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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:24:28 PM EDT
[#1]
my Rep is Tim Jones,
I already know how he is leaning 
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Posted: 9/9/2014 4:30:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Done...
My Rep is a DEM that voted against it the first time around. I sent an email trying to sell him on the fact that the law already allows for the lawful carry of guns in schools and that SB656 would be a step up in safety because it would allow the governing body to require a much higher level of training. You have to use their irrational fear against them. My SEN is gtg. Eta: I got a response from the Dem. He is a no go... He says he doesn't have a problem with guns in schools, just the other stuff. 
Mr. cbr954,
This has never been about the provision to allow guns in schools. My opposition to this bill is the allowance of 19 years to conceal & the removal of local control for those communities that want to limit or restrict open carry. This started out as a good bill, which I fully supported, and then was amended with these two provisions. If the veto is sustained, I am certain it will be taken up early next session. Thanks for your thoughts. Keep in Touch. Sincerely, Representative Bill Otto District 70 |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 6:22:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Done...
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Posted: 9/9/2014 7:59:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Contacted my representative and senator last week. Both are Rs, and both are on-board.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 12:28:23 PM EDT
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I contact mine today (i forgot last night) hopfully not to late
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Posted: 9/10/2014 3:13:49 PM EDT
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This over ride lost by 3 votes last time. (I think there were 3 Republicans who either did not vote or who were not present).
Just called my Senator's office .... Rupp. He resigned a while back to undergo confirmation for another job while they were in session so his seat is vacant pending the November election. He would have been a vote in our favor. We will lose his vote. 
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:33:20 PM EDT
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It's on the senate floor right now......
Listen live at senate.mo.gov |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:41:54 PM EDT
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It's on the senate floor right now...... Listen live at senate.mo.gov cant lisen live work blocks the live feed lol keep us posted ! |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:15:18 PM EDT
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Fingers crossed and saying a prayer!!
Today is my birthday and this is the only thing I want! Well, this and a mini Uzi. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:22:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Updates?
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:34:11 PM EDT
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Updates? Democrats are running their mouths to stall. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:49:20 PM EDT
[#12]
It Passed! I think? 22 yes / 8 no
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:51:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks for the update- On to the house
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Posted: 9/10/2014 7:58:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Passed! 23-8. On to the House where it should pass with flying colors.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 9:31:35 PM EDT
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any update from the house?....EDIT...not able to stream right now and just hitting F5 when I can here for updates....
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Posted: 9/11/2014 12:25:09 AM EDT
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The House is still in session. SB656 has not been taken up as of 11:24PM.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 2:38:06 AM EDT
[#17]
It is on the floor of the House at 1:36AM Sept. 11.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 2:54:29 AM EDT
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It is on the floor of the House at 1:36AM Sept. 11. Thanks for keeping us updated D&H. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 2:54:47 AM EDT
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The veto is overridden.
Click here! http://www.senate.mo.gov/14info/BTS_Web/Actions.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=28098814 |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 3:02:21 AM EDT
[#20]
A hearty dose of Freedom, on this September 11th.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 3:03:54 AM EDT
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The veto is overridden.
Click here! http://www.senate.mo.gov/14info/BTS_Web/Actions.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=28098814 KA!!!! They are on 866 (this might be wrong) now here is link for those that want to listen http://streaming.house.mo.gov/chamber/ |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 3:08:32 AM EDT
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Don't forget to thank your representatives and senators who got this done. The roll call will be available tomorrow, but
in the Senate, SB656 needed all 23 Republicans to vote for it. They did. No dems voted in favor. in the House, SB656 passed with 117 votes. There were 110 Republicans. Assuming that all Republicans voted in favor, 7 dems crossed the aisle. Again, thank your representatives and senators who voted in favor. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 3:25:28 AM EDT
[#23]
So ... OC rally on the Plaza?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 3:44:37 AM EDT
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We looking at a 90 day wait, im guessing this is considered a special session?
Roll call on vote is available now: http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills141/rollcalls/072.074.pdf |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:30:43 AM EDT
[#25]
Hell yes!!!!!!!!!
Soooo ummm... Who is in charge of sending out notification letters to every LEO agency in the state to respectfully inform them not to draw on the people following the law? 
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:36:48 AM EDT
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Hell yes!!!!!!!!! Soooo ummm... Who is in charge of sending out notification letters to every LEO agency in the state to respectfully inform them not to draw on the people following the law? Shush, that's my early retirement plan! 
