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no one yet but before I have gun shipped to my FFL and try to pick it up, I figured I would ask the question..


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Link Posted: 11/21/2015 8:22:27 PM EDT
[#4]
I would just ask the FFL first.  I have never cross-checked the addresses on ID's with PPP's or CHP.  Your CHP does require you to notify the issuing county of a change of address, but that move does not invalidate the CHP or PPP that I am aware of.  Again, your FFL will decide.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:14:07 PM EDT
[#5]
Don't know if it is too late to chime in. I recently went through this when I moved.

I'll have to search for it all when I get home because screw using a phone to search.

The PPP are good for 5 years from date of issuance or until you change your address.
Link Posted: 12/7/2015 6:23:12 AM EDT
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Slightly over 2 years ago I moved from Yadkin county NC to Randolph county NC.  I also had a federal C&R license. Per C&R rules I notified the Randolph county sheriff via mail that I had moved into his jurisdiction.  At the bottom of my letter I mentioned I would be in to renew my NC CHP when it expired. I got a phone call from a female deputy Sgt (in charge of permits) who was NOT very nice.  She said I had broken the law and that she was thinking about having my permit canceled.  At first I laughed out loud thinking she was joking. I forget how long she said I had to transfer my CHP but I know I had been living in Randolph over 90 days.  She made me drive Back to yadkin county, which was about a 2 hr drive one way, to get a computer generated letter that I had a clean record (aka never having any negative dealings with the Yadkin county sheriff.  ALSO note the Randolph county deputy was not happy that I said I had another CHP from another state (Washington) and did not need a NC permit if I wanted to carry.

The Yadkin county sheriff dept would not just print out the letter while I waited. Nor would they mail me the letter even if I provided a self address stamped envelope.  Took several weeks (maybe even a month or 2) but Yadkin county Sheriff dept phoned me to say I could come back in to pick up the letter in person.  I think all they did was update my personal info in the state computer system.  I am suppose to carry my copy of the letter along with my old but current CHP IF I carry a concealed weapon. I remember I actually had to made 3 round trips to Yadkin county about this but can't remember why.  My feeling is both sheriff depts want to inconvenience me as much as possible.  I can only assume THEY want me to know THEY are my masters and I need to remember that!  

The sheriff of Yadkin county at the time was a retired deputy from Forsyth county who was appointed to the position.  He changed everything he could about getting a CHP in Yadkin county (asked 6 pages of questions instead of the 20 questions that was on my original application).  He has since been reelected in Yadkin.  I never met the sheriff but a retired deputy from yadkin that has personally known him for many years told me.  If a small building (about the size of a closet) was on fire (and it had only one door) the sheriff would die in the fire before he could make a decision to leave the bldg.

Concerning the Randolph county female deputy in charge of permits. She said she did not have to help correct this matter but she would.

Needless to say I was not impressed by her public service attitude. It appears the Sheriff here has no problem with her representing him to the public she deals with.  As far as I know she is still in charge of permits here in Randolph county. My old permit is good until Sept 2016.  And since I seldom carry a handgun anymore, I may not bother to renew it.
Link Posted: 12/7/2015 4:22:14 PM EDT
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Slightly over 2 years ago I moved from Yadkin county NC to Randolph county NC.  I also had a federal C&R license. Per C&R rules I notified the Randolph county sheriff via mail that I had moved into his jurisdiction.  At the bottom of my letter I mentioned I would be in to renew my NC CHP when it expired. I got a phone call from a female deputy Sgt (in charge of permits) who was NOT very nice.  She said I had broken the law and that she was thinking about having my permit canceled.  At first I laughed out loud thinking she was joking. I forget how long she said I had to transfer my CHP but I know I had been living in Randolph over 90 days.  She made me drive Back to yadkin county, which was about a 2 hr drive one way, to get a computer generated letter that I had a clean record (aka never having any negative dealings with the Yadkin county sheriff.  ALSO note the Randolph county deputy was not happy that I said I had another CHP from another state (Washington) and did not need a NC permit if I wanted to carry.

The Yadkin county sheriff dept would not just print out the letter while I waited. Nor would they mail me the letter even if I provided a self address stamped envelope.  Took several weeks (maybe even a month or 2) but Yadkin county Sheriff dept phoned me to say I could come back in to pick up the letter in person.  I think all they did was update my personal info in the state computer system.  I am suppose to carry my copy of the letter along with my old but current CHP IF I carry a concealed weapon. I remember I actually had to made 3 round trips to Yadkin county about this but can't remember why.  My feeling is both sheriff depts want to inconvenience me as much as possible.  I can only assume THEY want me to know THEY are my masters and I need to remember that!  

