Now when they catch them here doing something they (The PD ) pick'em up, take'em to the station for a bit, do whatever they do, then drop them off...



somewhere...
Supposedly, it costs money if our PD arrests someone for something then transfers them to County/Clayton for holding, so short of Murder or a whole Semi-truck load of Crack, they get a pass...
I know a girl who is very plugged into what goes on around here...  Some of her family are on our Village Board and some are on the neighboring neighborhood board, so she gets tons of inside info on the goings on...
A few weeks ago, right in the middle of the day, morning actually, she saw a guy pull a gun on another guy and rob him.  



Both the Guy robbed and her called the PD...  Cops came arrested the guy, I'm guessing took his gun, took him to the station for a bit and he was back out on the street a few hours later...
Another guy, they picked up on Diamond for Domestic Assault, (Beating up his Old lady) a few hours later, they dropped him off at a park right within view of my friends business...
Then we have a corner Diamond and Chambers that is really notorious for people standing out there selling drugs as well as prostitution...
After numerous complaints and calls, my friend sent St. Louis County's ""Drug Task Force" an email expressing her frustration and here was their response....
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"We are more than aware of the problems at this intersection and
frequent this area as much as we possibly can.



Numerous arrests have
been made at this location already, but unless we can figure out
               
               
                 a way to charge them federally, they go to jail, post
bond, get out and go right back to it.  That is an issue with the court
system, not the police.  We will continue to monitor this intersection
and make arrests whenever possible.  If we can figure out a way to
federally prosecute them, we will, but there are alot of criteria that
need to be met in order to make federal charges stick and we have not
been able to achieve those standards yet, but it is not for lack of
trying.






Thank you,






Name Removed
Intelligence Analyst
Bureau of Drug Enforcement
St. Louis County Police Department"
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These guys know this and will continue to do dirt...
Its like the Good guys have just thrown up their hands and given up and the bad guys have won and they know it....
ETA *** I know I need to move, but its not as easy as saying, I'm out...  I am working on it, but I have a lot of family and friends here, My house is worth less than I owe on it, where I want to move too, there are no Jobs...
 

Your friend in the Drug Unit should probably council you on listing the name of the analyst.  I know I would have.

Yes nothing like outing the person giving out the information.

Sounds like Randolph...

eeke and I were on Patrol and observe a beat up late seventies Chevy pickup driving by with no plates.

So we light them up and I walk up to the driver and ask for his License, Registration, and Proof of Insurance

He responds he doesn't have any of that on him.

Soooooo, I take his info down and ask the passenger for his I.D.   SURPRISE! He doesn't have any, so I take his info down

I call dispatch, they BOTH come back with a P&P hit. They are BOTH on Parole for trafficking.

I look at eeke and say "What do think the odds are that we will find shit in the truck"?

So we walk up and inform them we are going to do a search, of course they state we won't find ANYTHING.

Well not finding anything turned into Crack, Heroin, & Meth.

We hook them up and transport them to Clay County Hilton.

Next day we get a call from our Slimeball Prosecutor, he says to "Cut them loose" WTF!!!

His response was "We don't get any money off of this and we have to pay County to house them"

Thankfully we had "Plan B" which was their Parole Officer.

Some towns could care less about the Law, only how much fucking revenue you can generate.

Gee, wonder why a town of 52 had TEN Officers?

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch...
Missouri has its first official speed trap.

Randolph, Mo., a tiny suburb of Kansas City, is the first Missouri municipality to be found in violation of the state's so-called speed trap law, state auditor Susan Montee's office announced this morning.

The speed trap law -- also known as the Macks Creek law, named for the renowned mid-Missouri town that in the early 1990s inspired lawmakers to tackle the subject of how many traffic tickets is too many -- has been on on the state's books for 15 years. But the law never had been applied. Until now.

The state audit found Randolph relied too heavily on certain traffic fines for its operating revenues. State law says towns and cities can not generate more than 35 percent of total operating revenues from traffic fines and court costs collected on state and federal roads.

In Randolph, those traffic fines and court costs accounted for between 75 percent and 83 percent of the town's $270,043 annual revenues last year, according to the audit.