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:42:31 AM EDT
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Shush, that's my early retirement plan! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hell yes!!!!!!!!! Soooo ummm... Who is in charge of sending out notification letters to every LEO agency in the state to respectfully inform them not to draw on the people following the law? Shush, that's my early retirement plan! . Lmao....
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:47:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Is there a roll call for the Senate vote somewhere?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 10:13:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:07:11 AM EDT
[#31]
So it looks like Oct. 11th it is
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:09:44 AM EDT
[#32]
Will this keep officers from being able to disarm you during a traffic stop?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:36:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2014 12:33:08 PM EDT
[#34]
YES!
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Posted: 9/11/2014 2:41:21 PM EDT
[#35]
So teachers carrying stll needs to be approved by the admin correct?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 2:56:22 PM EDT
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Although 571.107 permits cities to ban CC in publicly owned buildings, I dont see what would allow a city to refuse entry to a govt building if you are OC. This strikes me as odd. Does anyone see the basis for refusing OC'ers to enter, e.g. city hall?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 5:57:38 PM EDT
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Will this keep officers from being able to disarm you during a traffic stop? You funny man, very funny man.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 5:57:59 PM EDT
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So teachers carrying stll needs to be approved by the admin correct? My understanding is yes. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:05:18 PM EDT
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so that means as of oct 11 or oct 12 no more NICs checks for CCW holders?
this could be bad for those of us that get delays i have passed on deals before since i didn't feel like the hassle of the delay. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:24:03 PM EDT
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so that means as of oct 11 or oct 12 no more NICs checks for CCW holders? this could be bad for those of us that get delays i have passed on deals before since i didn't feel like the hassle of the delay. I don't see anything in 656 about NICS. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:41:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Hum...i thought that was in this bill. i didn't see it either
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:52:43 PM EDT
[#42]
It was in SB745
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Posted: 9/11/2014 8:49:21 PM EDT
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so that means as of oct 11 or oct 12 no more NICs checks for CCW holders? this could be bad for those of us that get delays i have passed on deals before since i didn't feel like the hassle of the delay. Are you using your SSN? If so, that might be the problem...some felon could be using it as well. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 8:56:47 PM EDT
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Are you using your SSN? If so, that might be the problem...some felon could be using it as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so that means as of oct 11 or oct 12 no more NICs checks for CCW holders? this could be bad for those of us that get delays i have passed on deals before since i didn't feel like the hassle of the delay. Are you using your SSN? If so, that might be the problem...some felon could be using it as well. yep use ss#, every time, ccw holder, security clearance,c&r holder, ex regular ffl. it was funny when we had purchase permits i would show up with permit in hand and still get delayed. loved those days. now it is just a hand off. but a new ffl i went to last month did on line with no issues Makes no since to me or any of my ffl friends or regular friends. just makes me mad. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 8:57:35 PM EDT
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Didn't the second amendment protection act pass again and get veto'd again this year or am I still stuck in 2013?
I thought they were going to try to over ride a veto on that bill too. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 9:15:57 PM EDT
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and interestingly, does this now allow open-carry on areas described in Missouri Statute 571.107 ?
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000107.HTM For example, No concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, valid concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, or a concealed carry endorsement or permit issued by another state or political subdivision of another state shall authorize any person to carry concealed firearms into: (10) Any higher education institution or elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of the governing body of the higher education institution or a school official or the district school board. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises of any higher education institution or elementary or secondary school facility shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises; |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 9:28:59 PM EDT
[#47]
do I get the $35 if someone disarms me?
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:32:32 PM EDT
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Didn't the second amendment protection act pass again and get veto'd again this year or am I still stuck in 2013? I thought they were going to try to over ride a veto on that bill too. Wasn't that the amendment we voted on in August??? 
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Posted: 9/12/2014 7:34:34 AM EDT
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Wasn't that the amendment we voted on in August??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't the second amendment protection act pass again and get veto'd again this year or am I still stuck in 2013? I thought they were going to try to over ride a veto on that bill too. Wasn't that the amendment we voted on in August??? Yes, yes it was. |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 8:09:59 AM EDT
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so that means as of oct 11 or oct 12 no more NICs checks for CCW holders? this could be bad for those of us that get delays i have passed on deals before since i didn't feel like the hassle of the delay. I think this is the part causing confusion. Although the permit is 10 considered valid in the state, a person who fails to renew his or her 11 permit within five years from the date of issuance or renewal shall not 12 be eligible for an exception to a National Instant Criminal Background |
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