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Posted: 9/21/2015 9:04:20 AM EDT
I'm a relatively new shooter, bought my first firearm 2 years ago, and my 29 yr old son has never shot is coming along w/ me.

We're going to be in Wright City weekend after next and I'd like some guidance.  

Up to now I've only practice on my own and with friends.  

I have a 10/22, a couple of Ruger American Rimfires [the second one threaded, but no can yet], an Ruger American 30-06 with a Leupold scope and a couple of AR-15s, all mostly stock.  Have additional slings, sights and scopes

Have enough ammo to use any of them.

Also bought a set of tech sights and GI military sling from the Appleseed store to put on one of the .22s.  

What do you recommend I have my son shoot?  What do you recommend I shoot?  How should they be configured?  

What other advice do you have for us?  

Thanks in advance.  

I'm looking forward to this event and doing so with my son.
Link Posted: 9/21/2015 9:19:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/21/2015 10:08:51 PM EDT
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Both of you should shoot 10/22's if possible. If you only have one then the AR in .22. .223 second choice.

I've shot 3 Appleseeds at Wright City. Great program. You will learn a lot and have a lot of fun.

Don't forget a shooting mat of some  sort. Sling (you can buy them off the Appleseed site). As many mags as you can bring.
Link Posted: 9/22/2015 6:13:56 AM EDT
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Definitely the 10/22. If you need a second, they're on sale at Bud's for $189.

Running a bolt gun for an Appleseed is a hell of a lot of fun, but frustrating for new/inexperienced shooters. I always used mine (Savage MkII) with excellent results. Had a shooter come in to one all kinds of cocky and get his patch with a tarted-up 10/22 right off the bat, so I stuck him on the MkII for a few runs. He settled down to learn after that. Same shoot had a guy using a Mosin 91/30 for most of the weekend, 'til he shot the action screw loose. He switched to a 91/44 until we made him move thirty feet away from everyone else... and then set his handguard on fire with a rapid AQT. It was a great weekend.
Link Posted: 9/23/2015 8:19:34 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies,

darn the luck but I did go ahead and buy another 10/22.  Figure I can give it to my son as a gift.  Problem is, he is a resident of the socialist state of ILL, he'll have to work out the legality of it.  

guess I need to buy another sling and sight set for it as well.  

Anyone else from HTF going to be at this event?
Link Posted: 9/24/2015 10:33:14 PM EDT
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I did one this summer - enjoyed it very much. I used a Marlin 795 which worked quite well. I love 10/22s, but don't own one and wanted to get into a LTR or two on the cheap.

As others have said:

1. Install, shake out, and dial-in your sights @ 25m ahead well ahead of the day. They do sight-ins, but time is limited.
2. Practice getting into positions and stretch starting now.
3. Practice reloads in these positions, or any position. Just get a good reload cadence developed.
4. If you can, grab a good shooting mat from Midway or the like. Otherwise anything will do, but don't use a light, foam, camping mat like I did.
5. Snacks, lunch, and water, plenty of both. You'll be surprised at the workout.
6. If you shoot .22s, shooting jacket isn't necessary, but I liked long sleeves for dealing with the sling on and off all damn day x2.
7. Sight adjustment tool and flat head screwdriver. The tool takes the pain out of adjustments, and the flat head is in case the sight works loose over the weekend.
8. Cleaning kit.
9. Bug kit.
10. Band-aids.
11. More ammo than they recommend, JIC. I ended up shooting probably 700rnds at mine. It just depends on how many folks are there. If there aren't many, the instructors can get a lot of shot strings worked in to the weekend.
12. Relax! Have fun! That's why you are there.

Link Posted: 11/27/2015 4:37:31 PM EDT
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While I admire the challenge of a bolt rifle, I highly recommend using a semi-auto rifle.  The 10/22 will serve you well especially with the sling and tech sights.

If you were closer to me in KC I'd let you borrow my LTR 10/22.  It's a guaranteed patch earner.  

I would take this as a sign that you should buy another rifle.  

ETA: Advice. Practice the sitting and prone positions at home for a couple weeks prior to the event.  Old fat guys like me don't bend that easily on command.  Also take shooting mats or ~4x6' pieces of carpet to lay on, and a tarp or cut-open trash bag for under the mat to keep any ground moisture from soaking upward.  Sunscreen, bug spray, water, snacks, allergy meds, etc.
 
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Eric,

What is your set up that makes it so good?   I'd like to duplicate it.  