Randolph has long been among the top-ticketing towns in Missouri. It has fewer than 50 residents, but sees heavy flows of traffic from two casinos sitting just outside town limits, plus the Oceans of Fun water park a block beyond its boundary.

A 2009 Post-Dispatch investigation found that Randolph posted the state's highest rate for tickets-per-resident from 2004-2008, besting by 60 percent the No. 2 town, Foristell in St. Charles County.

Randolph police chief John Morris, head of what was then an agency with two full-time and eight part-time officers, was asked whether his town was a speed trap.

"Depends on what your definition of a speed trap is," Morris said. "If someone is going 15 mph over, then it's not a speed trap."

Despite the audit, the size of the problem in Randolph remained hidden from state investigators. Auditors were unable to pinpoint exactly how much Randolph collected in traffic fines in 2009 because the necessary records were not maintained -- and, in some cases, are not required to be kept by state law. So the audit notes only that Randolph "likely" collected between $39,575 and $53,878 too much.

The Post-Dispatch investigation highlighted loopholes in the state's speed trap law, including the problem of record-keeping and narrow definitions of which fines could be counted against the revenue cap.

Lawmakers for years had tried to lower the cap on traffic fine revenues from 45 percent to 35 percent. In the legislative session  that followed the articles, the change finally passed. A method for disbursing excess funds to school districts also was required.

But lawmakers left in language that stipulates only traffic fines for violations on state and federal highways count against the revenue cap. The problem with that, however, is that police agencies and municipal courts rarely -- if ever -- categorize fine collection by the type of roadway where the offense occurred.

This led to some guesswork on the part of state auditors. They turned to the state attorney general's Vehicle Stops Annual Report, which normally is used to review racial profiling rates, to get an idea of what was happening in Randolph. The town reported that 901 traffic citations were written last year and 1,079 stops occurred on state and federal highways. However, the data does not distinguish how many of those 901 citations were written on state and federal highways.

The auditors also selected 265 traffic tickets for closer inspection. Looking at the tickets, auditors found that 73 percent were for violations on state and federal highways, accounting for 75 percent of total fines and costs.

Randolph responded to the auditor's findings by asking its city attorney to calculate precisely the amount of excess traffic fines. The city court also said it would use new software to monitor traffic cases for violations of the state's speed trap law.

The auditor's focus on tiny Randolph happened almost by accident, an auditor's office spokesperson said. State auditors were examining the books of the Kansas City school district when they had some unexpected down time and decided to look into the neighboring suburb.




901 tickets issued ? Hell, I bet eeke wrote that many by himself, the Racial Profiling Sheets were stacked in a shower and sometimes not even filled out.

The person I got this from was not in any unit or any LE Agency...  I did not mean to imply that, if that's how it was taken...



To be clear for everyone, The letter posted above was the response from a Intelligence Analyst with the STCPD's, Bureau of Drug Enforcement, to a Citizen who has made repeated calls and written in about the Drug and Crime situations in the neighborhood...
I removed it, but not sure why it hurts...



Its a sad state...  The criminals have pretty much won...  Sadly, our PD is really just for traffic stops and writing tickets if my Trash cans are down too long...  



Let me also be clear, I don't blame the PD I blame our legal system..  



I'm sure they (our PD and others) get tired or risking their lives every day and arresting these criminals only too see them on the streets doing the same thing, the same week or even same day...  Then when one of these ass hates pulls a weapon or acts like it and gets shot, every mother fucker in the hood with a Trac-Phone is leaning out their window to be a Youtube Film maker and say the officer ""Ain't have to kill'em like dat"...  Then give COMPLETELY false witness of what happened, only to be proven later, time and time again...   And the Media, quick to fan the flames and pour on any fuel they can...  Let an innocent person get shot, house or store robbed, car stole, aint nobody see shit....



Most people think its OK though because its in areas like NORCO...  But, its shocking how fast the creep occurs...  I've lived in my neighborhood for 41 years and always heard the ""Its getting bad there" about it, but it was never like this....  I looked at areas like Castle Point, East St. Louis, Kinlock, Baden, etc.. etc... and thought HOLY Crap shits F'ed up there...  My neighborhood is bad, but it'll never get that bad...  Now, I see that was BS I was just kidding myself or in denial...  It has changed so much in under 5 years, I never would have believed it...



