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Posted: 1/22/2015 7:53:29 PM EDT
Any of you blue guys know if it was a converted open bolt?
I heard a quip on the radio on my way home calling it a "sub-machine gun".... You almost never hear of MG's being used in crime here in the Midwest so it piqued my interest. Preliminary interwebs search results are inconclusive. 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:06:08 PM EDT
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We know how dead on accurate the media is on identifying weapons....
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:52:45 PM EDT
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We know how dead on accurate the media is on identifying weapons.... http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Postings%20photos/55afe2abc6fcc277aba6c453d9538b0b.jpg Or dogs. 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:59:18 PM EDT
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On the radio this morning they said handgun with an "extended" magazine.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:05:53 PM EDT
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KMOX reported earlier that it was a TEC-9 "that has a reputation for being easily converted into a fully automatic pistol". Later in the day, Chief Sam Dotson was on, calling it a machine pistol several times.
 . It was never said whether is was full auto or not, but I'm leaning towards not. The city administration is not exactly friendly to the 2A and I'd venture a guess that if the TEC-9 was converted it'd be reported as such.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:14:42 PM EDT
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Gun used in the shooting:
"The INTRATEC 9mm was purchased in 2002 in DeSoto, Missouri, but the suspect, Isaac Holmes, was not the purchaser, according to a news release from the SLMPD." |
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Posted: 1/23/2015 12:40:01 AM EDT
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I hope that thing doesn't become the poster child for the "gun show loophole".
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Posted: 1/23/2015 4:35:45 AM EDT
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Gun used in the shooting: 
"The INTRATEC 9mm was purchased in 2002 in DeSoto, Missouri, but the suspect, Isaac Holmes, was not the purchaser, according to a news release from the SLMPD." That's a Tec-9. No question about it. I guess some dumb@ss was trying to kick it "old school". 
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Posted: 1/23/2015 11:20:46 AM EDT
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I used to have one of those, absolute POS.
I have never seen one with the short barrel and no heat shield like that. |
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Posted: 1/23/2015 1:03:29 PM EDT
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I used to have one of those, absolute POS. I have never seen one with the short barrel and no heat shield like that. I know absolutely nothing about those but looking at the angle of the muzzle in that picture, I was wondering if a hack saw got involved somewhere along the way. |
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Posted: 1/23/2015 1:10:42 PM EDT
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After seeing a better pic of the weapon, I retract my statement.
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Posted: 1/23/2015 1:14:22 PM EDT
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I kind of doubt it, the heat shield was part of the receiver and I don't see a crappy cut there, and the front sight would have been relocated as well. They were spot-welded on.
ETA: Found several online photos of the short-barrel version so I guess they were a thing. |
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Posted: 1/23/2015 4:05:55 PM EDT
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I know absolutely nothing about those but looking at the angle of the muzzle in that picture, I was wondering if a hack saw got involved somewhere along the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used to have one of those, absolute POS. I have never seen one with the short barrel and no heat shield like that. I know absolutely nothing about those but looking at the angle of the muzzle in that picture, I was wondering if a hack saw got involved somewhere along the way. Its a pistol, why would you bother? Take an inch off? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:29:32 AM EDT
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I kind of doubt it, the heat shield was part of the receiver and I don't see a crappy cut there, and the front sight would have been relocated as well. They were spot-welded on. ETA: Found several online photos of the short-barrel version so I guess they were a thing. That's the post ban version. Wasn't allowed to have a hand guard over the barrel and I think they cut the barrel off behind the threads and to keep the weight below the 50 ounce maximum. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:39:36 AM EDT
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Well that's rather boring then....
Where are all these evil MG's that you can buy at a gun show? |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 12:57:17 PM EDT
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Well that's rather boring then.... Where are all these evil MG's that you can buy at a gun show? Ice Cream Truck bra... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:22:42 PM EDT
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last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:39:18 PM EDT
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last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 2:48:17 PM EDT
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I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. that is what I heard the guy say and the video he had playing on the table showed a couple of rednecks blasting away through 1 with a rifle.... |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 6:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. You are such a LIAR!!! Those are not suppressors, they are waste CLP catchers. Any possible noise abatement is purely coincidental! (insert sarcasm icon here)
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Posted: 1/25/2015 2:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that is what I heard the guy say and the video he had playing on the table showed a couple of rednecks blasting away through 1 with a rifle.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. that is what I heard the guy say and the video he had playing on the table showed a couple of rednecks blasting away through 1 with a rifle.... |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 7:42:45 PM EDT
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Why y'all be hatin' on the solvent/patch trap adapters?
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last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. that is what I heard the guy say and the video he had playing on the table showed a couple of rednecks blasting away through 1 with a rifle....
hey the guy at the table said cheap suppressor and they are made to fire though, not I... but like I said, I went the other way when I saw it. I have too much invested in my legal cans |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:47:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hey the guy at the table said cheap suppressor and they are made to fire though, not I... but like I said, I went the other way when I saw it. I have too much invested in my legal cans Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: last gun show I went to there was a guy selling oil filter adapters as suppressors. had videos showing ppl shooting with them and kept telling ppl that were walking by to not believe the gun store bs and that they were legal to use as suppressors..... ya I walked away as fast as I could I can't believe BATF hasn't stepped in yet. Anyone else remember the adapters for attaching an empty two liter soda bottle, it didn't last long before BATF outlawed them. I don't believe they are CLEARLY informing their customers that firing a round through the adapter with an oil filter attached is a Felony. that is what I heard the guy say and the video he had playing on the table showed a couple of rednecks blasting away through 1 with a rifle.... hey the guy at the table said cheap suppressor and they are made to fire though, not I... but like I said, I went the other way when I saw it. I have too much invested in my legal cans  |
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