The sheriff of Yadkin county at the time was a retired deputy from Forsyth county who was appointed to the position.  He changed everything he could about getting a CHP in Yadkin county (asked 6 pages of questions instead of the 20 questions that was on my original application).  He has since been reelected in Yadkin.  I never met the sheriff but a retired deputy from yadkin that has personally known him for many years told me.  If a small building (about the size of a closet) was on fire (and it had only one door) the sheriff would die in the fire before he could make a decision to leave the bldg.

Concerning the Randolph county female deputy in charge of permits. She said she did not have to help correct this matter but she would.

Needless to say I was not impressed by her public service attitude. It appears the Sheriff here has no problem with her representing him to the public she deals with.  As far as I know she is still in charge of permits here in Randolph county. My old permit is good until Sept 2016.  And since I seldom carry a handgun anymore, I may not bother to renew it.
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It's pretty straight forward.for the Concealed Handgun Permit

North Carolina Statute 14-415.11.  Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.

(d)       A person who is issued a permit shall notify the sheriff who issued the permit of any change in the person's permanent address within 30 days after the change of address.

The issuing sheriff is the one who keeps CHP records and sends out renewal notices and will transfer the info to the sheriff of the new county so the original can delete you from their records and the new county can add you for the renewal notice..
Link Posted: 12/7/2015 4:30:34 PM EDT
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As to the validity of the Pistol Purchase Permit once you change counties it appears that it is no longer valid.

14-402.  Sale of certain weapons without permit forbidden.


(a)        It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other place within or without the State any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase.

That's why your DL and PPP need to match so it is verifiable that you got your permit from the county where you reside.  It's the sellers obligation to verify this as per statute.
Link Posted: 12/7/2015 8:34:58 PM EDT
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As to the validity of the Pistol Purchase Permit once you change counties it appears that it is no longer valid.

14-402.  Sale of certain weapons without permit forbidden.


(a)        It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other place within or without the State any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase.

That's why your DL and PPP need to match so it is verifiable that you got your permit from the county where you reside.  It's the sellers obligation to verify this as per statute.
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I'm not so sure about that since 14-404 lets sheriffs issue to out of county people.

14-404.  Issuance or refusal of permit; appeal from refusal; grounds for refusal; sheriff's fee.

(a)        Upon application, the sheriff shall issue the permit to a resident of that county, unless the purpose of the permit is for collecting, in which case a sheriff can issue a permit to a nonresident, when the sheriff has done all of the following:

(1)        Verified, before the issuance of a permit, by a criminal history background investigation that it is not a violation of State or federal law for the applicant to purchase, transfer, receive, or possess a handgun. The sheriff shall determine the criminal and background history of any applicant by accessing computerized criminal history records as maintained by the State Bureau of Investigation and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, by conducting a national criminal history records check, by conducting a check through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and by conducting a criminal history check through the Administrative Office of the Courts.

(2)        Fully satisfied himself or herself by affidavits, oral evidence, or otherwise, as to the good moral character of the applicant.

(3)        Fully satisfied himself or herself that the applicant desires the possession of the weapon mentioned for (i) the protection of the home, business, person, family or property, (ii) target shooting, (iii) collecting, or (iv) hunting.

(b)        If the sheriff is not fully satisfied, the sheriff may, for good cause shown, decline to issue the permit and shall provide to the applicant within seven days of the refusal a written statement of the reason(s) for the refusal. The statement shall cite the specific facts upon which the sheriff concluded that the applicant was not qualified for the issuance of a permit and list, by statute number, the applicable law upon which the denial is based. An appeal from the refusal shall lie by way of petition to the chief judge of the district court for the district in which the application was filed. The determination by the court, on appeal, shall be upon the facts, the law, and the reasonableness of the sheriff's refusal, and shall be final.

(b1)      The sheriff shall keep a list of all permit denials, with the specific reasons for the denials noted. The list shall not include any information that would identify the applicant whose application was denied. The list, as described in this subsection, shall be a public record, and the sheriff shall make the list available upon request to any member of the public. The list shall be organized by the quarters of the year, showing the number of denials and the reasons in each three-month period, and the list shall only be released for past, completed quarters.

(c)        A permit may not be issued to the following persons:

(1)        One who is under an indictment or information for or has been convicted in any state, or in any court of the United States, of a felony (other than an offense pertaining to antitrust violations, unfair trade practices, or restraints of trade). However, a person who has been convicted of a felony in a court of any state or in a court of the United States and (i) who is later pardoned, or (ii) whose firearms rights have been restored pursuant to G.S. 14-415.4, may obtain a permit, if the purchase or receipt of a pistol permitted in this Article does not violate a condition of the pardon or restoration of firearms rights.