Now, while my areas gets worse, the shit is spreading South and West of here...  I hear more and more reports or crimes in Soco and on the other side of the Blanchette Bridge in "Gods Country"...



Sorry for the Rant, but it just pisses me off, that we as citizens are helpless in our neighborhoods...  



Nothing we do seems to work and our govt continuously wants to take away our rights to protect ourselves...  
 

God that is so Frustrating to hear that, I could not imagine dealing with it...  



We may not agree on everything, but you have my respect and I hope you and other good officers stay safe...  Its flippin crazy, these days...



 

Having gone to Riverview HS (now, 20 years ago) and lived in Dellwood from Day One to about 30 years of age, I can certainly agree that the surrounding neighborhoods have definitely suffered and dramatically in the last 5-10 years.

My father still lives in Dellwood, about a mile of so from Ferguson "Ground Zero", and thankfully, the neighborhood still has a number of decent citizens on which he and I can depend on.

Now that I am in West County, I have lost touch of the happenings in the old neighborhood so I tend to put the hardware close by when I drive through not knowing what to expect.  I find myself doing the same even in Florissant, Hazelwood etc.  Anywhere east of West Florissant, I try to avoid if at all possible.  I used to visit Sioux Passage for an afternoon run or go fishing/mountain biking near Spanish Lake.  Not anymore.  I try to minimize my risks when possible and visiting those areas, even though in better parts of NoCo, are not in the best interests of minimizing those risks.

I can certainly sympathize with people trying to leave the area.  It wasn't great when I lived there but it's certainly has not improved.

That whole damn area is a shithole.
Glad I am out. I wish they could just wall it off and let the locals have at it. Given 6 moths or so I am sure the population would be down to 2 or 3 survivors.

Same area from a few years back...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Gray

Stay safe Brother. The idiots are protesting up your way. Hope you can get your move figured out.

It'd be a shame if your house got torched because of rioting and racial strife and all when that starts back up next week.  I mean your insurance would basically buy you out and you'd be forced to move.  That would be terrible.

LOL, I see what you did there...  :)



 

Since I just woke up after spending the evening protecting infrastructure from the disenfranchised....

And since we are all upset over the lack of prosecution, try reading the recently signed Senate Bill 5.  

People here will love it, until they start realizing the implications.

Diamond and Chambers for hookers... Thanks!

you are welcome to them

 

Right, looks like it limits what the courts can do to impose any fine or jail time...



So whoever votes for this, how to they expect courts and LE to enforce any laws??



 

Id rather try the Heroin or whatever else they are slanging...



 

Voted.  Word here is voted.  Law is in effect last full week of August.

 

- Developed in response to Ferguson Commission findings.  Designed to take the money out of the offense spectrum, aka profiteering.  Sounds good, yes?


- No more Failure to Appear for Minor Traffic offenses.  Definition of "Minor"  18mph or less over speed limit, driving while revoked, suspended.  (Who doesn't pay their fines?)


- Max penalty for minor traffic offenses is $300 including court fees



- Can't pay it?  Can't be held in jail.  Can't be force to pay a bond.  Must take into consideration annual wages, cannot take into consideration capital items (aka on food stamps? Consider it.  Driving Hummer while on food stamps?  Not up  for consideration).


- Must make every effort to use Community Service as compensation.  (most already do.  Its the repeat offenders that don't get it)


- If they don't pay?  Three options:  (1) State with holds it at the end of the year from state tax returns (ok), (2) You can use a collections agency (I thought we were trying to take the money mongering out of it?) or (3) just forget it.  


- Adjustment to Mack's Creek Law:  St. Louis County agencies - 12.5% cap.  Everywhere else in the state?  20%.  (Won't stand when challenged due to its selectivity instead of state wide, but doesn't effect my city since we take in less than 4% annually which places us in a "safe harbor" category.)


Police Department Accreditation:  St. Louis County agencies/Municipalities only - no where else in the state (Won't stand due to selectivity and failing to meet the requirements of the Handcock Amendment:  also doesn't matter to me because we were one of the first to become accredited over a decade ago so ...)


A great deal of high profile crimes were solved as the result of traffic stops.  I wonder how much of a cooling effect this will have?


Does this mean the Traffic Law institutes of Missouri will be out of business soon?