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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:42:14 PM EDT
Copied from my post in the Primary Arms section just to see what you guys thought. This will be on a 300 blk pistol.
(I assure you it will not be shouldered, I just have a really really long neck)
 I've been wanting to try a magnifier for a while but I have a few questions.... The AR in question has a burris fastfire in a Burris AR mount. Will a PA 6x in the Burris AR flip mount be the correct height? How well do magnifiers work with these small red dots? I'm assuming they magnify the target/view but NOT the dot?? Anybody toyed with this same setup? Pics? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:17:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm assuming they magnify the target/view but NOT the dot?? Consider just a 3x magnifier. The Vortex magnifiers get really good reviews and are still less than half the price of the EOTech and Aimpoint magnifiers. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:35:09 PM EDT
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Well that just sucks. I was hoping there was some sort of magic at play so the dot would remain 3moa. Sort of like not seeing the front sight in front of a scope.
IMHO An 18" dot at 100 yards isn't any better than the 3 moa without a magnifier. What if I added some magnets?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:38:09 PM EDT
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Your 3MOA dot will still be the same size relative to your target with or without the magnifier. But obviously it will be magnified when viewed through a magnifier. Target gets bigger but so does the dot.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:27:16 AM EDT
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I was wondering the same thing. This might sound dumb, but couldn't you mount a magnifier in front of a RDS to maintain a 3 moa dot and have magnification of the target?
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Posted: 1/30/2015 1:52:25 AM EDT
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I doubt there would be enough eye relief to be able to get a full view through the magnifier.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:33:02 AM EDT
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nvm just read your first sentence
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Posted: 1/30/2015 6:27:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering the same thing. This might sound dumb, but couldn't you mount a magnifier in front of a RDS to maintain a 3 moa dot and have magnification of the target? Consider checking out some of the variable low-powered scopes such as seen in this thread. Once you buy the red dot, the magnifier, and mounts for both, a variable power scope doesn't seem so expensive. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:13:38 AM EDT
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What if I added some magnets?
Throw it down the treadmill and the magnified dot will actually show up as one of them fancy Trijicon epchilons. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:35:37 AM EDT
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JT,
I have a 5x I'll let you try, I used to use it with my Eotech, I don't know how it will work with a FF lll. It's been a while, but I don't think it magnifies the dot 5X , I know back when my eyes were better I used it in 3gun matches shooting out to 500yds. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:55:47 AM EDT
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Thanks Matt! I might just take you up on that. It could possibly save me buying one & regretting it.
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:18:00 PM EDT
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Thanks Matt! I might just take you up on that. It could possibly save me buying one & regretting it. I put it back on today (5x) to check, (HOW do people get pics of the reticle through a optic??  )
Anyway, I think it will work for what your wanting to do- co-witness- It will with the Burris ARFlll mount About the dot size, the dot stays the same size in relation to the target, it's not like you are trying to shoot a 4MOA target with a (5X x 3moa dot =15moa dot) huge dot. Wish I could figure out how to get a pic 
What I was sighting at was the neighbors mailbox 200yds away, At 1X I can see the mail box fine , barely see the white lettering on it, center the dot on the faint white area. At 5X, I can put the dot on individual letters on the mail box. Hope that makes sense. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:25:59 PM EDT
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When mounted behind the scope, as I believe all magnifiers are designed to work due to their eye relief specs (just like a magnified scope), they will magnify the dot. A 2MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will present you a 12" dot at 100yds. A 4MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will = a 24" dot at 100yds. Consider just a 3x magnifier. The Vortex magnifiers get really good reviews and are still less than half the price of the EOTech and Aimpoint magnifiers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:[div style='padding: 10px; overflow: visible;']
I'm assuming they magnify the target/view but NOT the dot?? When mounted behind the scope, as I believe all magnifiers are designed to work due to their eye relief specs (just like a magnified scope), they will magnify the dot. A 2MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will present you a 12" dot at 100yds. A 4MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will = a 24" dot at 100yds. Consider just a 3x magnifier. The Vortex magnifiers get really good reviews and are still less than half the price of the EOTech and Aimpoint magnifiers. Completely wrong. Dot Moa stays exactly the same. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 9:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Completely wrong. Dot Moa stays exactly the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:[div style='padding: 10px; overflow: visible;'] I'm assuming they magnify the target/view but NOT the dot?? When mounted behind the scope, as I believe all magnifiers are designed to work due to their eye relief specs (just like a magnified scope), they will magnify the dot. A 2MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will present you a 12" dot at 100yds. A 4MOA dot with a 6x magnifier will = a 24" dot at 100yds. Consider just a 3x magnifier. The Vortex magnifiers get really good reviews and are still less than half the price of the EOTech and Aimpoint magnifiers. Completely wrong. Dot Moa stays exactly the same. The point was that, when mounted behind the dot optic, you cannot look through the magnifier and have the target be magnified but not the dot. |
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