(2)        One who is a fugitive from justice.

(3)        One who is an unlawful user of or addicted to marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug (as defined in 21 U.S.C. § 802).

(4)        One who has been adjudicated mentally incompetent or has been committed to any mental institution.

(5)        One who is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States.

(6)        One who has been discharged from the Armed Forces of the United States under dishonorable conditions.

(7)        One who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship.

(8)        One who is subject to a court order that:

a.         Was issued after a hearing of which the person received actual notice, and at which the person had an opportunity to participate;

b.         Restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of the person or child of the intimate partner of the person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child; and

c.         Includes a finding that the person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of the intimate partner or child; or by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury.

(c1)      Excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays, after receiving notice of any of the judicial findings, court orders, or other factual matters, relevant to any of the disqualifying conditions specified in subsection (c) of this section, the clerk of superior court shall determine which information can practicably be transmitted to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) and shall transmit that information to NICS within 48 hours of that determination. The information shall include a reference to the relevant statutory provision of G.S. 14-404 that precludes the issuance of a permit.

(d)       Nothing in this Article shall apply to officers authorized by law to carry firearms if the officers identify themselves to the vendor or donor as being officers authorized by law to carry firearms and provide any of the following:

(1)        A letter signed by the officer's supervisor or superior officer stating that the officer is authorized by law to carry a firearm.

(2)        A current photographic identification card issued by the officer's employer.

(3)        A current photographic identification card issued by a State agency that identifies the individual as a law enforcement officer certified by the State of North Carolina.

(4)        A current identification card issued by the officer's employer and another form of current photographic identification.

(e)        The sheriff shall charge for the sheriff's services upon receipt of an application a fee of five dollars ($5.00) for each permit requested. There shall be no limit as to the number or frequency of permit applications and no other costs or fees other than provided in this subsection shall be charged for the permit, including, but not limited to, any costs for investigation, processing, or medical background checks by the sheriff or others providing records to the sheriff.

(f)        Each applicant for a license or permit shall be informed by the sheriff within 14 days of the date of the application whether the license or permit will be granted or denied and, if granted, the license or permit shall be immediately issued to the applicant.

(g)        An applicant shall not be ineligible to receive a permit under subdivision (c)(4) of this section because of involuntary commitment to mental health services if the individual's rights have been restored under G.S. 122C-54.1.

(h)        The sheriff shall revoke any permit upon the occurrence of any event or condition subsequent to the issuance of the permit, or the applicant's subsequent inability to meet a requirement under this Article, which would have resulted in a denial of the application submitted to obtain the permit if the event, condition, or the applicant's current inability to meet a statutory requirement had existed at the time of the application and prior to the issuance of the permit. The following procedures apply to a revocation:

(1)        The sheriff shall provide written notice to the permittee, pursuant to the provisions of G.S. 1A-1, Rule 4(j), that the permit is revoked upon the service of the notice. The notice shall provide the permittee with information on the process to appeal the revocation.

(2)        Upon receipt of the written notice of revocation, the permittee shall surrender the permit to the sheriff. Any law enforcement officer serving the notice is authorized to take immediate possession of the permit from the permittee. If the notice is served by means other than by a law enforcement officer, the permittee shall surrender the permit to the sheriff no later than 48 hours after service of the notice.

(3)        The sheriff shall insure that the list of permits which have been revoked is immediately updated so that any potential transferor calling to check the validity of the permit will be informed of the revocation.

(4)        A permittee may appeal the revocation of a permit pursuant to this subsection by petitioning a district court judge of the district in which the permittee resides.

(5)        Any person who willfully fails to surrender a permit upon notice of revocation shall be guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.  (1919, c. 197, s. 3; C.S., s. 5108; 1959, c. 1073, s. 2; 1969, c. 73; 1981 (Reg. Sess., 1982), c. 1395, s. 1; 1987, c. 518, s. 1; 1995, c. 487, s. 2; 2006-39, s. 1; 2006-264, s. 4; 2008-210, s. 3(a); 2009-570, s. 7; 2010-108, s. 4; 2011-2, s. 1; 2011-56, s. 2; 2011-183, s. 13; 2011-268, s. 10; 2013-369, s. 17.2(a); 2013-389, s. 2; 2014-115, s. 23.5(a).)

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