Thanks,

Link Posted: 11/27/2015 5:06:08 PM EDT
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Firc, tech sights and a good nylon gi sling.  Also I belive he touched up the trigger some

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Link Posted: 11/27/2015 6:54:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2015 10:56:50 PM EDT
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^

Wow, beautiful piece of art!
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 11:30:21 PM EDT
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ya that also wasn't the rifle it I was thinking it was
Link Posted: 11/28/2015 12:57:12 AM EDT
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Basically it is a match rifle. About the only stock part is the receiver.

It has Bentz match-chambered barrel that LOVES Federal AutoMatch ammo shooting it into ~3/8" groups at 50yds. It shots even better with Wolf Match Target, but the AutoMatch is good and cheap enough for shooting a lot.  Every .22lr gun is different and may like a completely different ammo. The only way to know what a gun really likes is to try as many different kinds of ammo as possible.  This used to be a lot cheaper and easier to do back when .22 ammo was plentiful.

It has a tuned trigger (from someone on RimFireCentral.com) with extended mag release, tuned bolt (again, from RFC) with radiused bottom rear for smoother cycling and head space adjusted tighter, Tech Sights, adult proportioned Ruger Deluxe Sporter stock with the barrel channel enlarged for the match barrel, some PacSkin on the comb so a sweaty face won't slide around on the stock as easily, and good sling swivels installed F&R for a GI cotton web sling.

I try not to think about what the total expenditures were but it was certainly north of $600 by a bit.  It doesn't sting quite as much when you buy each piece separately.  

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=43780
 
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While I admire the challenge of a bolt rifle, I highly recommend using a semi-auto rifle.  The 10/22 will serve you well especially with the sling and tech sights.

If you were closer to me in KC I'd let you borrow my LTR 10/22.  It's a guaranteed patch earner.  

I would take this as a sign that you should buy another rifle.  

ETA: Advice. Practice the sitting and prone positions at home for a couple weeks prior to the event.  Old fat guys like me don't bend that easily on command.  Also take shooting mats or ~4x6' pieces of carpet to lay on, and a tarp or cut-open trash bag for under the mat to keep any ground moisture from soaking upward.  Sunscreen, bug spray, water, snacks, allergy meds, etc.
 


Eric,

What is your set up that makes it so good?   I'd like to duplicate it.  

Thanks,

Basically it is a match rifle. About the only stock part is the receiver.

It has Bentz match-chambered barrel that LOVES Federal AutoMatch ammo shooting it into ~3/8" groups at 50yds. It shots even better with Wolf Match Target, but the AutoMatch is good and cheap enough for shooting a lot.  Every .22lr gun is different and may like a completely different ammo. The only way to know what a gun really likes is to try as many different kinds of ammo as possible.  This used to be a lot cheaper and easier to do back when .22 ammo was plentiful.

It has a tuned trigger (from someone on RimFireCentral.com) with extended mag release, tuned bolt (again, from RFC) with radiused bottom rear for smoother cycling and head space adjusted tighter, Tech Sights, adult proportioned Ruger Deluxe Sporter stock with the barrel channel enlarged for the match barrel, some PacSkin on the comb so a sweaty face won't slide around on the stock as easily, and good sling swivels installed F&R for a GI cotton web sling.

I try not to think about what the total expenditures were but it was certainly north of $600 by a bit.  It doesn't sting quite as much when you buy each piece separately.  

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=43780
 



Link Posted: 11/28/2015 5:00:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/28/2015 8:50:33 PM EDT
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Thanks guys.  On Day 2 I used a different 10/22 just for something different.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=82926

16" threaded Hi-Desertdog.com barrel with match chamber wearing a .22 suppressor and shooting slower, quieter, and slightly less accurate (~1/2" @ 50yds) CCI Standard Velocity ammo, 3-9x scope set on 3x, Volquartsen trigger group, tuned bolt, Hogue stock and the cotton GI sling.  I thought the scope would be easier to shoot with but it actually was a bit harder to initially acquire the target after quickly getting into each shooting position. Each subsequent shot was however easier due to the magnification but my overall scores weren't any better than Day 1 with iron sights.

Being between two AR15s went a little like this:  BOOM, poof, BOOM.  BOOM, poof, BOOM.  

OH, and here's another suggestion if you're situated between shooters whose guns spit hot brass.  Long pants.  On a warm day a just-fired .223 case that lands on and sticks to your bare sweaty calf will test your concentration skills while shooting.  

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Got that, I was between 2 folks shooting ARs.  

Eric, if you had a choice would you choose a scope or iron sights?

Thanks,


Link Posted: 11/29/2015 7:28:29 PM EDT
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